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Is the Tea Party Losing Its Grip on the GOP?
Real Clear Politics ^ | January 30, 2012 | Erin McPike

Posted on 01/30/2012 6:38:36 PM PST by neverdem

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Newt Gingrich's fast Florida fade is the latest indication that the Tea Party is losing its grip on the GOP, with the establishment poised to triumph once again.

An official endorsement Saturday night from last year's Tea Party standout, Herman Cain; an all-but-official backing from longtime Tea Party darling Sarah Palin; and the support of an increasing number of Tea Party officials around the country have not lifted Gingrich back over Mitt Romney in the Florida polls. That weakened clout has been accompanied by the Republican establishment's full-throttle charge at Gingrich's past -- to great effect with the primary here just one day away.

It’s a stunning twist of fate for the GOP, which just 18 months ago was mired in intraparty battles that gave rise to the grass-roots movement, and which had been desperately seeking anyone but Mitt Romney in the presidential race to satisfy its hard-right turn. Still, if Romney wins here on Tuesday and goes on to clinch the nomination in the coming weeks or months, it may not settle the question of whether he has quieted the Tea Party faithful heading toward the general election.

Its various favorites have failed to take hold. Michele Bachmann was ultimately not seen as credible, Cain was forced out of the race over charges of sexual harassment, and Rick Perry couldn’t pass muster through the debates.

Though Gingrich has embraced the Tea Party -- and many of its leaders have hugged him back -- he doesn’t fit the movement’s mold. The Romney campaign knows this and has had no qualms about highlighting that fact.

From former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole, the GOP presidential nominee in 1996, to Sen. John McCain, the standard bearer in 2008, a growing number of Republican “insiders” have blasted...

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KEYWORDS: teaparty; teapartyexpress; teapartymovement; teapartyrebellion
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1 posted on 01/30/2012 6:38:43 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

No. The GOP-e is shooting its self in the head!!

We are the resistance!!

Rebellion is ON!!

Join, or die!!


2 posted on 01/30/2012 6:42:12 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: neverdem

Last poll I seen had Newt down by less than 5. They had Newt up 6 in SC and he won by 14. What are they talking about?

Do they realize if they set Romney up for a double digit win and it’s 5 points or less that’s going to stop Romney’s train cold?


3 posted on 01/30/2012 6:42:21 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: neverdem

They wish LOL.


4 posted on 01/30/2012 6:43:33 PM PST by wombtotomb
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To: Jim Robinson

What they don’t understand is that the Tea Party is just
beginning to get a grip on the GOP, it’s a matter of
demographics, the more young Tea party reps we put in
place the sooner they will be the majority of the party.

That day IS coming.


5 posted on 01/30/2012 6:46:42 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: neverdem

They’d better hope not. Without the tea party the GOP would be smaller then the Green Party.


6 posted on 01/30/2012 6:46:45 PM PST by McGavin999 ("If you'll have my back when I go to Washington, I'll have yours" Rick Perry 2012)
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To: McGavin999

Without the Tea Party the GOP would certainly be
less relevant than the Greens.


7 posted on 01/30/2012 6:48:33 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: neverdem

Pffft. An article destined for the Drudge Report!


8 posted on 01/30/2012 6:49:20 PM PST by GVnana (Newt 2012 - He Speaks for Us)
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To: neverdem

LOL!

I think it’s the other way around.


9 posted on 01/30/2012 6:51:11 PM PST by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common- Voltaire)
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To: neverdem

tea party vs GOP-E

http://youtu.be/P9jHa-y24hM


10 posted on 01/30/2012 6:53:08 PM PST by swamprebel (Where liberty dwells, there is my country.)
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To: neverdem

Ode to the Grand Olde Party, and their BFF, the Obamanator.

When Newt or Paul rocks the Establishment Boat,
The GOP oarsmen pull knives from their boots.
The hacking and slashing puts extreme fighting to shame,
Never, no NEVER rock the Establishment Boat!
They cannot win elections, by choice of their suits,
A RINO Nominee is a Democrat, - - - - one and the same.

Two Party as One Party is what they adore.
Never give voters a choice, or politicians
Are out of life-time jobs, forever more.

As we pay our bills,
And hold our noses
As we vote,
The Obamanator holds
His cold, steel knife
To America’s throat - - - - .


11 posted on 01/30/2012 6:53:13 PM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: neverdem

The tea party is dead.

It was a once in a lifetime phenomenon, and it served its purpose in 2010, but, it’s disorganized and leaderless and basically useless.

At a time when it’s needed to the most, it’s nowhere to be found.


12 posted on 01/30/2012 6:53:13 PM PST by adorno
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To: neverdem

Got a feeling Erin McPike who wrote this article is not a Tea Party person. Probably hates those of us who are. The whole article sounds like only wishful thinking. Who ever she is, she’s not on our side.....she should be ignored.


13 posted on 01/30/2012 6:53:43 PM PST by Cindy of Nashville (What has the Democrat party become???)
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To: GVnana

IT IS ABOUT ESTABLISHMENT MONEY, NOTHING TO DO WITH
THE TEA PARTY!!!!!!!! I HATE THESE PEOPLE!!!!!!


14 posted on 01/30/2012 6:53:56 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: neverdem

They would prefer just to take our vote for granted but if we push them they’ll label us bat shit crazy and kick us out (if they can).


15 posted on 01/30/2012 6:53:56 PM PST by DManA
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To: neverdem

No, the GOP is losing it’s grip on the TEA Party.


16 posted on 01/30/2012 6:55:30 PM PST by stilloftyhenight (99 weeks = associates degree)
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To: neverdem

The GOP took the Tea Party for granted. They assumed that we would fall for the cliche of it being acceptable to be the lesser of two evils. Well, the GOP can go to hell - We’re taking over or leaving. There is no in between, there is no common ground to be found on diametrically opposed philosophies. Join us, or we’ll make you look like the fools you have been. The line in the sand has been drawn!


17 posted on 01/30/2012 6:55:33 PM PST by RobertClark ("Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: neverdem

If Newt is denied the nomination by the establishment, and they force Mittens on us, Newt should run as the Tea Party candidate third party.

What is there to lose? There is virtually no difference in the policies of Mittens or Obozo.

What is required to get on the ballot nationwide for a third party candidate?


18 posted on 01/30/2012 6:57:04 PM PST by datura (R.I.P. GOP - Time For Some TEA!)
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To: neverdem

For their sake, the GOP better hope that they don’t lose their grip on the TEA Party. Without they TEA Party, the GOP is toast.


19 posted on 01/30/2012 6:58:26 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! Your President's DOJ is taking the Fifth Amendment! How do you feel about that?)
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To: adorno

Tea Party never had or was supposed to have a “leader”.

It’s an ideal.


20 posted on 01/30/2012 6:58:44 PM PST by wolficatZ (:"TV is king, you're my everything..")
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To: adorno
>"At a time when it’s needed to the most, it’s nowhere to be found."

Spoken like a cheese eating surrender monkey.

21 posted on 01/30/2012 6:59:22 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: adorno
The tea party is dead.

It was a once in a lifetime phenomenon, and it served its purpose in 2010, but, it’s disorganized and leaderless and basically useless.

At a time when it’s needed to the most, it’s nowhere to be found.

Harry Reid, is that you?

We meet twice a month here, and conference with 41 other groups in our state alone. Just because you aren't involved, it doesn't make it dead.

22 posted on 01/30/2012 6:59:23 PM PST by RobertClark ("Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Jim Robinson
relax on the worry...but don't stop on the wrath!...if we keep it up....Newt by 4 in Fla....u heard it here 1st! (the “unexpected surge thingy”...polls will get close in the end!!)...Having said that...... we still gotta conserve bullets for the war.....We ain't done yet!!!
23 posted on 01/30/2012 6:59:48 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: adorno
At a time when it’s needed to the most, it’s nowhere to be found.

Oh, you're mistaken, my FRiend. It's right here.

This does bear out what I've suggested in another thread. The entire last year of American politics has been nothing more than a crude puppet show with OWS on the one hand and Romney on the other - we have to fall in between, and the Tea Party falls outside. The difficulty with this is that declaring a political movement dead doesn't make it so. It isn't working, and it isn't going to.

24 posted on 01/30/2012 7:00:49 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Jim Robinson

The GOP in it’s war on TEA had better wake up, in their efforts to destroy us, their are causing us to flip them the bird and walk out the door.
I have tolerated Bush, Dole, another Bush, and McCain. It has been 24 years that the GOP E has had it’s way. It’s our turn to drive.
If they succeed in their conspiracy to annoint Romney, they are going to do it without me. Im sick of their cynical “you HAVE to vote for us” mentality.


25 posted on 01/30/2012 7:02:56 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: adorno
At a time when it’s needed to the most, it’s nowhere to be found

The Tea Party is us

26 posted on 01/30/2012 7:06:28 PM PST by tsowellfan (If its between Obama and Romney, there isnt all that much difference - George Soros)
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To: neverdem

GOP to the Tea Party “ you f-cked, you trusted us”


27 posted on 01/30/2012 7:06:58 PM PST by PMAS (Romney = Democrat tested, Soros approved)
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To: neverdem
The strength of the Tea Party has always been questionable to me. The losses in NY-23, and Senate seats in CT, and NV show they can spoil some safe statewide and district GOP seats, but are often impotent when it comes to winning in general elections. The Tea Party showed its impotence early on by claiming credit for wins by moderates Scott Brown and Chris Cristie in 2007 and then acting surprised when they turned out to be moderates. Now the Tea Party can't pick a winner for Prez. Color me shocked.
28 posted on 01/30/2012 7:09:16 PM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican for Palin)
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To: neverdem

GOP E is like a bad husband, always belittling and berating a wife who voices legitimate complaints. He keeps telling her she can never survive without him, she has to stay, shes stupid, etc etc,,,,

Sometimes such people eventually find the strength to walk out the door.


29 posted on 01/30/2012 7:10:47 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: neverdem

The TEA party is beneath the established republicans contempt. We are considered nothing more than a nuisance and obstacle to the goals of the GOP. Time to quit being useful idiots to the GOP, un-hitch our horse from this bunch, and form a party that has America’s best interests in mind.


30 posted on 01/30/2012 7:14:22 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Once-Ler

Most TEA elections have had the GOP actually working AGAINST TEA repubs. Murkowski, Crist, Angle, O’Donnell,, etc.
TEA would have been FAR more succeessful had the GOP worked as hard for their success as they did against them. Of course, that would require the GOP to believe in TEA goals.


31 posted on 01/30/2012 7:15:09 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: neverdem

The TEA party never had a ‘grip’ on the GOP.... that is the whole point it existed!


32 posted on 01/30/2012 7:17:44 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Bump to that, rawcat...


33 posted on 01/30/2012 7:17:48 PM PST by gibsosa
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To: DesertRhino

Even if you are correct, so what? Impotence is impotence. Do you think the “establishment” is going to give up power? What kind of war were you expecting?


34 posted on 01/30/2012 7:20:07 PM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican for Palin)
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To: factoryrat

When the first TEA events started, i thought it would be the worst mistake ever to become an actual “party”. But that was because i was CERTAIN that republican party would have a home for these ideals.

Instead they have waged all out relentless war on TEA. I agree it’s almost time to bolt. We will know very soon.


35 posted on 01/30/2012 7:20:28 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: RobertClark; Billthedrill

You guys might still be active and holding your own meetings, but the bigger tea party movement, with the large protests and the in-your-face confrontations against the democrats and against the RINOs in the republican party, are no longer there to get the message heard, loud and far. Quietly organizing is not as effective as getting the big crowds organized and notice and broadcast.

I’m planning to vote for Gingrich. However, things look dismal in Florida if Romney wins the primary here. If we had been as organized and effective as we were in 2009/2010, Romney would not even be running for the nomination of the GOP.

So, you guys can be dismissive of my remarks all you want, but I’m calling it as I see it, and I’m pretty sure that there are millions other feeling the same as me.


36 posted on 01/30/2012 7:21:11 PM PST by adorno
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To: datura

If Newt is denied the nomination by the establishment, and they force Mittens on us,

Nobody can force anybody on us. If the tea partiers would all vote for Newt than he will win. If the Tea Partiers vote for Romney then they aren’t much of a tea partier. Everyone has a vote nobody votes with a gun to their head. Tea party is 40 percent of the Republican party or more so there is no forcing Romney on us. It is the Tea Partiers who are not voting for Newt.


37 posted on 01/30/2012 7:23:44 PM PST by napscoordinator (Go Newt! Go Patriots (America's Team)! America's is going the right direction in 2012!!!)
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To: tsowellfan
The Tea Party is us

Good for you and the "us", but, that won't be enough.
38 posted on 01/30/2012 7:25:14 PM PST by adorno
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To: Once-Ler

You are mistaken. If we are so impotent,,, lets see them win election without us.
The Romney plan is to abuse us beyond belief in the primaries, throw us a bone in the worthless Veep job slot, and then say, “whatcha gonna do”.

But if we were really so impotent,, they wouldn’t need us in november, would they? Our potency will be to see Romney lose. It appears to be the punch in the nose the establishment needs.


39 posted on 01/30/2012 7:26:00 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Jim Robinson

I said it before, left-right, here we are stuck in the middle. The RNC and the DNC are deathly afraid of a third party forming to counteract their stranglehold on the federal government. The powers to be be will fight tooth and nail to prevent a third party from usurping their power. Unfortunately for them, there are too many Americans stuck with having to live through their poor policies and decisions. A third party based on sound Constitutional principles is the only way out of the mess that the feds have dragged us into.


40 posted on 01/30/2012 7:27:58 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: adorno

I don’t dismiss your remarks at all. Nor will I condescend to welcoming you back to a fight you never left. Just watch and see what happens. Just watch.


41 posted on 01/30/2012 7:28:23 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: adorno

“but, that won’t be enough.”

You mean like how the GOP cannot win without us? Sorry, the threat that Obama is worse leaves me unmoved. Id rather save 2016 for another try than to vote Romney.


42 posted on 01/30/2012 7:31:36 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: napscoordinator
The Tea Party was going to TAKE OVER the GOP!!! They are the RESISTANCE!!!...but since the “Establishment” won't roll over and play dead...now a bunch of of them are going to take their ball and go home. I guess they GOP will have to move further left to capture a majority...cause if they don't win then the rats get to spend our taxes.

People with power don't threaten to do anything.

43 posted on 01/30/2012 7:32:37 PM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican for Palin)
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To: factoryrat

I am on board with any emerging Party that challenges the elites and seeks to restore the Constitutional Republic.


44 posted on 01/30/2012 7:34:37 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: DesertRhino
But if we were really so impotent,, they wouldn’t need us in november, would they? Our potency will be to see Romney lose. It appears to be the punch in the nose the establishment needs.

To you reelecting Obama is power. lol.

rat...It's the new conservatism.

45 posted on 01/30/2012 7:36:00 PM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican for Palin)
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To: neverdem
Is the Tea Party Losing Its Grip on the GOP?

A better question is "Is the GOP losing the support of the Tea Party?"

We have the power to make the GOP sink or swim. If they don't believe us, look at what happened to the Democrats last election. I'm ready to sink the GOP if they run Romney. Dead! Dead! Dead!

46 posted on 01/30/2012 7:38:43 PM PST by upsdriver (We Tea Partiers need Sarah Palin for president.)
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To: Once-Ler

“I guess they GOP will have to move further left to capture a majority”

If you are in that mindset, You would vote for Obama, the GOP would have nothing to offer you. The GOP HAS no room to move left. What will they be, a low rent version of the dems? If you liked that position, there would be little to dislike about Obama.

And while nobody expected them to roll over, it is just as unreasonable that they think they can ignore every single thing we stand for, yet still expect our vote as their birthright.

You are correct, people with power don’t make threats. They stay home in November or write in. The GOP needs a lesson in power.


47 posted on 01/30/2012 7:40:04 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: adorno

What should it be doing right now that is not happening? Is there an unknown candidate that everyone should be rallying around? We have two remaining conservative candidates, both with positives and negatives, a weirdo libertarian and a liberal democrat with the full force of the party establishment. I am not sure what shuld happening that is not. Some are buying Romney as an ABO candidate, others championng newt, and others Santorum and Paul. There is no unifying candidate, unfortunately.


48 posted on 01/30/2012 7:40:46 PM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: adorno

You give up too easily.


49 posted on 01/30/2012 7:42:20 PM PST by upsdriver (We Tea Partiers need Sarah Palin for president.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The GOP has lost it’s grip on the Tea Party, is more like it.

The Rattlesnake is coiled and ready to strike.

The 2 parties don’t quite get that we consider ourselves backed into a corner with time running out...

It doesn’t matter how many or few we are, it’s a matter of resolve.


50 posted on 01/30/2012 7:42:28 PM PST by One Name
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