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Romney: Welfare State So Successful We Donít Have to Worry About Poor
Stop the ACLU ^ | 1 Feb 2012 | John Stephenson

Posted on 02/01/2012 11:25:24 AM PST by Jay777

So, we shouldn’t worry about the poor because we have a welfare state that keeps them on a crutch (or “a float”). I understand that his focus is on the middle class and that he believes these were the people hurt the most by the financial situation in America, but is the underlying philosophy here to just “fix holes” in the “safety net” or should we be trying to fix the entitlement mentality that helped pull us into this debt? This should be red meat for Newt who worked to reform welfare. Some are defending this as being taken out of context, and it very easily could be…but the underlying philosophy to keep the poor “a float” in their dependency on the government sounded pretty clear.

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1 posted on 02/01/2012 11:25:27 AM PST by Jay777
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To: Jay777; Jim Robinson; DarthVader

Quick, somebody! Get this Quote to newt!


2 posted on 02/01/2012 11:27:50 AM PST by left that other site
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To: left that other site

And to Rush and Beck, if they can get their head out of their a$$es for a minute.


3 posted on 02/01/2012 11:29:37 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Jay777
ROMNEY POOR, ROMNEY AND THE POOR
4 posted on 02/01/2012 11:30:27 AM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Limbaugh was all over this in his first hour...


5 posted on 02/01/2012 11:31:37 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Jay777

and I know poor people who plan to vite for Willie Mitty again this time...

and some mega rich too...

will this make them change their minds ???


6 posted on 02/01/2012 11:32:48 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Married With Children: The TV Show about Romney's Conservative Family)
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To: Jay777

I am starting to think Willard is like Soetero...credentialed but unintelligent.


7 posted on 02/01/2012 11:34:23 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Jay777

Click to Donate to Newt Gingrich

8 posted on 02/01/2012 11:35:13 AM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God: Newt, Rick and Sarah will be right next to you.)
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To: FrankR

Romney will just bet you $10,000 there’s a law/tax he can pass to patch the net, or somebody he can pay to make the law or tax.


9 posted on 02/01/2012 11:35:23 AM PST by Irenic
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To: Jay777

I am not a Romney fan. but that was a major screw-up. I bet Romney is sitting in a room somewhere with his head in his hands right now wishing he could take that back. THAT’S going to leave a mark!


10 posted on 02/01/2012 11:35:37 AM PST by BRK
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To: left that other site

This is a major stick-the-foot-in-the-mouth moment for Myth Remulak in less than 24 hours! It is all over the Internet and is posted on Facebook too so I believe Newt has this and will use it to his advantage.


11 posted on 02/01/2012 11:35:45 AM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: who knows what evil?

That quote right there will sink him in the general. No matter how he tries backtrack.

I literally can not stand Rick Santorum. He reminds me of Huckabee. I wish he would pack it in and go home. He is just an angry looking distateful man. Reminds me of an uptight nosey neighbor.

Go Newt. He is the best.


12 posted on 02/01/2012 11:35:52 AM PST by lone star annie
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To: Jay777

Newt or the Democrats are going to go crazy with that quote n tv ads!

they probably should


13 posted on 02/01/2012 11:37:10 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Jay777

” - - - Some are defending this as being taken out of context - - - “

The only thing that is taken out of context is coming from those who claim that Romney is a Republican.

“Safety-Net” Willy, the mild-mannered Massachusetts Moderate, who can’t even park his bicycle straight.

I DO love these looooooooooooong Primary Campaigns!


14 posted on 02/01/2012 11:37:20 AM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: lone star annie

It may very well sink his chance at the nomination.


15 posted on 02/01/2012 11:38:46 AM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Jay777

This is what has been bothering me about Romney’s quote.

Taken in context, he seems to be saying that all we need to do about the poor is provide a safety net.

As opposed to the idea that we should find ways to raise people out of poverty so they can join the middle (or even upper) class.

Romney’s mindset seems exactly the same as the Democrats.


16 posted on 02/01/2012 11:39:24 AM PST by Brookhaven (Mitt Romney has been consistent since he changed his mind.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Limbaugh is discussing this again right now, that the media will attack ANY nominee in this way in order to shift focus from Obama.

I suggest we work to nominate Newt or Rick and not focus on mocking any of the republicans.

Rush is also discussing that more people favor Newt over Santorum based on name recognition and electability. All sounds correct to me. It’s not simple and we have to operate within current political reality.


17 posted on 02/01/2012 11:40:14 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: DarthVader

You KNOW Whom I am thanking right now.

Let all that has been concealed
Be revealed.


18 posted on 02/01/2012 11:40:36 AM PST by left that other site
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To: left that other site

romney. Waving his perfumed hanky at his adoring subjects out the window of his luxury carriage.


19 posted on 02/01/2012 11:41:03 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Jay777

Can he buy a lot of votes?
Willy-Boy, Willy-Boy.
Can he buy a lot of votes?
Charming Willy.

He can buy a lot of votes,
In a twinkling of his eye.
But he’s cool shark,
And cannot leave his PAC Men.


20 posted on 02/01/2012 11:41:19 AM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: VanDeKoik

Indeed. I have stopped listening to them both.


21 posted on 02/01/2012 11:41:51 AM PST by left that other site
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To: Jay777

I just knew this comment would cause some pain. LOL! The stupid...it burns!


22 posted on 02/01/2012 11:42:12 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: left that other site

I with you on that!


23 posted on 02/01/2012 11:42:36 AM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: DarthVader
It may very well sink his chance at the nomination.
Yes, whatever it takes. But I wish it could be Willard's conservative opposition that takes him out.
24 posted on 02/01/2012 11:42:39 AM PST by Timaeus (Willard Mitt Romney Delenda Est)
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To: lone star annie
I literally can not stand Rick Santorum. He reminds me of Huckabee. I wish he would pack it in and go home. He is just an angry looking distateful man.

Yes! Exactly. I just can’t get past it. Plus he is an enormous bore.

25 posted on 02/01/2012 11:42:52 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Jay777
This is the guy everyone in the GOP say can beat Obama?

Please......

26 posted on 02/01/2012 11:42:52 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Graewoulf
No matter how they try to gloss over this fake conservative candidate trying to portray him as articulate and a good debater, he is the equal of Biden...open mouth and insert foot time and time again.

I was so pissed last night at the results, I just signed on afternoon, could not bear even discussing this “win”.

27 posted on 02/01/2012 11:42:58 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Brookhaven

Unless I’m mistaken it was Ronald Reagan who relied on the safety net for the poor when proposing free market approaches. Does someone dispute that? Was Reagan supporting the “welfare state”?


28 posted on 02/01/2012 11:43:35 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Brookhaven
Romney needs to take a listen to Col. Allen Wests speech to understand what a real Conservatives position on the safety net should be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFiyjv28Puo

29 posted on 02/01/2012 11:44:12 AM PST by Anti-Hillary (No Jesus, No Peace! Know Jesus, Know Peace!)
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To: Brookhaven
Romney’s mindset seems exactly the same as the Democrats.

The book of Romney opens all by itself, for everyone to read.
30 posted on 02/01/2012 11:45:12 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: Jay777

There are voters who will never vote for one or more of the current 4 Presidential Candidates. Hence, keeping all 4 in weakens support for any one of the Candidates. A weakened Romney will be desperate, and therefore erratic, by the time he gets to Tampa, because he knows that this is his last chance to be Nominated.

My post is based on the assumption that the best way to defeat Romney’s Nomination is to deny him the required delegates BEFORE the Tampa Convention.

Each Candidate has a loyal contingent who will only vote for him, and thus further reduce support for the leading candidate of the moment.

We are taught by the despicable Liberal Agenda Media, (LAM), that two dimensional thinking, ( either-or, yes or no, black or white, etc.), is the best way to think. As usual, the LAM is wrong, because the answer is almost always “None of the Above.”

So here we are in a rip-roaring Presidential Primary with 3 Candidates trying to rock the GOP Establishment Boat, and good ol’ panty waist Willy calling for “Steady as She Goes.”

Will “Safety Net” Willy prevail, and again beach the GOP Establishment Boat on the perilous sands of History?

Will 3 Candidates rock the GOP Establishment Boat enough to dump Milk-Toast Willy into the briny waters outside Tampa Bay?

Those of us that are TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY think that the odds favor having 3 boat-rockers, rather than just having one boat-rocker.


31 posted on 02/01/2012 11:45:30 AM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: All

I’ve known Romney reminded me of someone but couldn’t place it. I now know. Nellie Oleson from Little House on the Prarie. That bet he tried on Perry— Nellie!


32 posted on 02/01/2012 11:45:45 AM PST by Irenic
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To: Timaeus

The conservatives will use it to do it. It is TV-ad material right out of his own trap and current on the campaign trail.


33 posted on 02/01/2012 11:46:42 AM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: riri

Rick Santorum is a sincere consistent God fearing and good conservative man.

Yet you “hate” him.

Is Newt all those things? I mean please what is this hate conservatives bullcrap?


34 posted on 02/01/2012 11:47:39 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Williams

It’s not simple and we have to operate within current political reality.
__________________________________________

Do you ever read what you write ???


35 posted on 02/01/2012 11:50:37 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Married With Children: The TV Show about Romney's Conservative Family)
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To: who knows what evil?

I hope at least he tried to show some outrage.


36 posted on 02/01/2012 11:51:17 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

I had to turn Rush off again. I’ll listen to Levin later. He seems to be the only one willing to expose Romney!


37 posted on 02/01/2012 11:51:30 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Williams

I have tried to like him. I just can not. It’s the Huckabee effect. I have a visceral reaction to them both.


38 posted on 02/01/2012 11:56:32 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Jay777

Yo, Mitt!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lputIMecalw


39 posted on 02/01/2012 11:57:39 AM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: Brookhaven

Exactly!

Romney is a statist at heart. If anyone needed more proof than ORomneycare, this statement is it!


40 posted on 02/01/2012 11:58:43 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: FrankR

Looks like they’ve strapped Mitt to the roof of their car!


41 posted on 02/01/2012 11:59:35 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Brookhaven
Taken in context, he seems to be saying that all we need to do about the poor is provide a safety net.

As opposed to the idea that we should find ways to raise people out of poverty so they can join the middle (or even upper) class.

Romney wants to make sure the poor are comfortable in poverty.

Newt wants to put them to work.

This morning there was a story about the best elementary school in the state as compared to the worst elementary school in the state.

Bottom line: The reporter compared neighborhoods and parental involvement or lack thereof.

Bottom-Bottom Line: As observed by me and the lovely Mrs. N. Theknow: The best school and its students were strongly supported by parents and their property taxes paid for the school. AND...

The other taxes of those same parents of the best school went to pay the housing, food stamps, school lunches, and welfare checks for the parents and students of the worst school.

42 posted on 02/01/2012 11:59:46 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: VanDeKoik
I hope at least he tried to show some outrage.

I'm sure many were convinced.

43 posted on 02/01/2012 12:01:12 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Williams

“Unless I’m mistaken it was Ronald Reagan who relied on the safety net for the poor when proposing free market approaches. Does someone dispute that? Was Reagan supporting the “welfare state”?”

Newt moved beyond Reaganism and abolished AFDC


44 posted on 02/01/2012 12:01:52 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Jay777

Well hell there grubby Mitts, the reason the middle class is in trouble is because we’re paying for all those poor! Geesh!


45 posted on 02/01/2012 12:11:52 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Mouton

I love these long campaigns! Here is a Romney pitch right down the middle to all 3 candidates to hit out of the park. Each will do so in a manner that is meaningful to their base voters.

Newt has the best chance to put his soaring, inspirational brand on this one, enough to reach the General Election base voter.

With 3 candidates hitting this one out of the park, the toll on Romney could be significant, as each Candidate will attack Romney from a slightly different angle. It will be much more effective than if only one candidate attacked Milk-Toast Mitt.

Although Newt is the most capable of the 3, Newt has yet to learn not to be such a crybaby. In similar circumstances, Candidate Reagan used the phrase “there you go again” to great advantage. Newt stubbornly refuses to learn that valuable lesson: a put-down mixed with a good humor smile.

I find poems to be a useful shorthand for complicated topics, as follows:

When Newt is on message,
He can’t be beat.
When he pouts and whines,
Voters recoil and retreat.

“Message, not Money”
The lesson cost dear.
Will Newt remember?
That is not clear - - - -

BTW, if Newt can learn from the election in Florida, he may not lose again.


46 posted on 02/01/2012 12:12:03 PM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: riri; lone star annie
I literally can not stand Rick Santorum. He reminds me of Huckabee. I wish he would pack it in and go home. He is just an angry looking distateful man. Yes! Exactly. I just can’t get past it. Plus he is an enormous bore.

You both nailed it. Santorum has ZERO charisma. He is delusional if he thinks he can excite the people to get behind him.

It doesn't matter how wonderful one's beliefs are, if you don't have the "it" aka charisma, you will not be a leader.

47 posted on 02/01/2012 12:14:50 PM PST by sand88 (Hey Rove et al, I will, with great pleasure, NOT cast a vote for the Statist Mitt.)
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To: FrankR

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48 posted on 02/01/2012 12:16:02 PM PST by sand88 (Hey Rove et al, I will, with great pleasure, NOT cast a vote for the Statist Mitt.)
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49 posted on 02/01/2012 12:18:24 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: KansasGirl
I had to turn Rush off again. I’ll listen to Levin later. He seems to be the only one willing to expose Romney!

I stopped listening after Bloody Thursday. I have no doubt that Rush wants Mitt as the nominee -- I am certain of that.

What did he say this time? Levin is the only one I listen to now. Levin truly cares about our Republic. Levin really took it to Romney and his minions on Tuesday.

50 posted on 02/01/2012 12:19:08 PM PST by sand88 (Hey Rove et al, I will, with great pleasure, NOT cast a vote for the Statist Mitt.)
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