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Family of murdered Border Patrol agent files $25M suit against ATF
Fox News.com ^ | February 1, 2012

Posted on 02/01/2012 3:58:57 PM PST by Kaslin

The family of murdered Border Patrol agent Brian Terry has filed a $25 million wrongful death suit against the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives -- claiming Terry was killed with AK-47s that were knowingly sold under the Fast and Furious gunrunning probe to a straw purchaser for drug cartels.

In a 65-page complaint, attorneys for the family claim ATF "wrongdoing" in Fast and Furious.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; brianterry; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; lonewolf; lonewolftrading; obama; terry

1 posted on 02/01/2012 3:59:03 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

^_^

hahahhahahah...!

Good for them! Ah man, discovery is going to be SOOOO much fun..!!


2 posted on 02/01/2012 4:02:41 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Kaslin
If law enforcement and those who should be watching over it do not do their jobs, can the Civil Suits be far behind?
3 posted on 02/01/2012 4:02:59 PM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: windcliff; onedoug

ping


4 posted on 02/01/2012 4:04:21 PM PST by stylecouncilor (Some minds are like soup in a poor restaurant...better left unstirred.-PG Wodehouse)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe this will finally wake up the media to the scheming, crooked, bastards in DC.


5 posted on 02/01/2012 4:05:11 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Kaslin

I rarely approve of these lawsuits, but in this case I’m on the side of the family. This isn’t some “strict liability” frivolous lawsuit. It’s a case of shockingly reckless conduct by government agents acting in their official capacity under orders from the highest level of our government. Yes, we should pay, and it should be a national scandal. Obama disgusts me, whether he gave specific orders for Fast and Furious or just set the tone and managed so ineptly that this happened.


6 posted on 02/01/2012 4:05:29 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Kaslin

Unfortunately, the Gubmint will offer some settlement out of Taxpayer’s Money, whereas, I would like to see the Muzzie-in-Chief AND Holder have a Judgement from their OWN POCKETS to fund it......but, since it’s other-people’s-money (aka, the Taxpayer), they will settle for multi-millions to avoid Discovery.


7 posted on 02/01/2012 4:05:51 PM PST by traditional1 (Stay thirsty, my friends.)
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To: gaijin

I’ll bet on an out of court settlement around 10 million before discovery begins..too many people would have to take the 5th.


8 posted on 02/01/2012 4:05:51 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: traditional1

split second difference!


9 posted on 02/01/2012 4:07:15 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Kaslin
Family of murdered Border Patrol agent files $25M suit against ATF

Oh come on!

Their budget must be bigger than $25 Million.

10 posted on 02/01/2012 4:07:58 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: MestaMachine

ping


11 posted on 02/01/2012 4:10:39 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Kaslin
now, find a judge who's not afraid to hear it
12 posted on 02/01/2012 4:11:24 PM PST by drypowder
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To: Kaslin
Including Holder, I hope.

vaudine

13 posted on 02/01/2012 4:14:04 PM PST by vaudine
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To: rolling_stone

Yeah; I saw that when I looked at my post.


14 posted on 02/01/2012 4:15:45 PM PST by traditional1 (Stay thirsty, my friends.)
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To: Cobra64

I would not hold my breath...... The media will probably do a few dozen hit pieces on the family to protect the messiah personal bought and paid protection (holder)


15 posted on 02/01/2012 4:16:10 PM PST by Popman (Obama is God's curse upon the land....)
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To: traditional1
Unfortunately, the Gubmint will offer some settlement out of Taxpayer’s Money, whereas, I would like to see the Muzzie-in-Chief AND Holder have a Judgement from their OWN POCKETS to fund it......but, since it’s other-people’s-money (aka, the Taxpayer), they will settle for multi-millions to avoid Discovery.

I hope the Terry family has a stiffer set of collective spines than that, and I'm betting that they do. It takes two parties to settle.

16 posted on 02/01/2012 4:27:36 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Why, yes. I AM in a bad mood.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I do not think that the Terry family cares one iota for the money - they want the people who caused the death of Brian to be held accountable for their actions. I seriously doubt they will “settle” until that happens!


17 posted on 02/01/2012 4:38:29 PM PST by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know who holds the future!)
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To: Cobra64

The media are mostly far-left kool aid drinkers waiting for the second coming of Karl Marx. They will do everything they can to keep it from the American people. Today’s American Thinker did an article about the neglect of the msm in reporting this scandal. They have ignored it hoping to protect their messiah Obama. The more that I see of the msm the more it makes me think of that old proverb...”If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one to hear, does it make a sound?”


18 posted on 02/01/2012 4:40:54 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: traditional1

Too bad that this lawsuit will not happen before the election. What a great opportunity for some citizens’ group to splash this scandal all over the media.


19 posted on 02/01/2012 4:43:41 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Kaslin

Yeah, Baybeeee!


20 posted on 02/01/2012 4:43:52 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: Kaslin
D I S C O V E R Y!!!!!

That's what led to Clinton's impeachment.

21 posted on 02/01/2012 4:44:24 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: traditional1
Unfortunately, the Gubmint will offer some settlement out of Taxpayer’s Money, whereas, I would like to see the Muzzie-in-Chief AND Holder have a Judgement from their OWN POCKETS to fund it...

The usual practice is that, if a civil servant committed a crime in the process of inflicting injury, he or she is personally liable.

$25 mil would just about take Zero to ZERO.

22 posted on 02/01/2012 5:15:58 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: rolling_stone

If so, we’ve got a pattern of behavior here - in both the eligibility issue and F&F the pattern is to do whatever it takes to keep the evidence from being seen, heard, and decided using legal standards of evidence and due process.

Soros and everybody in his puppet regime despise the rule of law. Always have, always will. And it’s becoming increasingly difficult for the general public to ignore that fact. The only way a person doesn’t realize what’s going on here is by willful ignorance. Aided and abetted by a willfully-ignorant media.


23 posted on 02/01/2012 5:36:45 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Colonel_Flagg

And suing the Lone Wolf company that sold the gun means that even if the government would fork over our money to quiet the issue, the business owner might not be quite so ready to do that if settlement would send them into bankruptcy. Isn’t that the guy who recorded the phone call with one of the government people to show their knowledge and involvement? If they basically threatened or forced him into selling the guns illegally, then he will be highly motivated to get that story and the evidence of it out there.

Makes me think of Obama saying they’re going to investigate the sub-prime lending. The banks that were otherwise responsible gave subprime loans because the feds said they had to and folks like attorney Barack Obama in Chicago were breathing down the banks’ necks to make sure they did it. Bet that doesn’t come out in anything the Dept of Injustice reports though...


24 posted on 02/01/2012 5:51:58 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Kaslin

Good for them! Their son was shot by his employer - his own government. There is not enough money to make this right, but I hope the family gets some satisfaction from their lawsuit.


25 posted on 02/01/2012 5:53:38 PM PST by abclily
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To: butterdezillion

Not an attorney, but wouldn’t a slick attorney try to get Lone Wolf removed as a defendant on that basis?


26 posted on 02/01/2012 5:58:49 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Why, yes. I AM in a bad mood.)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...
YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!

Pingggg.

27 posted on 02/01/2012 5:59:28 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Kaslin

It’s not enough. Not nearly enough. But it’s a start and THIS will be hard to ignore.


28 posted on 02/01/2012 6:02:06 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: traditional1

I don’t think the Terry family will accept a settlement no matter how big it is. They want to know what happened to their son. They want the truth out there. That is the point of the suit.


29 posted on 02/01/2012 6:06:25 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Either way, the Terry family would have the Lone Wolf folks airing facts/evidence against the government. It’s sort of like pitting two primary candidates against each other; when only one or the other will be left standing at the end you can get a lot of dirty laundry out into the open. lol


30 posted on 02/01/2012 6:08:48 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: traditional1
they will settle for multi-millions to avoid Discovery.

To which the family should instruct their attorney to reply, "Go piss up a rope and make sure you show up for this court case."

31 posted on 02/01/2012 6:18:39 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Do all He commands. Receive all He promises.)
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To: cradle of freedom
"If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one to hear, does it make a sound?”

No.

32 posted on 02/01/2012 6:20:20 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Do all He commands. Receive all He promises.)
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To: Kaslin
There is reason to believe that Agent Terry's BORTAC team knew nothing about the rip crew and the rip crew knew nothing in advance about Agent Terry's team.

FBI Criminal Informant Complicit in Brian Terry’s Death (PJM Exclusive)

Previously, Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s death in Peck Canyon, Arizona was described as a chance meeting that led to a firefight: an illegal alien “rip crew” working for the Sinaloa cartel was hoping to find other illegal aliens and to rob them at gunpoint. Instead, they stumbled across a Border Patrol unit and murdered Agent Terry.

Last week, the Washington Times offered a new version of the encounter: they reported that the rip crew was not hunting illegals, but Border Patrol teams — with the intention of engaging them in combat.

Sources now tell PJ Media that neither version of events is accurate: the rip crew was not waiting for a chance encounter with other illegals, nor did the members intend to engage American law enforcement agents.

The rip crew was in Peck Canyon that evening with the intention of stealing money and drugs from a specific shipment of which they had prior knowledge.

(snip)

The rip crew knew to be in Peck Canyon that December evening because a CI working for the FBI found out about a smuggling run — from the FBI.

(snip)

A source tells PJM that the FBI knew from wiretaps that the CI was using their information to set up an ambush. The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) — through its own CIs and communications intercepts — was also aware of the planned assault. Neither the DEA nor FBI warned Border Patrol about the expected criminal activity.

(snip)

Multiple sources tell PJM that this third weapon “disappeared” because it was the weapon carried by the FBI CI who ran the rip crew. When it was recovered near the scene of the murder and subsequently traced by the ATF, it traced back to the FBI CI via the gun shop in Texas where it was purchased.

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Neither agency bothered to warn Border Patrol to keep their BORTAC teams out of Peck Canyon that evening. As a direct result of this FBI and DEA failure — combined with Homeland Security forcing BORTAC units to carry less-lethal beanbag rounds in some of their primary weapons — Brian Terry’s under-armed four-man unit walked into an ambush against a heavily armed rip crew, at least five of whom were carrying rifles.

Brian Terry’s murder was entirely preventable. The incompetence of the DEA and FBI let his Border Patrol unit walk into an ambush. After the ambush, it appears the FBI tampered with evidence to cover up that one of their informants was involved with the murder of a federal agent.


33 posted on 02/01/2012 6:26:15 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: butterdezillion
Either way, the Terry family would have the Lone Wolf folks airing facts/evidence against the government.

Bingo! Lone Wolf's lawyer/s will use their forced participation as their primary defense. That will get publicity and open up a lot of ATF/DOJ files for discovery.

Next the families of the hundreds of Mexican citizens killed by F&F guns should file their own lawsuits.

34 posted on 02/01/2012 6:44:09 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Kaslin

Holder, DOJ and ATF and Co. will just “borrow” the $25 from Chinese investors to avoid the discovery process.

After all, what’s $25 million when the annual deficit is over $1 TRILLION and the national debt is quickly closing in on $16 TRILLION?!?

$25 million is just a quick pi$$ in the ocean ...


35 posted on 02/01/2012 6:51:01 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: cradle of freedom

Why can’t it happen before the election?


36 posted on 02/01/2012 7:09:20 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Kaslin

Should have asked for more.


37 posted on 02/01/2012 10:11:00 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: VikingMom

I thought I saw his widow on TV recently claiming that SHE WILL NEVER SETTLE and wants EVERY LAST PERSON INVOLVED DEPOSED on ON THE WITNESS STAND, this was a couple weeks ago.


38 posted on 02/02/2012 5:15:42 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: TASMANIANRED

Yeah, like $25 billion


39 posted on 02/02/2012 5:47:19 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Awesome! Best hopes for this to win in court. I’d add the DOJ to the list and they could probably pitch in another 25M.


40 posted on 02/02/2012 6:42:41 AM PST by veracious
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To: eyeamok

Might have been his mother or his sister. I don’t believe that Brian Terry was married.

I know if it were my son, there is no amount of money that would make me stop asking questions. It’s not a matter of revenge but justice.


41 posted on 02/02/2012 7:03:27 AM PST by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know who holds the future!)
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To: MestaMachine

YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!


42 posted on 02/02/2012 8:35:44 AM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: little jeremiah

I suppose it could, but it usually takes many months for a lawsuit to get to court.


43 posted on 02/02/2012 3:39:27 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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