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Egyptian Cleric Defends Muhammad's Marriage to Aisha: In Warm Climates, Girls Reach Puberty...
MEMRI TV ^ | 1-9-12 | Safa TV (Kuwait)

Posted on 01/31/2012 9:06:20 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Following are excerpts from a religious program presented by Egyptian cleric Sheik Abdallah Kamal, which aired on Safa TV on January 9, 2012:

Abdallah Kamal: I mentioned yesterday that the Prophet Muhammad married Aisha when she was six years old, and had sexual intercourse with her when she was nine years old. People might raise an eyebrow and ask how such a thing could be.

This hadith has been taken, by people with ulterior motives, and by people who hate the Prophet Muhammad – whether Christians, Orientalists, or even some Muslims… They, however, made a great mistake, and in their efforts to defend the Prophet Muhammad – and although we think highly of them – they made a very dangerous mistake, and attributed a falsehood to Imam Al-Bukhari, and made him appear to have made a mistake.

In an effort to ingratiate themselves upon human rights organizations, they denied that the Prophet Muhammad married Aisha, mother of the believers, at such a young age. Some of the malevolent people, like the deceiver, Zakariya [Boutrus] – and [the prophet Zakariya] has nothing to do with him – took that hadith and accused the Prophet Muhammad of being a child rapist. We say to him: Shut up. May Allah silence you, cut off your tongue, and destroy the very foundations of your being, for you are leveling accusations against the master of humanity, the beloved of God, the Messenger of the Lord of the Worlds.

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This [union] was decreed by Allah, and therefore, the Prophet Muhammad only married Aisha because of a decree by Allah.

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The marriage of Aisha, mother of the believers to the Prophet Muhammad, was not her first marriage. She was betrothed, even before that, to Jubayr ibn Mut'im. Before the Prophet Muhammad married her, Aisha was betrothed to Jubayr ibn Mut'im.

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The environment differs from one place to another, from one climate to another, and from one country to another. In some countries, a girl reaches puberty at the age of 8 or 9. Moreover, religious scholars have written, in the books of jurisprudence that a girl may menstruate and even give birth at the age of 9 years. She can give birth at the age of 9 years.

Okay. So where is this cruelty and barbarism they are talking about? How can they claim that the Prophet Muhammad only cared about his desire and his lust? What is this obvious deception?

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In warm places, girls reach puberty at a very early age – generally at the age of 8 years. In cold places, girls' puberty is delayed until the age of 21 years – as is the case in some cold countries.

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Where do you stand with regard to the wedding of Joseph the Carpenter, who, as you write in your own holy books, married the Virgin Mary when she was only 12 years old and he was 90 years old? Is it not written in your books? Read your own holy scripture. Joseph the Carpenter was 90 years old, while Mary was 12 years old. Why don't you denounce this?!

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: aisha; corruption; crushislam; islam; islamicchildrape; islamicfilth; kalbislam; madmo; moralabsolutes; muhammad

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Read the last two paragraphs....what BS.

1 posted on 01/31/2012 9:06:29 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Well, that explains it all.


2 posted on 01/31/2012 9:09:15 AM PST by Tenacious 1
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Yup. Muslims are progressive and the western progressives are trying to catch up.

First homosexual “ marriage “ then removing pedophilia from the DSM as homosexuality was in the `70s. Next, making it legal.


3 posted on 01/31/2012 9:10:22 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

It’s obvious that he views females as nothing but sexual objects having little or no choice in the matter. He is advocating child rape.


4 posted on 01/31/2012 9:14:29 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Tenacious 1

LOL..Yep, everythings clear now.


5 posted on 01/31/2012 9:15:17 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (How ironic that Ann Coulter should write a book called Treason.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Yep, Mohammed was a great guy, if you don’t mind a little rape, murder, adultery, pederasty, oath breaking, and enslavement.

The Bible does not give the ages of Joseph or Mary, although there are various traditions—but not authoritative. Moreover, it is clear from the biblical account that Mary gave birth to Jesus as a virgin, and according to Catholic belief and early tradition, that she remained a virgin.

So, this lying Mohammedan says we should respect his religion, in the same statement where he mocks and lies about Christianity.


6 posted on 01/31/2012 9:16:23 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Then there’s this. Take a few minutes and listen to the whole thing. Is our government blind? http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid949801312001?bckey=AQ~~%2cAAAACEco_Vk~%2c9bOat4XcfB_88ri1a3UMdKnLpH9aM8Fv&bclid=0&bctid=1271237687001


7 posted on 01/31/2012 9:17:00 AM PST by RC2
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To: Cicero

...Yet the “irony” of it all is that the Islamic religion “respects” both the Jewish and Christian faiths.


8 posted on 01/31/2012 9:20:14 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
The marriage of Aisha, mother of the believers to the Prophet Muhammad, was not her first marriage. She was betrothed, even before that, to Jubayr ibn Mut'im. Before the Prophet Muhammad married her, Aisha was betrothed to Jubayr ibn Mut'im.

So Muhammed was not only a pedophile but an adulterer. Got it.

9 posted on 01/31/2012 9:21:00 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
Read your own holy scripture. Joseph the Carpenter was 90 years old, while Mary was 12 years old.

What an easily disproved lie. Apparently this moron hasn't ever read the scriptures he is claiming to be talking about.

10 posted on 01/31/2012 9:23:18 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Pedophilia, slavery, misogyny, cruel & unusual punishment/7th century legal system, religious bigotry & virulent xenophobia, hatred of dogs ....

About the only good thing that can said about them is said by our MSM and putative president: Islam, the Religion of Peace.


11 posted on 01/31/2012 9:24:07 AM PST by tumblindice ("ghetto masses" Cloward-Piven)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis; muawiyah
Ping to muawiyah who says the Aisha story is one of after the fact establishment of false paternity.

True or not from a historic basis - a billion people assume it is true and the actions of “the perfect man”, seek to justify it, and continue the practice.

12 posted on 01/31/2012 9:25:36 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Biggirl

“Yet the “irony” of it all is that the Islamic religion “respects” both the Jewish and Christian faiths.”


Only in the early part of their comic book for retards known as the koron pbui (pi$$ be upon it).

As Mo-Ham-Muds delusions became more satanic, it is painfully obvious that in the later parts of this work of satanic fiction Is_Slime is at war with EVERY other religion and with those of no religion.


13 posted on 01/31/2012 9:27:42 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

I got news for Sheik Abdallah Kamal, not only is his ‘prophet’ a child molesting freak who is even now burning in Hellfire, when King Jesus returns exactly as His Word states, He is going to shut Kamal’s effin piehole once and for all.

Bet the rent Yabba-Dabba-Abdallah.


14 posted on 01/31/2012 9:27:52 AM PST by mkjessup (A loser to a loser who now endorses that loser is a loser. <-- iow, NO Romney, No WAY!)
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To: MEGoody

Definitely a moron. I couldn’t decide whether to lol or puke at that lame claim.....


15 posted on 01/31/2012 9:29:03 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

These people are beyond sick. They are pure Evil willingly doing the work of Satan.......


16 posted on 01/31/2012 9:29:18 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: mkjessup
Someone overheard Mohammud say,”If she's old enough to pee she's old enough for me”. These are considered words to live by in the religion of peace.
17 posted on 01/31/2012 9:32:51 AM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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18 posted on 01/31/2012 9:44:35 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: allmendream
So, a billion people believe the purest sort of cr*p on pain of death. Doesn't mean a thing. Happens every day.

I simply hope our own people don't get caught up in the minutiae of cr*p that parades under the title of Hadith.

19 posted on 01/31/2012 9:44:47 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
In some countries, a girl reaches puberty at the age of 8 or 9              



20 posted on 01/31/2012 9:46:29 AM PST by tomkat (Puck Fisslam)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Perverts defending perverts makes Islam what it is.


21 posted on 01/31/2012 9:52:34 AM PST by pallis
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Horrible so-called prophet. Horrible so-called religion. Horrible legacy. Islam will eventually have to be wiped off the face of the earth, or we will be.


22 posted on 01/31/2012 9:53:23 AM PST by onedoug
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
In cold places, girls' puberty is delayed until the age of 21 years – as is the case in some cold countries.

Finally, a rational explanation for why Scandinavian teenagers are so sexually unappealing. /s

23 posted on 01/31/2012 9:54:08 AM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: muawiyah
Sure it does - it means that a billion people think that Muhammed took Aisha at 9 or whatever - and they think he is the “perfect man” and they seek to excuse and justify such actions - and perpetuate them.

To those girls victimized by this ideology - I would say it means more than just “a thing”, nor would I attempt to convince them that it doesn't mean a thing.

But good luck with that!

24 posted on 01/31/2012 9:57:50 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
Read your own holy scripture. Joseph the Carpenter was 90 years old, while Mary was 12 years old.

It's over in Jude 3:21

25 posted on 01/31/2012 10:12:28 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

9 years old?.....he had sex with a 9 year old girl?.....and that’s OK with them?.....they even defend it?.....unbelievable.


26 posted on 01/31/2012 10:19:35 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: allmendream
You know you are arguing on both sides of the question. I'm not. The story is simply BS.

Moslems no doubt use it to subjugate women.

That should encourage Christian missionaries to arm themselves when dealing with these people. Anyone who uses child rape or stories about how good it is to keep women in line with such tales is a hopeless barbarian who cannot be trusted.

27 posted on 01/31/2012 10:22:28 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
In warm places, girls reach puberty at a very early age – generally at the age of 8 years. In cold places, girls' puberty is delayed until the age of 21 years – as is the case in some cold countries.

That's nuts right there!

28 posted on 01/31/2012 10:23:04 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
..so (mooseslims) now use, "GloBULL warming", as a justification for raping (young) children?
Islam, Isn't a religion, just method to rape children. :-\

29 posted on 01/31/2012 10:24:09 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (kill the terrorists, protect all the borders, laugh @ the liberals :^)
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To: muawiyah
I am pointing out to you that what “really really actually happened” is both unknowable and irrelevant to the fact that a billion people think it is true that ‘the perfect man’ took Aisha as wife at 9 or whatnot - and seek to justify and perpetuate this.

This is not arguing both sides of the question- it is pointing out that your minority view is irrelevant to what a billion Muslims believe and practice.

30 posted on 01/31/2012 10:24:46 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: tbpiper

i cant find jude 3:21


31 posted on 01/31/2012 10:29:37 AM PST by Craftmore
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To: Craftmore

LOL. Yeah, I think that is the joke.


32 posted on 01/31/2012 10:34:50 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
May Allah silence you, cut off your tongue, and destroy the very foundations of your being, for you are leveling accusations against the master of humanity, the beloved of God, the Messenger of the Lord of the Worlds.

nice.

33 posted on 01/31/2012 10:39:00 AM PST by ichabod1 (Mr. Gingrich)
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To: allmendream

What they believe is more than irrelevant. It is wrong and leads to conclusions contrary to reality.


34 posted on 01/31/2012 10:57:36 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Haji is still trying to justify what Mo’s marriage. And I don’t mean Mo of Larry Mo and curly.


35 posted on 01/31/2012 11:07:34 AM PST by Rappini (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: muawiyah
How do you claim to KNOW it is wrong? Even if wrong it makes little difference what actually happened - real events that are not recognized shape history far less than fake events that are widely recognized.

What Muslims believe is quite relevant to the prepubescent girls married off to old men throughout the Muslim world.

It is correct that cult leaders often sexually abuse the members of their cult - often children. The conclusion is that given the power some men would prefer to continue this practice - and that is in accord, rather than contrary, to reality.

Sorry your ‘Muhammed wasn't really a pedophile’ is not accepted by the vast majority of the Islamic world - nor is it likely to be accepted here - and even if true it wouldn't make much difference because a billion people believe it and practice it.

36 posted on 01/31/2012 11:10:01 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
The Moslem world accepts all sorts of nonsense and it's still nonsense no matter how many people believe it.

There's a good case that can be made for Mohammad not having existed at all.

37 posted on 01/31/2012 12:39:46 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
But if he DID exist- you are pretty sure he didn't molest Aisha at 9 - like the accounts of his life and a billion Muslims say!?!? That right there is funny!

If so then what is believed about a fictional character - based upon the writings about that fictional character - are WHAT and WHO that fictional character is - in this case a pedophile.

May as well try to claim that King Arthur, if he did exist, wasn't really the son of Uther Pendragon, and didn't really marry Guenevere!

That is ridiculous!

38 posted on 01/31/2012 12:45:48 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
King Ad did, in fact, exist and is mentioned by St. Gildas ~ and others.

St. Gildas also existed ~ his church is just across the way from what amounts to our family ancestral home ~ which he also built about 1500 years ago.

Do you dare doubt King Ad?

This Mohammad guy has no contemporaneous accounts ~ the whole story was put together many years after his death in Damascus.

39 posted on 01/31/2012 12:50:54 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
LOL. Way to not get my point!

It wasn't about if King Arthur is actually real or mythical - it is your splitting the difference that you are not at all sure if Mohammed existed or not, but you are absolutely sure that if he DID exist - he didn't molest Aisha!

Similarly I could say that if King Arthur DID exist - he wasn't really the son of Uther Pendragon - that was all made up after the fact.

Do you see how idiotic and ridiculous that sound?

Apparently not!

40 posted on 01/31/2012 12:59:28 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
Joseph the Carpenter was 90 years old, while Mary was 12 years old. Why don't you denounce this?!

'Cause I never heard it before, and doubt that it is true. A little taqiyya, Imam?

41 posted on 01/31/2012 1:03:34 PM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: allmendream
You are missing the point. Mohammad simply didn't exist. Aisha might have, but she was the mother of an important figure in the foundation of the Arab Empire.

Remember when they killed Ali? Mo ran out of male heirs so your ordinary rules of inheritance didn't work to justify the people who were in line to become the Calilph.

They made it up. They went on to create the Koran itself out of whole cloth and a Christian missionary's manual on how to convert the Arabs in Mecca.

No one made up King Ad.

42 posted on 01/31/2012 1:06:05 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
Can we ask this guy if he knows anything about the German scholar appointed by the government to produce an official bio on Muhammad and how the writer couldn't find a single shred of historical evidence the Great Prophet ever existed? And then can we ask him if the guy's still alive?

That was my favorite news article of last year.

43 posted on 01/31/2012 1:06:36 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Craftmore
It's a joke. It ain't there. Never was. I have no idea where this Muslim brainiac got the quote, but it is not from the bible.
44 posted on 01/31/2012 2:49:46 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
"This [union] was decreed by Allah, and therefore, the Prophet Muhammad only married Aisha because of a decree by Allah."

...which merely validates my tagline...

45 posted on 01/31/2012 10:46:21 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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