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Gov. Brown: Cap-and-trade could pay for high-speed rail
Orange County Register (CA) ^
| January 30, 2012
| by Ronald Campbell
Posted on 01/30/2012 1:38:27 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
These libs just never give up. This is insanity.
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posted on
01/30/2012 1:42:56 PM PST
by
Signalman
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Glad I am out of Kalifornia. This is a warning to those who propose “alternative” taxes such as VAT that you need to destroy the old system or the politicians will just see the new taxes as new money to burn.
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posted on
01/30/2012 1:44:37 PM PST
by
C19fan
To: Oldeconomybuyer
lol!
cap n trade is going to bankrupt the state and they think its a windfall!
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posted on
01/30/2012 1:46:55 PM PST
by
GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
To: C19fan
I believe the states are self-selecting into liberal and conservative enclaves. Not necessarily a bad thing.
The problem is I expect when Calif, Ill, and NY (and a few others) are struggling in bankruptcy, the FedGov will allow them to issue bonds guaranteed by ALL the taxpayers.
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posted on
01/30/2012 1:47:54 PM PST
by
nascarnation
(DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
To: nascarnation
Although the problem is the liberals who flee states like CA seem to not get it that it was their own policies that drove them out.
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posted on
01/30/2012 1:49:31 PM PST
by
C19fan
To: Oldeconomybuyer
MOONBEAM is a scramble for DUMB@$$....
Well... almost... (close enough)
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posted on
01/30/2012 1:52:33 PM PST
by
Wings-n-Wind
(The main things are the plain things!)
To: C19fan; GeronL
You don’t think it will stop at California, do you?
The libs around the world hold onto GW with a death grip because Cap and Trade means a fortune for them.
They will keep pushing that mess for years.
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posted on
01/30/2012 1:54:32 PM PST
by
Scanian
To: Oldeconomybuyer
What IS IT with these libs and high speed trains? No one (under democrats) has a job to "hurry" to, or even money to buy a ticket.
They're trying to ban cars, and suburbs...corral us all in cities and move us around like cattle...all in the name of the E N V I R O N M E N T.
OBAMALAND UBER ALLES....
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posted on
01/30/2012 1:55:37 PM PST
by
FrankR
(You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
To: FrankR
They're trying to ban cars, and suburbs...corral us all in cities and move us around like cattle...all in the name of the E N V I R O N M E N T. "My uncle has a country place
That no one knows about
They say it used to be a farm
Before the Motor Law"
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posted on
01/30/2012 2:00:18 PM PST
by
bassmaner
(Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Jerry Brown introduces the concept of the double whammy hyperspeed route to bankruptcy - a good dose of cap and trade laced with high speed rail Bottoms up to this bankruptcy cocktail.
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posted on
01/30/2012 2:09:34 PM PST
by
chuckee
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Jet airliners cause more harm to air quality than autos.
If Gov moonbeam agrees to shut down all the airports in CA and replace it with trains, he maybe he is on to something.
I am betting he wants it both ways.
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posted on
01/30/2012 2:12:18 PM PST
by
hadaclueonce
(scrap copper is more than $3.00 a pound. wind generators are full of copper)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
"cap-and-trade, which is this measure where you make people who produce greenhouse gases pay certain fees" Okay fellow Eldoradans, get ready to pay a "fee" every time you exhale.
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posted on
01/30/2012 2:13:54 PM PST
by
Argus
To: Oldeconomybuyer; steelyourfaith
According to a transcript of the interview in the Sacramento Bee, Brown said, Phase 1, Im trying to redesign it in a way that in and of itself will be justified by the state investment, Brown said. We do have other sources of money: For example, cap-and-trade, which is this measure where you make people who produce greenhouse gases pay certain fees that will be a source of funding going forward for the high speed rail.
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posted on
01/30/2012 2:17:14 PM PST
by
maggief
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Of course no one will mention the loss of efficiency in time for high speed rail when balanced against the necessity for early arrivals, subsequent mandatory machine and physical screening of passengers and carry-on luggage by the TSA, at checkpoints that will necessarily installed, before travelling. Hundreds, if not thousands more public gropers will be needed to insure the safety of the travelling public providing much needed union jobs. Mahvelous dahling. Just mahvelous!
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posted on
01/30/2012 2:20:09 PM PST
by
chulaivn66
("Liberals. We gotta have them around to provide entertainment. It's that old yin yang thingy again.")
To: Signalman
This is insanity.No, it is not. It is well thought-out, well-promoted, well-executed, and fits into the notion that a mobile, informed population is detrimental to the agenda.
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posted on
01/30/2012 2:25:07 PM PST
by
elkfersupper
( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
To: maggief; TenthAmendmentChampion; SolitaryMan; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; grey_whiskers; ...
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posted on
01/30/2012 2:25:45 PM PST
by
steelyourfaith
(If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
To: steelyourfaith
so ,did Gov moonbeam just admit that cap and trade is just another tax grab and nothing to do with the fake global warming
To: Oldeconomybuyer
“...this measure where you make people who produce greenhouse gases pay certain fees..”
Are the “people” who produce these gasses just doing it for fun? Of course they aren’t doing it to produce a product or service that most everyone will consume. Anyone in Cali who uses electricity, gas, gasoline, manufactured goods and whatnot is responsible for the production, as they are the consumers. They ought to ban the eating of beef to reduce the amount of Methane from cow farts and cow pies.
Politicians love to find those with the deep pockets and single them out, whereas it’s really all us dumb schmucks that end up paying for it.
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posted on
01/30/2012 2:39:52 PM PST
by
USMCPOP
(Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Of course. 38 million Californians get to pay even higher energy rates, so that a few million slackers can get from one liberal bastion to another. We inland dwellers understand the sacrifice we must make for our dear mother earth, who more and more is starting to seem like a kidnap victim held for ransom by criminals.
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posted on
01/30/2012 2:40:11 PM PST
by
giotto
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