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GOP preparing for 1964-style ‘politicide’? (Internecine warring could hand the victory to Obama)
Washington Times ^ | 01/30/2012 | Terry Michael

Posted on 01/30/2012 5:34:32 PM PST by SeekAndFind

It’s seven months before their convention in Tampa, a lifetime in today’s five-minute-news-cycle politics. But the split decisions in the first three primaries and the personal attacks in the televised debates beg the question: Are Republicans divided into so many parts they are about to engage in 1964-style “politicide”? As a teenage Democratic political junkie, I watched TV with partisan glee as Goldwaterites booed Nelson Rockefeller at the Cow Palace in San Francisco in 1964.

That was two decades before Jeane J. Kirkpatrick labeled those who nominated Walter Mondale “the San Francisco Democrats,” a year when my party, obsessed with identity politics and disconnected from the middle-class center, suffered a defeat as bad as Barry Goldwater‘s.

It made little difference whom Republicans nominated in 1964. Their chances after John F. Kennedy’s assassination were slim. But this year offers an exceptionally good opportunity for Republicans. Thus, why would the party give even fleeting consideration to a grandiose K Street demagogue like Newt Gingrich or an electorally failed, culturally out-of-touch ex-senator like Rick Santorum?

That observation might be written off as the partisan rant of a former professional Democrat. (I was communications director for the convention of those 1984 San Francisco Democrats.) But, as a now-libertarian Democrat, I admit I might commit apostasy and - though not with enthusiasm - vote for a GOP candidate (Mitt Romney) for president if he served as a positive messenger to markets to stimulate jobs and growth.

Mr. Gingrich’s and Mr. Santorum’s liabilities aside, why would Republicans blow a chance to defeat President Obama? There are three reasons they might commit political suicide, and none is Mr. Romney’s deficiency as a candidate or the absence of some desired but unavailable GOP superstar.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1964; gop; obama

1 posted on 01/30/2012 5:34:38 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney is Obama


2 posted on 01/30/2012 5:36:18 PM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ras has rats up 1pct in the generic polling, first time in 2 and a half yrs


3 posted on 01/30/2012 5:38:57 PM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney can’t win the general because he loses the base. Newt can’t win the general because he loses the women vote and the so-called moderates.


4 posted on 01/30/2012 5:40:26 PM PST by 38special (It's a no-win situation.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s called a primary. You would think we’d never had one before.


5 posted on 01/30/2012 5:40:45 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SeekAndFind

I remember back in 2007 a very smart guy told me “there’s no way Americans are gonna elect a guy named Hussein as POTUS”.

And amazingly it looks like we’re going to do it twice, even after Baraq has totally failed at the economy which is usually THE predictor of elections.

Baraq’s going to retire in 2017 like an undefeated champion boxer who never fought anyone with a winning record.


6 posted on 01/30/2012 5:44:17 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why would anyone ever care about advice offered by a self-confessed member of the enemy camp?
7 posted on 01/30/2012 5:56:30 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Exactly! As if we needed to be reminded why we don’t like Romney, why would we want to nominate a guy that the author of this article, a Democrat, could see himself voting for? Even He pretty much is saying that Romney could have run as a Democrat!


8 posted on 01/30/2012 6:06:35 PM PST by winner3000 (ss)
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To: GeronL

Yes, it’s a primary.

But the level of internecine warfare going on here brings to mind what my parents told me about their experiences working on the Goldwater campaign. The “Rockefeller Republicans” were beside themselves that Goldwater *dared* to run for the office. As my parents described it, the “blue bloods thought it was *theirs* and theirs alone.”

What they told me about that campaign was coming back to me as I was listening to talk radio and some babbling heads this past weekend. This is a replay of ‘64, ‘76 and ‘80, when real conservatives were running.

If this goes on much longer, I think the GOP is done as a national party. A big plurality of the “base” will never trust the party hacks again, and the GOP will become a regional party of the northeast. The south and west will start down their own road, and we’ll have something similar to what they have in NY state - a “Republican” party and a “conservative” party that split the vote.


9 posted on 01/30/2012 6:06:59 PM PST by NVDave
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To: Nervous Tick

Exactly! As if we needed to be reminded why we don’t like Romney, why would we want to nominate a guy that the author of this article, a Democrat, could see himself voting for? Even He pretty much is saying that Romney could have run as a Democrat!


10 posted on 01/30/2012 6:06:59 PM PST by winner3000 (ss)
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To: Nervous Tick

Exactly! As if we needed to be reminded why we don’t like Romney, why would we want to nominate a guy that the author of this article, a Democrat, could see himself voting for? Even He pretty much is saying that Romney could have run as a Democrat!


11 posted on 01/30/2012 6:07:23 PM PST by winner3000 (ss)
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To: SeekAndFind
Mr. Gingrich’s and Mr. Santorum’s liabilities aside, why would Republicans blow a chance to defeat President Obama? There are three reasons they might commit political suicide, and none is Mr. Romney’s deficiency as a candidate or the absence of some desired but unavailable GOP superstar.

Terry Michaels is a liar!

It has everything to do with Mr. Romney's deficiencies, plural, as a candidate.
12 posted on 01/30/2012 6:07:23 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: 38special
Romney can’t win the general because he loses the base. Newt can’t win the general because he loses the women vote and the so-called moderates.

Tell that to the women in South Carolina who went overwhelmingly for Newt.
13 posted on 01/30/2012 6:09:36 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: winner3000

I believe Romney IS running as a Democrat, only he claims to be Republican.


14 posted on 01/30/2012 6:10:29 PM PST by Venturer
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s right. It’ll be just like 2008 when all the battling between Obama and Clinton lead to the election of McCain. /sarc


15 posted on 01/30/2012 6:11:56 PM PST by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: Nervous Tick

People need to ask themselves. Why are the alphabet networks, establishment/leftist newspapers and leftists in general pushing Romney? The answer is that he has no hope of beating their man Obama. There is no daylight between Romney and Obama. How is Romney going to defeat Obama? By sliming him the way he has slimed conservatives? Impossible. The MSM will savagely turn on him should he get the nomination, and his attacks will fail.


16 posted on 01/30/2012 6:25:10 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: SeekAndFind
The author declares himself a "libertarian Democrat" (whatever that means) who just might vote for Romney. He might as well have stopped writing at that point - yes, that is the problem conservatives have with the guy.

As political analysis, however, his diagnosis borders on satire.

There are three reasons they might commit political suicide, and none is Mr. Romney’s deficiency as a candidate or the absence of some desired but unavailable GOP superstar.

The latter is particularly humorous, a rhetorical backflip to avoid invoking the dread name of Sarah Palin. If she's that irrelevant, why are they so afraid of her?

It boils down to this: the last year in American politics has been one gigantic puppet show put on to marginalize the truly populist anger that was displayed at the Tea Parties. It, and not the achingly phony OWS, is a true measure of dissatisfaction and it scares hell out of every establishment politician of either party. As it should. And so we have on the one hand the prancing idiots of Occupy My Mom's Basement and on the other the smooth cadences of Mitt Romney - that's your political continuum, folks, that or something in between but nothing outside it. That's what the puppet show has been all about.

And what's why Romney's candidacy is so vital to political lightweights such as Terry Michael and such party heavyweights as have already signed on to the Romney campaign. It frames the debate into territory in which they can only win. They won't come out, we have to come in. They're holding the country hostage, and our love of it will, they believe, force us to play the game. Hence the threats - this article is one - that this will turn into another Goldwater blowout if we don't play along. I'm not buying it.

17 posted on 01/30/2012 6:38:01 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, Barack Obama is no JFK....


18 posted on 01/30/2012 7:46:55 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: SeekAndFind
Let there be no doubt that there is a war in the Republican Party.

And, we'll either win it, or we'll find a new party.

It's OUR choice, not theirs.

A 3rd party will win in the USA before I'm off the planet.

19 posted on 01/30/2012 8:10:35 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SeekAndFind

We can trace the origins back to the leftist Romney and his decision to launch personal attacks FIRST against Newt in Iowa:

The line of attack worked wonders in Iowa to reverse Mr. Gingrich’s ...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/worldview/mitt-romneys-counterattack-5-things-to-watch-in-the-gop-race/article2311619/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS%2FAtom&utm_source=Home&utm_content=2311619

In Iowa, Mitt Romney’s super PAC spent millions attacking Gingrich. Now the Gingrich Super PAC is fighting back...

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3405586.htm


20 posted on 01/30/2012 8:33:09 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: SeekAndFind
In ‘64 Rockefeller did not endorse Goldwater after the convention and Goldwater got walloped by the crooked chestier LBJ.

In 1976 Jerry Ford and Ronald Reagan battled it out right up to the convention. When Ford pulled it out, Reagan backed him Ford overcame a 30 point deficit and nearly won the election that did not favor him.

In 2012 if Gingrich gets the nod, will Willard Romney back him? I doubt it.

21 posted on 01/30/2012 9:28:37 PM PST by GR_Jr. (ABR / AB0 (Anybody but Romney, and then Anybody but 0bama))
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To: tcrlaf

RE: Sorry, Barack Obama is no JFK....

JFK was already dead in 1964. The question is — is Obama another LBJ?


22 posted on 01/31/2012 4:37:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: GR_Jr.
-- In 2012 if Gingrich gets the nod, will Willard Romney back him? I doubt it. --

Not only will Romney not support a conservative, neither will the GOP. The GOP is not a conservative party.

23 posted on 01/31/2012 4:59:44 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: SeekAndFind

Well I for one was going to support the most conservative Republican candidate. But gee, I guess if all those liberals are going to vote with Romney I’ll just throw my convictions out the window and support a sure winner. How can this guy be wrong, look at his past choices in Mondale. Besides with the recovery going so well we will need a strong candidate to beat Obama.


24 posted on 01/31/2012 5:58:09 AM PST by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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