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CAIR pressures retired general, critic of Islam, to back out of West Point event
The Daily Caller ^ | 31 Jan 2012 | Caroline May

Posted on 01/31/2012 7:10:44 AM PST by mandaladon

The Council on American-Islamic Relations announced Monday night that it had successfully prevented retired Lieutenant General William G. “Jerry” Boykin from speaking at an upcoming prayer breakfast at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.

“We welcome Mr. Boykin’s withdrawal from this event and hope that the speaker who replaces him will offer cadets a spiritual message that promotes tolerance and mutual understanding,” said CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad in a statement.

West Point initially balked at the calls to remove Boykin — a former military intelligence officer — from the event.

Lt. Col. Sherri Reed of West Point told The Associated Press that cadets are “purposefully exposed to different perspectives and cultures.”

“The National Prayer Breakfast Service will be pluralistic with Christians, Jewish, and Muslim cadets participating,” Reed said. “We are comfortable and confident that what retired Lt. Gen. Boykin will share about prayer, soldier care and selfless service, will be in keeping with the broad range of ideas normally considered by our cadets.”

Boykin backed out of the event on his own volition, according to a report from Fox News.

The retired lieutenant general has been on CAIR’s radar for casting Islam in a poor light, specifically in speeches in which he analogizing the War on Terror to a war against Satan.

CAIR and the group VoteVets.org pushed hard for a retraction of Boykin’s invitation to the event due to his “Islamophobic” views.

CAIR and People For the American Way failed to stop a speech Boykin gave in Ocean City, Md., last week. This week it seems they have been successful.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: boykin; cair; crushislam; islam; islamofascism; islamophobia; kalbislam; obama; waronterror; westpoint
The bad guys win another one.
1 posted on 01/31/2012 7:10:46 AM PST by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

The darkness is everywhere, like tendrils of poison coiling in each corner.


2 posted on 01/31/2012 7:17:41 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: mandaladon

You don’t know that yet. What happens when the Christian cadets choose to not attend? I’m sure it isn’t a mandatory event.


3 posted on 01/31/2012 7:18:57 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: mandaladon

I wonder what that “voluntary” withdrawal involved? Threats against the General, his family, financial reprisal, etc?


4 posted on 01/31/2012 7:19:32 AM PST by Truth29
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To: mandaladon

All your gods are belong to us.


5 posted on 01/31/2012 7:20:04 AM PST by moovova ("Obama Bulbs" - That's what I call the new CFL light bulbs...because they're not too bright.)
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To: USNBandit; All
"What happens when the Christian cadets choose to not attend? I’m sure it isn’t a mandatory event."

If West Point is like any other military school, pressure will be applied to ensure a "satisfactory" attendance. Theoretically, you are correct, of course. When reality steps in, theoretical goes down the drain when the military is involved.

6 posted on 01/31/2012 7:22:50 AM PST by davisfh
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To: mandaladon
PC wins again. To avoid the blot of seeming to be bigots, the leaders of West Point became bigots .

When is it going to be forcefully brought home to PC people that giving in to Muzzie demands is being against and infringing upon the rights of Christians?

These people are enemies of our country in that they put their religion above the law.

vaudine

7 posted on 01/31/2012 7:39:57 AM PST by vaudine
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To: mandaladon

These guys would like to see the Ft Hood assassin as the speaker.


8 posted on 01/31/2012 7:40:42 AM PST by Harley (Will Rogers never met Harry Reid.)
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To: USNBandit
Believe me....it is a mandatory formation.
9 posted on 01/31/2012 7:41:41 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: mandaladon
Gee, what a cheesed!ck noload spineless general, (here is a thought, when you retired did your balls fall off, or did you ever have any?)

Since when has anyone done anything that doesn't offend these idiots

10 posted on 01/31/2012 7:43:32 AM PST by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons!)
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To: mosaicwolf

West Point may be different, but prayer breakfasts were never mandatory at USNA.

Go Navy, Beat Army USNA ‘89


11 posted on 01/31/2012 7:49:50 AM PST by reed13k (Knight Rampant Bibliophile, Protector of Knowledge, Purveyor of Inquiry, Defender of Aged Wisdom, an)
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To: mandaladon

In the old America, a retired general would’ve told those filthy knuckledraggers to piss off, because he’s going to be there, chest out, standing tall.

In New America, it’s fashionable to cower at the first sign of pressure from that most protected “victim” group... muslims.


12 posted on 01/31/2012 7:58:16 AM PST by ScottinVA (Liberal logic: 0bamacare mandate is acceptable... but voter IDs are unconstitutional.Oh, let me gues)
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To: mandaladon; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; ...
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13 posted on 01/31/2012 8:03:05 AM PST by LucyT ( NB. ~ Pakistan was NOT on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981. ~)
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To: AD from SpringBay

I’m surprised that there are Muslim cadets because that is more than a faith religion. It is/includes a promoting of government outside the bounds and foundation of our Constitution. I believe this shows how much of our Nation’s heritage has been bought by oil money.It is difficult for me to imagine a Muslim holding to an oath seemingly dedicated to the spirit of our Constitution.


14 posted on 01/31/2012 8:03:23 AM PST by noinfringers2
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To: mandaladon

CiE: The creeping islamization of everything.


15 posted on 01/31/2012 8:03:35 AM PST by onedoug
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To: SERE_DOC
spineless general, (here is a thought, when you retired did your balls fall off...(?)

Anyone familiar with his military background knows he is not spineless. It is no doubt someone else's balls he is worried about, someone he cannot protect 24/7.

16 posted on 01/31/2012 8:07:42 AM PST by frog in a pot
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To: mandaladon
I'd take one General Boykin over ten thousand Mohammad leg-humping cultists.
17 posted on 01/31/2012 8:08:09 AM PST by Niteranger68 (When voting, if you are not willing to work in the kitchen, order from the menu.)
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To: Truth29

Agree


18 posted on 01/31/2012 8:20:40 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: SERE_DOC

Perhaps you ought to re-think your opinion on Gen. Boykins’ background and courage.

From 1978-1993 Boykin was assigned in various capacities to Delta Force. By 1980 he was the Delta Force operations officer on the April 24–25 Iranian hostage rescue attempt.

In October 1983, Maj. Boykin worked as an operations officer during Operation Urgent Fury in Grenada. During a dawn assault to free some Grenada government officials held by the Marxist People’s Revolutionary Army, Boykin was shot in the arm with a .50 caliber round, splitting the bone completely in two. He was told he would never use it again, but his arm healed, which Boykin again believed God was responsible for[citation needed].

In 1989, Boykin was in Panama as part of the mission to apprehend Manuel Noriega.[1]

From 1990 to 1991 he was at the Army War College. In 1992 and early 1993, as a colonel, Boykin was in Colombia leading a mission to hunt for drug lord Pablo Escobar.

In October 1993, Colonel Boykin was in command of the Delta Force tracking down militia leader Mohamed Farrah Aidid in Somalia,

Boykin served the CIA as Deputy Director of Special Activities. He was later made Deputy Director for Operations, Readiness, and Mobilization when assigned to the Army Staff.[2]

From April 1998 to February 2000, he served as the Commanding General, U.S. Army Special Forces Command (Airborne) at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. From March 2000-2003, he was the Commanding General, United States Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center, Fort Bragg, N.C. In June 2003, he was appointed Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence under Dr. Stephen Cambone, Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence.

LTG Boykin retired on August 1, 2007 and currently teaches at Hampden-Sydney College.

Boykin went to Armed Forces Staff College, Army War College, and Shippensburg University (where he received a Masters Degree). His badges include the Master Parachutist Badge, Military Freefall Badge, Ranger Tab and Special Forces Tab. Medals and awards include: “the Distinguished Service Medal, Defense Superior Service Medal (with 3 Oak Leaf Clusters), Legion of Merit (with Oak Leaf Cluster), Bronze Star, Air Medal and the Purple Heart (with Oak Leaf Cluster).


19 posted on 01/31/2012 8:22:08 AM PST by miele man
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To: mosaicwolf
When I went to Annapolis those things weren't mandatory, so it was pretty easy for Midshipmen to vote with their feet.

We did have lecture series that could be brutally boring that was mandatory. One year they paid an honorarium to Carl Sagan so he could get up in front of the Brigade and tell us we should slash defense unilaterally.

20 posted on 01/31/2012 8:31:11 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: mandaladon

Maybe it’s just a coincidence, but the USA hasn’t won a war since WWII, and back then it was a military made up of White Christian men run by White Christian men.


21 posted on 01/31/2012 8:46:48 AM PST by kreitzer
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To: miele man

Perhaps not


22 posted on 01/31/2012 9:01:35 AM PST by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons!)
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To: mandaladon

Why is CAIR dictating what West Point does? Are they all not a bunch of illegal thugs?


23 posted on 01/31/2012 9:07:43 AM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: mandaladon

My snail mail in in the mail the Point will claim that Gen.Boykin backed out on his own. An Officer and a Gentleman (a Christian Patriot_ will always so do. But the enemy has not won one. I recall reading somewhere the advice “if they persecute you in one city shake the very dust from your shoes and flee to the next. Now is the time for Christians in America to to remember the doctrines of Jesus Christ-and guns up and eyes open cause they’s indians about.


24 posted on 01/31/2012 9:08:34 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: frog in a pot
"Anyone familiar with his military background"

I do not have 30+ years in the mil.... but I do have 20 (and retired) You like I can have our opinions. my opinion is stated. When Americans (especially retired mil) bend over for political expediency it denigrates the whole shooting match.

And explain to me why someone of his stature and service is so concerned with the feelings of a clearly conflicted group (as CAIR) and to not speak at his Alma Matter is an act that is beneath him and his status.

Too many people have paid too high a price to be marginalized by political correctness.

Come and join me I am here in Kabul and have been here and there off and on since 05.

25 posted on 01/31/2012 9:10:54 AM PST by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons!)
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To: SERE_DOC

could it be that he was told to cool it on religion that might offend the perpetually offended and he refused to put muslim on the same level as christian and jews....


26 posted on 01/31/2012 9:18:16 AM PST by goat granny
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To: mandaladon

He should have gone and punctuated his points with a big bite of crispy bacon.


27 posted on 01/31/2012 9:22:42 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SERE_DOC

West Point is not Boykin’s alma mater. Gen. Boykin was born in New Bern, North Carolina. He graduated from Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University (Virginia Tech) with a bachelor’s degree in English in 1971. Boykin went to Armed Forces Staff College, Army War College, and Shippensburg University (where he received a Masters Degree).


28 posted on 01/31/2012 9:29:35 AM PST by miele man
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To: Harley
These guys would like to see the Ft Hood assassin as the speaker.

Not a bad idea, really.

It would drive home the point...

29 posted on 01/31/2012 9:35:26 AM PST by null and void (Day 1107 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: noinfringers2
I’m surprised that there are Muslim cadets because that is more than a faith religion. It is/includes a promoting of government outside the bounds and foundation of our Constitution.

See also:

al Taqiyya
Infiltration
Fifth column

30 posted on 01/31/2012 9:39:01 AM PST by null and void (Day 1107 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: miele man

Given all that, perhaps we should all submit?


31 posted on 01/31/2012 9:40:39 AM PST by null and void (Day 1107 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: mandaladon

anyone know how many Muslims we have in the service academies??


32 posted on 01/31/2012 10:13:02 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: mosaicwolf

Prayer Breakfasts were never mandatory.


33 posted on 01/31/2012 10:14:33 AM PST by chargers fan
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To: mandaladon

hope that the speaker who replaces him will offer cadets a spiritual message that promotes tolerance and mutual understanding,

Well that let’s out a muslim since they are the most intolerant and least understanding people on the planet.....


34 posted on 01/31/2012 10:18:05 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: mandaladon

CAIR is Muslim Brotherhood, ideological allies of Al Qaeda and terrorists in their own right. In a sane world, every member of CAIR, ISNA and the MSA would be detained. In a PC world, they get to control our conversation on Islam.


35 posted on 01/31/2012 10:25:58 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: SERE_DOC

My 18 months in the theater reinforced my lifetime conclusion that things are not necessarily as they appear.

The academy reports that Gen Boykin withdraw of his own volition.

How likely is it that the WH, currently infested with muslim “advisors” and “consultants” did not have a hand in the agenda of this military event, even if indirect?

Is it not possible the academy, or even the chain above it was “informally” advised by operatives in the WH that it would be in the best interest of the nation if such “controversial” individuals did not use the military as a platform?

How likely is it that Gen Boykin would have insisted on participating if he had been informed that there was real concern in the entire chain of command that his participation would not serve the interest of the academy?

What aret the odds if he had beeen cordially asked by those in the higher chain to please reconsider his participation, that he would not have done so.

I am inclined to give a proven warrior such as Gen Boykin the benefit of all these questions. And that is before any thought is given to thug tactics by his opponents and others, that may well have been in play.

Whatever your view, you have the credentials to voice it and I respect that. You also know our nation is in a struggle for survival and that struggle is with more than just the socialists now active in our government and major institutions. That the struggle is complicated by the fact that one force poses as a religion and we dare not identify it as an enemy.

Keep your eye on the road.


36 posted on 01/31/2012 10:32:05 AM PST by frog in a pot
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To: SERE_DOC

Excuse me, withdraw = withdrew. As far as your invitation, I would have gone back in a heartbeat.


37 posted on 01/31/2012 10:38:33 AM PST by frog in a pot
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To: miele man
I stand corrected.

Being the type of individual that "I" am, if the opportunity presented it's self to attend, and some turd organization protested, I would have gone just to piss them off. but that is just me.

Cheers

38 posted on 01/31/2012 6:35:52 PM PST by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons!)
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To: frog in a pot; miele man
Perhaps my knee jerk response / statement was over the top, perhaps

I have seen too many alleged leaders capitulate for political expediency, when they should have (IMHO) stood their ground.

My time in the Mil leaders like Al Grey (Marine Corps, Commandant) was the farthest from a political type and spoke his mind regardless of who was listening.

Unfortunately warriors like his caliber are a dying breed.

Cheers to you both. Frog in a Pot, thank you for your service.

39 posted on 01/31/2012 6:45:42 PM PST by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons!)
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To: goat granny
Could very well be.

I will be the first to admit I am wrong when warranted. Perhaps I am wrong, unknown if that is the case here....

What America needs now is leaders, and leaders who are not afraid (not the risk averse idiots who are thinking of their next promotion)

Please see my response to "Frog in a pot" and miele man.

Cheers to you!

40 posted on 01/31/2012 6:50:27 PM PST by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons!)
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To: mandaladon

Shame on WP. Why the heck do they care what CAIR thinks or says? I’m so sick of what this Country has become.


41 posted on 01/31/2012 6:54:31 PM PST by liberalh8ter (I don't like what the world has become....)
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To: elpadre

I saw a number a few months back here on FR. Hopefully, I can find it again. Will post it if/when I do. Good question.


42 posted on 01/31/2012 7:07:14 PM PST by miele man
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To: SERE_DOC

LOL, “perhaps” just a tad over the top.

Thank you for your response. Appreciate it.

Yes, I too have seen a number of “leaders” knuckle under for expediencies’ sake. Saw more than a few during my hitches and afterward.

Thank you for your service as well.


43 posted on 01/31/2012 7:17:51 PM PST by miele man
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To: SERE_DOC

It was just the though that came to mind when I read the story....as you said, unknown in this case, but I’d give him the benefit of the doubt...fighting and losing men to muslims, I wouldn’t put them in the same catagory of being religious or spiritual and would say no if told to...thats standing up for your beliefs and too hell with being politically correct..PC will kill us all..scre* them all. Thank you for being a defended of us all.


44 posted on 01/31/2012 7:30:00 PM PST by goat granny
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To: SERE_DOC; miele man
Frog in a Pot, thank you for your service.

Thank you, but I probably do not deserve that gratitude in the sense you convey it. You implied you are now incountry as a civilian DOD'er, so our circumstances may be similar. I was not in uniform or on active duty.

Rather like you, as a civilian DOD'er, my risk was limited to ordnance lobbed over the wire, driving an up-armored SUV on the highways every few weeks, flying unarmed over bad guy land in U.S. military aircraft or in a POS third world discarded aircraft - and my everyday wintertime favorite - wondering if the non-U.S. personnel inside the wire who were wearing cheap, bulky parkas were packing bombs. On several occasions, they were.

You and I know the folks that deserve our nation's thanks are those that went out, and still go out every day with the specific intent of confronting the bad guys; especially those that had their lives and families changed forever during those excursions.

45 posted on 02/01/2012 5:14:13 PM PST by frog in a pot
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To: frog in a pot
It is exactly how I intended it. IMHO the service members are all without exception hero's and honor the country by their selfless service.

Contractors who free up the "shooters" so they can do their job should be honored for their service as well.

So if you please, "Thank you for your service"

46 posted on 02/01/2012 8:29:36 PM PST by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons!)
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