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Privacy concerns stall release of WI recall signatures
Wisconsin Reporter ^ | 1-29-12 | M.D. Kittle

Posted on 01/31/2012 8:06:08 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

MADISON — What’s in a million names?

Wisconsin and the world were supposed to find out Monday.

Now, the Government Accountability Board, or GAB, which oversees state elections and campaigns, is reportedly holding off posting the reported 1 million signatures on petitions seeking to recall Gov. Scott Walker due to privacy concerns.

GAB spokesman Reid Magney told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Monday evening the board was holding off on posting the names online after hearing concerns about a stalking victim and others who did not want their names released.

Earlier in the day, Magney told Wisconsin Reporter that the signatures would be released Monday, despite contradiction in the GAB office about the release schedule.

On Monday, the board heard from people who did not want their information disclosed for privacy reasons, which led the board to take more time to consider the issue, Magney told the Milwaukee newspaper.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Wisconsin last month asked that the names of domestic abuse victims be kept confidential.

Magney did not immediately return phone calls from Wisconsin Reporter.

The GAB’s move is unprecedented in unprecedented political times in a divided Badger State.

During last summer’s Senate recall campaigns, the board posted the petition signatures on its website to ease concerns over transparency.

“In Wisconsin, election petitions have always been public records, and the Government Accountability Board previously published the 2011 State Senate recall petitions online in the interest of promoting transparency,” the GAB’s website states.

Due to high public demand to inspect the current recall petition signatures, reportedly totaling about 1.9 million, and the time-consuming task of burning CDs, GAB planned to offer all petitions online in PDF form.

The board within days of the deadline for recall campaigns to turn in petitions, posted on its site the signatures from recall efforts targeting four state GOP senators — Pam Galloway of Wausau, Terry Moulton of Chippewa Falls, Van Wanggaard of Racine, and Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald of Juneau.

Magney earlier Monday said the board planned to turn over the scanned copies of the petitions targeting Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch, and post them online, sometime later this week.

What remained unanswered late Monday was why the Walker recall petitions are considered different than the others — why those names may be shielded while not the other.

The GAB’s move has brought together a group of diverse bedfellows demanding the board post the petitions online, from Bill Lueders, president of the Wisconsin Freedom of Information Council,to the conservative McIver Institute, which, like Wisconsin Reporter, plans to file an open record request seeking all 1 million signatures on the petition.

Meanwhile, just as Walker recall petitions were expected to debut Monday at the GAB site, an army of volunteers, said the Republican Party of Wisconsin, was scouring signatures and finding plenty of bad names.

“We have found numerous fraudulent names, fraudulent addresses, people who signed the petition before the period was to have started, even people who signed after the deadline,” said Ben Sparks, chairman of the Wisconsin GOP.

But Edna Highland, vice chairwoman of the Kenosha County Democratic Party, said the process has been “fair and square,” that even though errors should be expected in such unprecedented times, there will be more than enough signatures to recall the embattled governor.

The GAB’s release of the petitions online allows the public to view the signatures, if said public is so inclined to pour through hundreds of thousands of names on a PDF.

Going over each of the signatures is precisely what GAB temporary employees and staff have to do.

“At this point, our review continues,” GAB’s Magney said, declining to provide details on how many pages or the number of signatures have been reviewed so far.

Magney could not say definitively how many signatures recall organizers had collected. The Democratic Party of Wisconsin and liberal political action committee United Wisconsin have said the campaign to recall Walker has collected 1 million signatures and more than 845,000 for Kleefisch.

GAB’s count will verify the Democrats’ number independently but, Magney said, the official count may not be in until GAB staff makes its recommendation to the board.

“You have to go through every single page and how many signatures that are on every single page,” he said. “We’re just starting this process.”

The GAB’s task is to check each line of each petition, flagging any names that appear fraudulent or fictitious and tossing out duplicate names.

Sparks said there are plenty of problems, at least according to reviews by vetting volunteers at 13 Republican-run signature verification sites around the state.

He said the effort so far has found numerous incidents of duplicate signatures and apparent fraud.

“The entire process has had zero integrity from Day 1, when it began outside of Governor Walker’s house where his kids sleep at his private residence,” in Wauwatosa, the GOP spokesman said.

“And, again, all of this is going to fall on taxpayers,” he said, noting the oft-quoted GAB estimate, pegging the cost of one statewide recall election at about $9 million.

Mike Tate, chairman of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, did not return a phone call from Wisconsin Reporter seeking comment.

Highland, of the Kenosha County Democrats, said the finger-pointing is not surprising in Wisconsin’s partisan politics. It all depends on your political point of view.

“I do believe if it (the recall campaigns) were the other way around, Democrats would turn around and say the same thing,” adding that she hopes it doesn’t degenerate into a “pissing match” between the parties.

GAB has asked for a 30-day extension to its original 31-day deadline, and it is possible the board will need more time in its review.

Magney said, as of Monday, petition reviewers had encountered no problems, and GAB had not heard of complaints from incumbents.

Highland expects an extended review and challenge process, with a recall election at least four months away.

But Highland, a retired Kenosha County clerk and longtime government employee, said make no mistake about it: “I think we will have a new governor,” she said.

The latest polling data show Democrats could have a tough hill to climb in making Highland’s prediction a reality.

Marquette Law School’s poll of 701 Wisconsin registered voters, conducted Jan. 19-22, shows Walker leading possible Democratic challengers by 6 percentage points or more. The poll’s margin of error was plus or minus 3.8 percentage points for the full sample of respondents.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: aclu; ballotstuffing; corruption; cultureofcorruption; democratcorruption; democrats; democratvoterfraud; electionfraud; elections; fraud; gab; howtostealanelection; liberalfascism; liberals; lwv; nodemocrats2012; transparency; walker; wisconsinshowdown

1 posted on 01/31/2012 8:06:13 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; TaMoDee; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ..

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2 posted on 01/31/2012 8:07:50 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The people who signed the etition should have thought about “privacy concerns” before they signed it.

Onece you place your name on a public document you have given up privacy concerns inasmuch as it pertains to that document.


3 posted on 01/31/2012 8:08:36 AM PST by Venturer
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The people who signed the petition should have thought about “privacy concerns” before they signed it.

Onece you place your name on a public document you have given up privacy concerns inasmuch as it pertains to that document.


4 posted on 01/31/2012 8:08:46 AM PST by Venturer
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Didn’t seem to be any “privacy concerns” when the homos wanted the petition list against gay “marriage” in California.

And they DID use those lists to harrass people.


5 posted on 01/31/2012 8:09:03 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I guess courage of ones convictions means nothing anymore.
6 posted on 01/31/2012 8:09:12 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This is backfiring big time LOL


7 posted on 01/31/2012 8:10:28 AM PST by MNlurker
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Privacy concerns on a ‘recall petition’? Really?

Maybe they should have thought about that before signing a ‘public’ document.

Don’t want your name exposed? Fine.

Have them REMOVE IT...

Should reduce the list by about half, I’d say.


8 posted on 01/31/2012 8:13:21 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
she hopes it doesn’t degenerate into a “pissing match” between the parties.

What's wrong with this woman? It's a RECALL PETITION. That's the very ideal of a "pissing match."

9 posted on 01/31/2012 8:13:44 AM PST by eCSMaster (Excommunicate evildoers)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Wisconsin - this is what idiocy looks like!


10 posted on 01/31/2012 8:16:45 AM PST by eCSMaster (Excommunicate evildoers)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I'm beginning to smell a big commie rat.


11 posted on 01/31/2012 8:17:30 AM PST by ILS21R (Never give up.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This whole recall campaign is an exercise in harrassment.

The occupation and trashing of the Wisconsin state house was harrassment.

The accusations against Supreme Court Judge David Prosser were harrassment.

I’m sure there are countless other actions taken by the Wisconsin public employees unions to harrass people.

Now they’re all concerned about harrassment arising from their stupid petition drive.

These people will argue that an attempt to get them to tell the truth constitutes “harrassment.”

No abuse victim had to sign the petition.

Did they think they could sign the petitions and no one would read their names?


12 posted on 01/31/2012 8:18:06 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

—But Highland, a retired Kenosha County clerk and longtime government employee, said make no mistake about it: “I think we will have a new governor,” she said. —

Gosh. Maybe Walker should just resign right now...

/s


13 posted on 01/31/2012 8:19:09 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: mosaicwolf
"I guess courage of ones convictions means nothing anymore."

Yeah, and in this case of the Progressives/Unions' Petition, the "convictions" on a lot of the signatures are Felony Convictions, I would guess.

14 posted on 01/31/2012 8:19:46 AM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Mickey, Donald, and Adolf give their permission for release


15 posted on 01/31/2012 8:25:01 AM PST by bigbob
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To: afraidfortherepublic

FWIW, VerifyTheRecall says they have completed the data entry of the petitions for Senator Van Wanggaard. It will be interesting to see what comes from crunching that data in the next few days.


16 posted on 01/31/2012 8:25:58 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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17 posted on 01/31/2012 8:27:31 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: jiggyboy

Yes. I worked on that one. They cut me off in the middle of a page at about 11:30 Sun. night. LOL.


18 posted on 01/31/2012 8:28:16 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
How do they even know what they were signing? One of several examples that have been posted showing where the name "Scott Walker" was obliterated to hide the purpose of the petition:


19 posted on 01/31/2012 8:28:54 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Steely Tom
The accusations against Supreme Court Judge David Prosser were harrassment.

And now they are after Justice Gablleman -- trying to make him recuse himself on several cases which could flip the decision. They are unconscionable.

20 posted on 01/31/2012 8:30:42 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Keep at it old sport. I do about 30 signatures at a spell then have to take a break to keep myself from getting sloppy.


21 posted on 01/31/2012 8:31:21 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

There was a recent U.S Supreme Court case involving this exact same issue regarding names on an initiative petition by opponents of same sex marriage. The supreme court said they had to be released.

Typically, liberals want it both ways.


22 posted on 01/31/2012 8:34:10 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I think everyone was cut off late Sunday night.


23 posted on 01/31/2012 8:34:13 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

BREAKING: per Facebook posting from a guy who just talked with GAB, they have reversed and will post the petitions later today or tomorrow.

WI law has specific provisions regarding redaction of names as in this case, GAB clearly overreached. My guess is their lawyers delivered a smackdown to whoever made this boneheaded decision.


24 posted on 01/31/2012 8:34:43 AM PST by bigbob
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To: afraidfortherepublic

There was a recent U.S Supreme Court case involving this exact same issue regarding names on an initiative petition by opponents of same sex marriage. The supreme court said they had to be released.

Typically, liberals want it both ways.


25 posted on 01/31/2012 8:34:56 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan
Typically, liberals want it both ways.

They want whatever will give them a momentary advantage.

They know the MSM won't call them on it.

They will mis-use the procedural characteristics of the democratic process, the legal system, the education system, whatever, to gain an advantage. It doesn't matter how ridiculous it is. It doesn't matter how contradictory or hypocritical they look. They know the MSM will look the other way, but the bottom line is they simply don't care. They also know the average person will forget all the details in a year or two anyway.

26 posted on 01/31/2012 8:38:46 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: bigbob

It’s not a given that that invalidates that page. The ones I’m typing in for the Senators have that big type as a header and additionally spell it out in the text just below it: “we the voters of (area) petition for the recall of (specific person)...”


27 posted on 01/31/2012 8:41:06 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: bigbob

Thanks for the info. I hope that it is true, as there is a time limit on reviewing and entering those names.

I wonder if this affects VerifytheRecall (11,000+ people working on line) as well as the GOP Victory Centers where we are hand sorting and visually checking petitions.


28 posted on 01/31/2012 8:41:49 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“Privacy issues” ??

More like “authenticity issues”.


29 posted on 01/31/2012 8:43:47 AM PST by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Libs were all in favor of posting lists of the people who opposed gay marriage in California.

And now suddenly they’re not.

They’ll probably get their way in Wi.

Just another double standard day in Obamaland.


30 posted on 01/31/2012 8:45:22 AM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: bigbob
Mickey, Donald, and Adolf give their permission for release

Dittos for Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner.

31 posted on 01/31/2012 8:49:31 AM PST by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: Tzimisce

They won’t.

The best thing that Walker and the Republican controlled Senate/Legislature did was allow for lawsuits to be brought outside of Dane County as had been the previous law.

The GAB would have gotten away with their original plan to allow Hitler, Bugs Bunny, etc if the Walker administration hadn’t had a judge in Waukesha County order them to strike those names.

I think that’s why the left and the GAB are flailing so badly right now in the PR campaign. They are used to having Dane County judges cover their leftist butts when they broke the rules. Now they are facing having to answer to judges in Counties other than the People’s Republic and not having a legal leg to stand on.

Fun times here in Wisconsin!!!! :)


32 posted on 01/31/2012 9:02:27 AM PST by MNlurker
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To: jiggyboy; afraidfortherepublic
I do about 30 signatures at a spell then have to take a break to keep myself from getting sloppy.

Same here - some of those signatures look like they've been signed by doctors - lots of "Can't tell".

33 posted on 01/31/2012 9:27:23 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Oatka

I worked on Senator Van Wanggaard’s, then viewed Fitzgerald’s petitions but didn’t work on them.

I noticed that a fairly decent percentage, probably 8-10%, of signers on Fitzgerald’s put their signatures in the “printed” box and printed their names in the “signatures” box. Not sure if that would disqualify them or not?

Also, apparently the law states that the full year must be written, i.e., 11/12/2011, not just 11/12/11. On Van Wanggaard, the petition form had the century printed, the requirement was met on virtually all petitions.

However, on Fitzgerald’s the date column was just a blank space, and 99% of people just wrote “11/12/11” leaving out the full year, 2011. I doubt they’ll rule them invalid, but it’s possible I suppose.


34 posted on 01/31/2012 9:44:00 AM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

hilarious, if this was an anti-gay marriage referendum, the papers would be publishing the names and addresses of the signers.


35 posted on 01/31/2012 10:15:53 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Revolting cat!

Donald Duck is concerned about autograph hounds.


36 posted on 01/31/2012 10:20:03 AM PST by a fool in paradise (When is President Obama going to cut Warren Buffett's secretary's tax rate? She gets $200-500k/yr)
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To: GeronL
hilarious, if this was an anti-gay marriage referendum, the papers would be publishing the names and addresses of the signers.

Exactly. And as an added public service, the names of each of their children and the addresses of the schools they attend.

37 posted on 01/31/2012 10:22:40 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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