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Students ask UC: Why armed cops on campus?
SFGate.com ^ | 2/1/12 | Nanette Asimov

Posted on 02/01/2012 4:46:34 PM PST by NormsRevenge

BERKELEY -- Why in the world does the University of California employ an armed police force on its campuses?

That question, and the anger implied in its wording, was asked repeatedly Wednesday night by UC Berkeley students and faculty of top UC brass. Berkeley was a whistlestop on their tour of campuses before they prepare UC's official response to the use of batons and pepper-spray against peaceful protesters last November.

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Everyone sat in concentric circles waiting for the chance to influence recommendations being prepared on behalf of the university system by Charles Robinson, UC's general counsel, and Chris Edley, dean of the UC Berkeley Law School.

Reports in the works

Their report, due in March, is one of three forthcoming from UC to publicly address what is widely perceived as excessive, even brutal responses to students' acts of civil disobedience against rising tuition and rising executive pay at a time of deep cuts to higher education.

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Robinson and Edley said their report won't be investigative like the others. Instead they are visiting campuses, listening to students and faculty, ..

Perhaps the most-applauded suggestion Wednesday night came from Anant Sahai, a professor of electrical engineering and computer science, who said campuses should call on trained mediators instead of police during tense student protests.

"Students want to be engaged in a sincere, substantive dialogue," Sahai said into the microphone. "The role of the mediators should be to facilitate this conversation."

"Great idea," Edley said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: armed; banglist; berkeley; campus; cops; students
Sometimes it's hard to distinguish between insane asylums and institutions of "higher" learning.. UC Berzerkley comes to mind
1 posted on 02/01/2012 4:46:37 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

That would be because you are prey animals and Oakland is next door.


2 posted on 02/01/2012 4:52:20 PM PST by heartwood
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To: NormsRevenge

When I was attending UC Berkeley (20 years ago), a young man was raped by a homeless, stoned, crazy person in the Law School. I think the armed cops are a necessity.


3 posted on 02/01/2012 4:59:47 PM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh, yes. I am being raped by a drugged out campus protester and I want a trained conflict facilitator to handle the negotiation instead of an armed cop. Oh, yes I do. Really. sarc/off


4 posted on 02/01/2012 5:01:38 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: NormsRevenge

My response to that question would have been, “The reason why they are armed is that you would be asking why they weren’t armed, if somebody who is armed were to come on campus and start murdering people.”

How is it that a person, qualified to go to a post-secondary institution, cannot foresee the possible consequences of their actions?


5 posted on 02/01/2012 5:04:05 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Great idea," Edley said.

LOL, of course it's a "great idea." You really think he's going to say anything else? This is politically correct warfare - they ain't going to be no disagreements. Just smile, nod, smile, nod, smile, nod, smile, nod... like a croc doing a death roll.

6 posted on 02/01/2012 5:06:03 PM PST by Talisker (Apology accepted, Captain Needa.)
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To: married21

And, I was attending Berkeley 50+ years ago. The police were feared, but respected. Feared because somebody in the crowd might have alcohol, but respected because we knew the police were there for our protection. Then the hippies poured in from NY and Chicago and upset the applecart. It’s never been the same since, and it’s never had the same high academic standing either.


7 posted on 02/01/2012 5:06:30 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: NormsRevenge
"Students want to be engaged in a sincere, substantive dialogue," Sahai said into the microphone. "The role of the mediators should be to facilitate this conversation."

The most singularly stupid thing I've heard today. This batch of sheep deserve everything they get.

8 posted on 02/01/2012 5:16:20 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: NormsRevenge

The real answer is found next door in Oakland.....


9 posted on 02/01/2012 5:22:16 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: married21

Given how stupid and evil cops are these days and how unaccountable management is for them when they abuse power, I think it is time to discuss removing non-leathal weapons and swat teams from the mix.


10 posted on 02/01/2012 5:22:35 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: NormsRevenge

riots, destruction of property, breaking and entering, blocking access to buildings... this is called peaceful. lol.


11 posted on 02/01/2012 5:30:13 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: NormsRevenge
Students ask UC: Why armed cops on campus?

Because, geniuses, a significant percentage of the professional students, with useless majors, have the character, morals and ethics indistinguishable from the typical rap fan or homeboy, and a corresponding respect for life.

12 posted on 02/01/2012 6:28:00 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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Because there are a few scum bags amoung the rest of you limp-wristed, pear shaped girly-boys who will kick your @$$ and take your lunch money.....and mommy is not here to defend you.


13 posted on 02/01/2012 6:30:45 PM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Why in the world does the University of California employ an armed police force on its campuses?”

I suspect because even the police there have to step off campus once in a while...


14 posted on 02/01/2012 6:49:01 PM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Newt will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: NormsRevenge

The cops are armed just in case a criminal does not stop when the cops just offer him a doughnut. If it's a violent criminal, a slow response to the facilitator's dialogue could be unfortunate.

15 posted on 02/01/2012 6:51:01 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: NormsRevenge
because for some strange reason, they feel you dumbazz is worth protecting... though why is beyond me
16 posted on 02/01/2012 6:56:20 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
because for some strange reason, they feel you dumbazz is worth protecting... though why is beyond me

Finally, a lucid response.

17 posted on 02/01/2012 7:19:29 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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0maba voters... just damn
18 posted on 02/01/2012 7:29:33 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: NormsRevenge
Students ask UC: Why armed cops on campus?

Two words: "Virginia Tech."

19 posted on 02/01/2012 7:38:01 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Perhaps the campus police chief should show them this and tell them it's an intelligence test:


20 posted on 02/01/2012 7:41:21 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

“The most singularly stupid thing I’ve heard today.”

He’s an engineer ...glad he does not design bridges or airplanes;)


21 posted on 02/01/2012 8:22:36 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: NormsRevenge

Why children, we have security to protect you and your visitors while here on campus. You wouldn’t want your grandmother to be harmed while she was here to visit you, would you???There are evil Republicans living in this state, not real many, but still a threat. We are committed to protect you from all danger (especially the truth!)


22 posted on 02/01/2012 8:28:41 PM PST by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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