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Oops! FBI uses chain saw on wrong door
MSNBC.com ^ | 2/1/2012 | By NBC News and news services

Posted on 02/01/2012 11:34:20 AM PST by The KG9 Kid

A Massachusetts woman says the FBI used a chain saw blade to cut through her door and held her at gunpoint for at least 30 minutes before agents realized they were conducting a raid at the wrong home.

Judy Sanchez, of Fitchburg, says she awoke to heavy footsteps in the stairwell on Jan. 26 and walked into her kitchen in time to see a blade chop through her door.

"I took two steps, face the second door, and I heard the click of a gun, and saying, ‘FBI, get down,’ so I laid down on my living room floor,” Sanchez told WHDH.com. "I was screaming, ‘You have the wrong apartment, you have the wrong apartment,’ over fifty times. And then I seen the big blade coming down my door."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: fbi; govtabuse; rapeofliberty; swat; swatabuse; tyranny; whoops
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Whoopy-doodle! Tee-hee, sorry about F'ing up your door and terrorizing the S out of you and your daughter. We'll pay for the door.
1 posted on 02/01/2012 11:34:22 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: SmithL; Eyes Unclouded; Rodney King; Redcitizen; ellery; dcwusmc; Forgotten Amendments; ...
"Whoops... Sorry, citizen. We thought you were someone else" PING

Click the link to be added to the "Whoops. Sorry, citizen. We thought you were someone else" PING list.

2 posted on 02/01/2012 11:35:07 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: LevinFan

You’re added to the “Whoops... Sorry, citizen. We thought you were someone else” PING list.


3 posted on 02/01/2012 11:36:11 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid

A baseball bat? That’s really going to do her a lot of good.


4 posted on 02/01/2012 11:38:04 AM PST by Truth29
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To: The KG9 Kid

No one was hurt, and both g-men and citizen had a good training exercise. So that’s all right then.


5 posted on 02/01/2012 11:40:00 AM PST by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: Truth29

Didn’t intelligence tell them that the monster Elian Gonzales was back in Kuba


6 posted on 02/01/2012 11:40:00 AM PST by shadeaud ( “Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8”. Just doing my duty a Christian)
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To: The KG9 Kid

No dogs shot, so overall it was an unsuccessful raid.


7 posted on 02/01/2012 11:40:43 AM PST by deadrock
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To: The KG9 Kid
And then I seen the big blade coming down my door."

The FBI should have turned this oops into a win by checking Ms. Sanchez' legal status.

8 posted on 02/01/2012 11:45:06 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: The KG9 Kid
How come law enforcement clowns constantly pull this crap of raiding the wrong dwelling, but the UPS guy always delivers to the right address? As usual, no one will lose their job over this outrageous blunder.


9 posted on 02/01/2012 11:45:06 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

We’ll compensate by shooting some other neighbor’s dog for no reason.


10 posted on 02/01/2012 11:45:30 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: The KG9 Kid

Good thing they had no dogs!


11 posted on 02/01/2012 11:48:58 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Lazlo in PA
How come law enforcement clowns constantly pull this crap of raiding the wrong dwelling, but the UPS guy always delivers to the right address? As usual, no one will lose their job over this outrageous blunder.

As usual, no one will lose their job over this outrageous blunder. - and there's your answer. Why would they ever change from the current practice if there's reason to do so? Where's the 'ROI'?

12 posted on 02/01/2012 11:52:02 AM PST by NativeSon
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To: The KG9 Kid

So what would’ve happened if a law-abiding citizen exercised their right to self-defense and opened fire on whoever it was that was USING A CHAINSAW to break into their home at 3am in the morning?

I see these stories every so often (and wonder about the stories that you KNOW get covered up) and I’m waiting to hear something like this:

(UPI) San Diego, California. San Diego police report the deaths of twelve armed Federal agents who early this morning attempted to dynamically enter the home of GySgt. Robert Smith. Smith, a twenty year veteran of an undisclosed SEAL team, reported that he was awakened at 3am by the sound of heavy footsteps on his porch. When he heard the sound of a chainsaw being used on his front door he said he took defensive action with his two legally owned .45 caliber automatic handguns. Investigators report that Smith fired thirteen times at the Federal agents who were trying to arrest a suspected drug dealer at a similar address in San Dimas but came to Smith’s house in San Diego by mistake.
The District Attorney’s office says that no charges will be filed against Smith who was “clearly just defending himself”. Federal agents who later tried to take Smith into custody were rebuffed by San Diego police officers and Marine Corps personnel.
There was no comment from the Federal agency responsible for mistakenly sending the twelve agents to Smith’s home outside of that Smith’s door would be replaced.


13 posted on 02/01/2012 11:55:20 AM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

14 posted on 02/01/2012 11:56:25 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: The KG9 Kid
It turns out agents were after the other tenant on the floor of the multi-unit building who was suspected of dealing drugs. The raid was called Operation Red Wolf, a two-year investigation into drugs and weapons, ....
TWO YEARS and they can't even get the correct apartment of the 'bad guy'? Bang up job there guys!!

Oh well, on the upside -- The agents got to play soldier, and no dogs or other pets were needlessly killed. Or any unarmed women or babies shot while standing in a doorway by the Feebs cracker-jack Snipers.

Under Hoover heads would roll for screw-ups like this.
Not now. Now someone will get a promotion.

15 posted on 02/01/2012 12:00:45 PM PST by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Uh....why a chainsaw?


16 posted on 02/01/2012 12:02:11 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum
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To: MeganC

I wish I had a legally owned 45 caliber automatic handgun.


17 posted on 02/01/2012 12:02:30 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: ColdOne
Good thing they had no dogs!

She had a 3 month old pitbull puppy who was so scared it pissed on the floor.

18 posted on 02/01/2012 12:03:49 PM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: Focault's Pendulum
If you have enough locks on the handle side of the door a ram wont open it, however if you saw right down the midddle it opens in 5 seconds.

Doesnt work if there is a bar across the door. but you can cut away half the door.

19 posted on 02/01/2012 12:05:31 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: The KG9 Kid
Whoopy-doodle! Tee-hee, sorry about F'ing up your door and terrorizing the S out of you and your daughter. We'll pay for the door.

That would be unusual.

20 posted on 02/01/2012 12:05:31 PM PST by Drew68
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To: The KG9 Kid

Don’t worry! It’s just Leatherface saying, “Here’s Johnny!”.


21 posted on 02/01/2012 12:08:49 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: MeganC

What would happen if a law-abiding citizen took out one or more JBTs who were raiding the wrong address and lived to tell about it?


22 posted on 02/01/2012 12:10:41 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: The KG9 Kid

The War on Drugs has managed to turn both Mexico AND the US into terror states. Quite the twofer.


23 posted on 02/01/2012 12:11:34 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: The KG9 Kid

I hope she didn’t have a dog.


24 posted on 02/01/2012 12:11:44 PM PST by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.....I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

ClintBilly sez: "We got this one right!"

25 posted on 02/01/2012 12:11:44 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: The KG9 Kid
The FBI’s elite strike team uses a chainsaw on the front door of the wrong address and hold Ms. Sanchez and her 3-year old daughter at gunpoint for 30 minutes? And these guys are PROFESSIONALS? Sounds like a very bad Mack Sennet “Keystone Kops” episode.

BTW, did they shoot her dog to make her appreciate these government-paid thugs more? OK — Sanchez doesn't have one. Pity, she didn't have one because she needs to be reminded who's in-charge. I wonder what was done to secure Ms. Sanchez’ home after the door was destroyed and how soon? Who will pay for it? Can Sanchez sue the buggers? Oh, silly me!

26 posted on 02/01/2012 12:12:22 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: ColdOne; maine yankee; DEADROCK

Ah...I see we’re all sharing the same brain today.

:)


27 posted on 02/01/2012 12:13:29 PM PST by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.....I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Dramatic effect.


28 posted on 02/01/2012 12:14:50 PM PST by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.....I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.)
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To: I Drive Too Fast

Is the puppy still alive?

If so, they’re really getting sloppy.


29 posted on 02/01/2012 12:16:13 PM PST by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.....I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.)
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To: DainBramage

I love my steel doors.


30 posted on 02/01/2012 12:17:27 PM PST by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.....I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I'm sure that since the US Supreme Court has ruled that since the FBI *thought* that they were going to the right address, their raid was legitimate. Even though they didn't raid the right address, they *intended* to.

Therefore, if you defend your castle and slay one of them with a weapon, you're guilty of deliberately killing a Federal agent.

I am sure that Eric Holder will spare your life, but you'll go to prison and be ruined anyway.

In modern America, it is up to the private citizen to determine if the masked men carrying weapons into your domicile aren't law enforcement officers before defending your family. It sucks, but that's the way it is.

We need to end these 'no-knock' paramilitary raids by law enforcement all over the nation and tell law enforcement agencies this directive: "If you have a warrant to scoop someone up for drugs, do it in broad daylight with your service uniform on. If you're afraid of getting killed doing it this way, then find another line of work because law enforcement just isn't for you."

31 posted on 02/01/2012 12:18:50 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: MasterGunner01

What happens if they break in and all you have is an attack parakeet or killer gerbil?

Do they shoot or stomp?


32 posted on 02/01/2012 12:19:22 PM PST by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.....I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.)
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To: DainBramage

The Colt 1911 which is still popular with the military has been officially called “Automatic Pistol, Caliber .45, M1911A1” since 1924.

Yes, I know it is a semi-auto but the correct designation of this particular pistol remains as “.45 automatic”.


33 posted on 02/01/2012 12:21:40 PM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum
Uh....why a chainsaw?

Duh! Because they have one they bought as a cool toy a while back and they need to justify the expense.

34 posted on 02/01/2012 12:22:58 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: The KG9 Kid

The Federal Bureau of Incompetents strikes again using horrendously bad intelligence. The incompetents had Vasquez under surveillance. They knew he lived in one of the four apartments in the building. They also knew he went into the building and did not leave the building before the raid was launched. They picked the wrong aparment and then kept asking the occupant of the apartment where Vasquez was. She kept responding she did not know. They never bothered to ask if he lived there. They then pulled out scratching their collective noggins (or scrota, depending on which was closer to their brains) wondering how Vasquez got out of the building with being seen.

Turns out Vasquez left his apartment hours later after being certain the incompetents had pulled the plug on the surveillance of the building because they were convinced they had the right apartment and he had somehow escaped.

It was not until the next day when a reporter for the Fitchburg Sentinel and Enterprise reported that they were at the wrong apartment that the Federal Bureau of Incompetents had any inkling that they were at the right building but in the wrong apartment and that they had let Vasquez escape.

Now with the FBI’s history in the Boston area, the question is: Did one of the people in the FBI purposely get a warrent for Apartment 2R instead of Apartment 2F since he or she wanted to protect Vasquez in the same way that the FBI protected James “Whitey” Bulger for 30 years?


35 posted on 02/01/2012 12:22:59 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Romney ruined Massachusetts. Now he wants to ruin the nation.)
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Oops! FBI uses chain saw on wrong door

So there really is a use for the Tactical Chainsaw Picatinny Rail Mount Accessory.


36 posted on 02/01/2012 12:25:02 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Interesting.


37 posted on 02/01/2012 12:25:26 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Salamander

From the link I saw, the puppy was still alive.


38 posted on 02/01/2012 12:27:21 PM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: DainBramage

You don’t have to wish, all you have to have is money. Of course in many areas of the country you have to go to a lot of trouble and jump through a few hoops, but I looked and your from Texas.


39 posted on 02/01/2012 12:28:26 PM PST by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: Salamander

I think a parakeet, hamster or gerbil would fall into the same “not likely to bite” catagory as a kitten and be stomped.


40 posted on 02/01/2012 12:36:20 PM PST by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: duffee

I guess I could have one made.


41 posted on 02/01/2012 12:36:20 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: Salamander
I love my steel doors.

One word: C-4 (well one letter, a dash, and one number)

Under der 0baerFuhrer Emperor Hussein 0bama, the die Polizei will be seizing malcontents for re-indoctrination. Resistance is futile.

42 posted on 02/01/2012 12:42:58 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: MeganC

Yep. Automatic ‘loading’ was the key, not automatic ‘firing’ back then. Still is. Some still don’t know that evidently. I legally own quite a few ‘automatic’ .45’s.


43 posted on 02/01/2012 12:44:28 PM PST by bobby.223 (A)
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To: I Drive Too Fast
From the link I saw, the puppy was still alive.

Since they already had the chainsaw handy, he was neutered for the owner at no additional cost.

44 posted on 02/01/2012 12:45:20 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: I Drive Too Fast

Gee.

I guess somebody didn’t take their ‘roids that day.


45 posted on 02/01/2012 12:48:13 PM PST by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.....I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Drug War Victims

Sadly, this list needs to be updated.

46 posted on 02/01/2012 12:49:50 PM PST by Sarajevo (Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental)
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To: MeganC
So what would’ve happened if a law-abiding citizen exercised their right to self-defense and opened fire on whoever it was that was USING A CHAINSAW to break into their home at 3am in the morning? This happens: http://abcnews.go.com/US/tucson-swat-team-defends-shooting-iraq-marine-veteran/story?id=13640112#.TymihoFxTms
47 posted on 02/01/2012 12:50:48 PM PST by JerseyanExile
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To: MeganC
GySgt. Robert Smith. Smith, a twenty year veteran of an undisclosed SEAL team,

Uh, if he's a GySgt, he would be a Marine. SEALs are Navy. ;)

48 posted on 02/01/2012 12:51:28 PM PST by Sarajevo (Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental)
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To: duffee

Ah, well.

That ‘gentler’ approach *does* minimize the ‘collateral damage’ factor for any small children in the area....unless they happen to be holding the vicious parakeet/gerbil/hamster.


49 posted on 02/01/2012 12:52:04 PM PST by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.....I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

True but as I mentioned before, I can watch my front door from where I sit, and they have to get through *two* steel doors to get where I am.

The whole “shock and awe/element of surprise” factor becomes totally moot in the 5-10 minutes they’d need to accomplish all that.

I guess they could go for broke and just fire a rocket into the side of the house.

FYI, I have no intention of ever being “seized”.

I much prefer the alternative.


50 posted on 02/01/2012 12:57:32 PM PST by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.....I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.)
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