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California Issues Clown Car Mandate
IBD Editorials ^ | January 30, 2012

Posted on 01/30/2012 4:37:09 PM PST by Kaslin

Green Politics: Golden State regulators have passed sweeping emission standards requiring one in seven new cars sold in the state in 2025 be an electric or other zero-emission vehicle. What can go wrong?

Plenty, for if we've learned anything in recent years, it's that industrial policy and telling consumers what they need and must have vs. what they want and find useful doesn't work.

Only the marketplace can accurately pick winners and losers. The government, having no competition, usually picks losers.

We have also learned that climate change is an overhyped fantasy based on ideology rather than science.

Yet the fraudulent science behind it is used to distort the economy and misallocate resources toward green energy and green products that cannot compete on their own merits. Their use must be coerced, leading to industrial and economic stagnation.

Last Friday's decision by the California Air Resources Board combines the worst of both worlds. The policy adopted unanimously by CARB mandates a 75% reduction in smog-forming pollutants by 2025 and a 50% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions.

To achieve this goal, the new state policy mandates that a mix of 1.4 million zero-emission and plug-in hybrid vehicles be on the road by 2025, nearly triple the number being driven today. Problem is, this increases the cost of these vehicles and limits consumer choices to those they don't want to make.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab32; agw; carb; climatechange; clowncars; electriccars; globalwarming; ibd

1 posted on 01/30/2012 4:37:11 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

“Green”... the new Red makeover.


2 posted on 01/30/2012 4:57:17 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Kaslin

Assuming that natural demand for these cars doesn’t reach 14% of the market, then what will happen is that car makers will subsidize their sale - which they do now. So every non-zero emission car (which likely include natural gas and hybrids) will cost more that they should, to help increase the demand for electromagnetic fields.

I’m not sure exactly who they government will force this mandate on, though. Do car manufacturers have to ensure that 14% of their cars sold are zero emission? What if they don’t make zero emmission cars like Porsche or Ferrari? Or does each car dealer have to do it? And what happens if they can’t? Do they just lower the price on those cars until they create demand, no matter how punitive it may be?

I wonder if this kind of law is even constitutional. How can consumer demand be enforced? How can you force someone to sell something below cost?

And is it even wise? I am frankly afraid to drive around inside an electromagnetic field all day. Am I out of line to worry about that?


3 posted on 01/30/2012 4:57:34 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: Kaslin

4 posted on 01/30/2012 5:03:04 PM PST by snarkbait (<<For Rent>>)
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To: Kaslin
What can go wrong?

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5 posted on 01/30/2012 5:09:41 PM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: Kaslin

Those useless, unelected, politically appointed turds on CARB need to be tarred, feathered and run out of the state on the CA high speed rail boondoggle and then out of the country. I’m sure they’d feel right at home in China or North Korea.

But the electric car thing isn’t going to happen as easily as they imagine...especially since CA won’t “allow any dirty energy to be sold” in CA.

Once the electrical grid has reached max capacity, rolling brown outs are the norm.

Electric cars will only add to the mayhem created by the coming electricity shortages.


6 posted on 01/30/2012 5:12:23 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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Expose The Clowns In DC


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7 posted on 01/30/2012 5:17:18 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Kaslin

Liquified natural gas might have a ghost of a chance maybe, but that isn’t “zero emission.” Actually electric isn’t either, unless it all came from nukes and hydro (and then what about the poor three-eyed fishies?).

California/Fornicalia seems to be on a permanent supply of 4 way windowpane now. If nobody blinks, this will result in the withdrawal of all car sales from California, and oodles of them in border states.


8 posted on 01/30/2012 5:18:39 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: monkeyshine

Well let’s see. Obama will force coal, oil and nuclear to go out of business. The feds will force us to buy curly-fry lightbulbs and platinum medical insurance. The state of California will force us to buy electric cars that won’t have anywhere to plug in.

Canada’s starting to look really good to me.


9 posted on 01/30/2012 5:24:18 PM PST by Argus
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To: monkeyshine

I’d think the interior of an electric car to be fairly well shielded from the fields created by its internal motor/generators. It would end up wiping tapes and disk drives if it wasn’t.

It probably is not hazardous in that fashion. It just ain’t practical even with the best storage systems known to man (the lithium ion battery).

Of course California nuts and flakes want to drive prices all wild, and then try to contain the black/grey markets that result (like trying to nail Jello to a tree).


10 posted on 01/30/2012 5:24:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Argus

Even Ill-noise is a bastion of sanity compared to that.


11 posted on 01/30/2012 5:26:19 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Kaslin

I think this is Fabulous, everybody always looks at things like this as a pain in the ass and needless government intrusion into the Private Sector which will do nothing but make prices higher and higher while usefulness goes into the toilet. Well folks I think you are all WRONG and I believe WE THE PEOPLE should Wholeheartedly Embrace these whackjob, marxist, stupid plans. But Embrace them in a way these Marxist,Socialist,Stalinist Rat Basterd Pigs in Government will have a hard time arguing against. As Such I propose the following to be enacted by initiative.

All Public Servants and Public Employees SHALL be Guilty of a Class A Felony punishable by not less than 15 years in prison and 5 Million Dollars in Civil Fines if He or She is found to use any means of transportation to and from their workplace and their personal residence other than
Public Transportation, or
A Car or Vanpool with at least 6 passengers,
or any other means of transportation that does not require or consume any type of Fossil Fuel or in any way.

Embrace their Whacky Ideas in order to SAVE THE PLANET.


12 posted on 01/30/2012 5:27:48 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: lonevoice
Your question was "What could go wrong?

Not much -- the car in your picture is in PARK!!!

13 posted on 01/30/2012 5:35:18 PM PST by Freeper (Obama - Please STOP representing MY country!)
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To: snarkbait
Now that is a good looking car compared to this one


14 posted on 01/30/2012 5:46:43 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: SZonian
rolling brown outs

Baraq needs to tell his buddies at Google, Facebook, etc to put in some backup power for their server farms, otherwise they're going to be hurting bigtime.

15 posted on 01/30/2012 5:50:12 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Kaslin

Oh, this ought to be fun to watch!


16 posted on 01/30/2012 6:19:52 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Kaslin
requiring one in seven new cars sold in the state in 2025 be an electric or other zero-emission vehicle

This is obviously a dastardly trick by the Nevada and Oregon automobile dealers to take over the California Auto dealer business. Nothing to stop a Cali resident hopping over the state line registering in NV and then transferring registration to California.

17 posted on 01/30/2012 6:30:26 PM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Kaslin; All
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18 posted on 01/30/2012 7:46:23 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Stormdog

Greenies are like watermelons; green on the outside, red on the inside, and they’re the pits!


19 posted on 01/31/2012 2:20:18 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: monkeyshine
I am frankly afraid to drive around inside an electromagnetic field all day. Am I out of line to worry about that?

I don't think there's much to worry about. We're all immersed in electromagnetic fields constantly.

20 posted on 01/31/2012 3:45:24 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Kaslin

Gee, CARB—why not make it a 100% reduction in greenhouse gases, and that all cars get 150 mpg?

You know,stroke of the pen,the law of the land.

What could possibly go wrong?

Oh yeah, and why did you guys kill the EV-1? You know, the GM car that 15 years ago went farther than a Chevy Volt does nnow on an electric charge?


21 posted on 01/31/2012 4:06:56 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: sheik yerbouty

“Greenies are like watermelons; green on the outside, red on the inside, and they’re the pits!”

I like that!


22 posted on 01/31/2012 6:07:35 AM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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Climate fraud ping


23 posted on 01/31/2012 7:01:03 AM PST by raptor22 (Join me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: Timocrat
"Nothing to stop a Cali resident hopping over the state line registering in NV and then transferring registration to California."

There will be. Count on it. Coercion is the lifeblood of the left.

24 posted on 01/31/2012 7:15:49 AM PST by Truth29
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To: HiTech RedNeck
a permanent supply of 4 way windowpane

Been a long time, took me a minute to click there. ;)

25 posted on 01/31/2012 7:41:38 AM PST by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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Thanx for the ping raptor22 !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

26 posted on 01/31/2012 7:51:55 AM PST by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: Kaslin
Here is your zero emission vehicle.
 

27 posted on 01/31/2012 8:46:59 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SZonian
Those useless, unelected, politically appointed turds on CARB

There is the salient point of this whole discussion. UNELECTED, POLITICALLY APPOINTED, just like all of the "Czars" that Comrade nObama has been setting up on a federal scale. And, before people here start whining about how this is a "left-wing" conspiracy, check your history on how this organization came into being...

28 posted on 01/31/2012 8:58:00 AM PST by ssaftler
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To: monkeyshine

You’ve gotta keep the electromagnetic field inside the electric motor. Otherwise its efficiency would fall to nothing.


29 posted on 01/31/2012 9:00:47 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Stormdog

I refer to them as

Gang Green.


30 posted on 01/31/2012 9:10:54 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

“Gang Green.”

I’m telling you right up front, I’m going to use that!!


31 posted on 01/31/2012 9:21:10 AM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Stormdog

Feel free!

I want the “biggies” (Rush, Hannity, Beck, etc) to start using it!


32 posted on 01/31/2012 9:25:41 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
I refer to them as Gang Green.

Actual, unretouched photo of the folks who are pushing this regulation:


33 posted on 01/31/2012 10:38:36 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Never mind.)
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To: Stormdog

Many thanks!


34 posted on 02/01/2012 12:11:38 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Kaslin

Somebody say clown car?

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/00/00lclowns.phtml


35 posted on 02/01/2012 12:22:25 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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36 posted on 02/01/2012 8:27:31 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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