Skip to comments.Stockholm 'upper-class safari' under fire
Posted on 01/30/2012 3:26:35 PM PST by WesternCulture
The so called upper class safari that has been recently running in Stockholm has come under extreme criticism from residents of the elite suburb, and has even evoked several protest attacks.
Everything for Everyone (Allt åt alla) is the organization behind the venture, which aims to give tourists a peek behind the curtains of the rich and famous living in glamorous parts of Stockholm.
The trip is a way of learning about Stockholms history and seeing what the segregation really looks like, said Shabane Barot, a spokesperson for the organization, to the Dagens Nyheter (DN) newspaper.
The tour has proved popular, and eager spectators have filled the 65 seats on the coach, which soon sold out since it was first advertised a few weeks ago.
The tour starts in central Stockholm, travels through Fisksätra, giving a glimpse into a "lower class" area of Stockholm, before heading in the direction of Solsidan, Saltsjöbaden, an upper class suburb of the capital.
Solsidan has shot to fame recently as the setting (and the name) of a popular sitcom, based on the lives of the upscale residents of the waterfront area.
Protests against the idea, however, have been strong, and the mayor of Nacka has referred to the tour as childish.
Some Solsidan residents have even shown their distaste by throwing eggs at the tour bus as it passes.
"It is sad that adults use their time and money to come out here and look," said one teenage resident to local paper Nacka Värmdö Posten (NVP).
"I don't understand what those communists are doing here. It is hardly our fault that they are poor," another said, eggs at the ready.
One angry resident filed a complaint to the police, citing intrusion of privacy.
The group behind the venture calls on prospective sightseers to develop their "hate" of the class system, which has in effect, led to Solsidan residents showing a hate of their own.
Though aware that the tour in itself is a provocation, and that their talk of "nurturing one's class hatred" also could induce bad feeling, Barot told DN she felt that the reaction was "unproportional".
We have unfortunately received racist, sexist and hateful comments from young people who live in the area. It is terrible to read what they write, but it also shows that it is important to raise this question, for their attitude comes from somewhere, Barot said to the paper.
On the companys website, a selection of the hateful comments that were posted on their facebook page has been published, which include threats, as well as racist slurs against minority groups.
Meanwhile, the mayor of the exclusive suburb, Erik Langby, is unimpressed with the tour.
To use a comedy series as a starting point for political activism is a little childish, but we do live in a free society, he told DN.
Similar trips have been arranged in Gothenburg and Malmö and have proved to be highly popular.
On the other hand, these tours obviously are arranged by young Marxist intellectuals who rebel against their upper class upbringing through selling tours to other confused leftists - mostly coming from the same kind of upper class/upper middle class environment they do.
Anyhow, some nice homes in Sweden's capital:
Those houses indeed are attractive, but they don't stand up well against these Swedish homes (mansions in the regions of Skåne/Scania, Södermanland and Uppland. Most of these magnificent buildings are privately owned, although a certain few of them are not):
Wish to explore what Swedish neighborhoods look like without supporting Socialism?
Try this link:
http://www.hitta.se/LargeMap.aspx?start (just click a city to explore it at “street level”).
Very cool interactive map.
Just finished the first and second Millenium novels, and one set of my greatgrandparents were from Sweden (near Karlstadt; near Lenhovda)
What would be lower class areas, a middle class areas, and an upper class areas in Sweden?
“The group behind the venture calls on prospective sightseers to develop their “hate” of the class system, which has in effect, led to Solsidan residents showing a hate of their own.”
There has to be a better way to push back on this B.S., aside from throwing eggs. I have no qualms about someone doing VERY well for themselves and their family if they have done so honesty, as most have. The fact that others have not done well is typically directly do to THEIR lack of effort or talent... If slackers are rewarded as well as the hard-workers, then what is the point of busting your butt? In my world, that IS the difference between Communisim and Capitalism.
A Swedish ghetto (Rosengård, Malmö, probably the poorest residential area in Scandinavia, the richest part of the World):
A typical day in Swedish suburbia:
Seriously speaking, middle class Swedes/Scandinavians live very much in the same way as middle class Americans, Germans, Canadians and Australians etc do. Of course there are differences, but in general, the links I’ve posted provides a good insight into how people live.
However, a difference between how Americans and inhabitants of the Nordic countries (especially Finns, Swedes and Norwegians) arrange their lives according to housing and lifestyle at large is that many of us spend more money on our summer houses and the things we do there than our homes in the city.
It’s typical for lower middle class Scandinavians to own/rent a rather small apartment in the city and own a nice summer house near the sea or a big lake and a nice boat on top of that.
In the Nordic countries, the poorest of people seldom live in decaying (detached) houses or trailer parks like they do in the US, instead they are often found in government apartments.
“I have no qualms about someone doing VERY well for themselves and their family if they have done so honesty, as most have”
- Good point.
Personally, I know some poor people as well as people who are well off.
I also know a great deal about their personal backgrounds.
Looking from that perspective, I wouldn’t exactly say poor people are more honest than those belonging to the upper class..
“In the Nordic countries, the poorest of people seldom live in decaying (detached) houses or trailer parks like they do in the US, instead they are often found in government apartments.”
Don’t feel left out we have government apartments also. They are called “Projects” or “Section 8”
“...which soon sold out...”
Huh - they make people PAY!?
“Dont feel left out we have government apartments also. They are called Projects or Section 8”.
- I’ve heard of these housing projects. The only part of America I’ve visited is Florida, but I’ve understood there are very depressing neighborhoods in the US just like there are in big European cities like Paris, Berlin and London.
Like a certain member of this forum said regarding a trip to Chicago: “mile after mile of tenants” (not wishing to insult the city of Chicago by that quote of course).
On the other hand, people who are (comparatively) poor in these cities live in paradise compared to people of today and throughout history that really could be considered as being ‘poor’.
Of course they do, Comrade! Envy, class hatred, anti-bourgeoisie slogan-chanting, threats to the Oppressor, and a tidy profit! What could be more traditional, eh, Comrade? Please to letting me know when these defenders of the proletariat are doing their initial public offering and I'll split a preferred share purchase with your collective. Death to Capitalism!
“Of course they do, Comrade! Envy, class hatred, anti-bourgeoisie slogan-chanting, threats to the Oppressor, and a tidy profit! What could be more traditional, eh, Comrade? Please to letting me know when these defenders of the proletariat are doing their initial public offering and I’ll split a preferred share purchase with your collective. Death to Capitalism!”
- I’m not rich, neither am I very poor - counting assets my parents and family own and I will inherit:), but actually, I’m considering doing this tour.
Today, Sweden is more Capitalist than 40 years ago. But the sweet memories from the sexual liberation of the 1960’s and 1970’s still lingers on..
Not that I trust Wikipedia for this type of thing, but people should also look up jantelagen to understand the norms at play. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jante_Law
They’d have tours of the Muslim enclaves but there
aren’t any Armored buses...
“I don’t think that Americans understand Swedish culture”
- No, an average American probably does not.
But given a year or so in Sweden, the average American would no more find Sweden such a strange place.
People over here are like they are most other places on Earth (except Canada) and once you get to know how the culture works, you’ll have no problem blending in.
“Theyd have tours of the Muslim enclaves but there
arent any Armored buses...”
- There are too many Muslims in Malmö.
They are aiming at you too.
In what way are you fighting them back?
“People over here are like they are most other places on Earth (except Canada)”
That’s because in Canada the Norwegian immigrants told us all about those snoose-gobbling Swedes!
“Thats because in Canada the Norwegian immigrants told us all about those snoose-gobbling Swedes!”
- Someone in Canada is upset over Swedish confidence.
We have beaten you by 9-0 in a major tournament.
Canada is a nation we truly respect, but just like the Soviet Union/Russia fell, you will fall.
Greetings from Sweden to another great ice hockey nation!