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Obama Got Served
American Thinker ^ | February 1, 2012 | Cindy Simpson

Posted on 02/01/2012 7:17:02 PM PST by Sallyven

[snip]...Jablonski remained true to his word -- neither he nor Obama showed up for the January 26 hearing. I noted last week that Obama was not scheduled to be anywhere near Atlanta on the date of the hearing, although I had wondered if still, perhaps, Georgia might be on his mind. According to reports in the blogosphere, the president's schedule on the morning of the 26th was open, and according to an unnamed source, Obama watched the live feed of the hearings.

Perhaps Obama, as well as the several mainstream media news outlets I spotted at the hearing, were merely watching in hopes that the "crazy birthers" would really do something...well, crazy. Or unlawful. In fact, though, it was the president himself and his defense team who were the ones defying the rule of law.

The mainstream media, in lockstep with Obama, reported nothing of the events, in a stunning blackout on a truly historic hearing -- one that discussed the eligibility of a sitting president to run for a second term. And more troubling was the fact that the media failed to acknowledge the even more sensational news -- that the president and his defense attorney snubbed an official subpoena.

Today, Attorney Van Irion, on behalf of his client, Georgia resident David Welden, filed a "Motion for Finding of Contempt" with Judge Malihi...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Georgia
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
That's right. Any form of citizenship that is provided for via statute enacted by men can be revoked or bestowed as the laws change. There is one type of citizenship however, that cannot be bestowed or revoked by statute, and that is natural born citizenship: A person born on US soil to parentS who are themselves citizens. They are citizens by virtue of Natural Law and such their citizenship status cannot be created or nullified by any legal contrivance of man. They just are.

This is exactly one of the major points of Sourcery's essay that I seized upon. It is exactly right. Congress cannot bestow that which is inherent. It is exactly like eye or hair color, it is an inherent trait of the person. That it exactly resembles genetic characteristics is no accident because it is imparted in the same manner; From Parents to offspring. I am glad that more of us are seeing this so clearly.

301 posted on 02/02/2012 7:15:23 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: cracker45

The founders also gave exception to those who were already alive at the founding of the nation. So your argument is ridiculous.

302 posted on 02/02/2012 7:29:04 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Kansas58
I could give a rip where in Hell this fraud was born and to whom. But,

Can somebody just please tell me definatively what THE FREAKING HELL HIS REAL NAME IS?

303 posted on 02/02/2012 7:30:40 AM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: Future Useless Eater

What is taking so long?

The judge said he was going to give them a summary decision that morning, but they insisted on submitting evidence...

OK, I am glad it got, I am (not so0 cshocked that NO ONE in the media even ccovered this story...

So.. I think now the judge is going to become nationally famous- or is there some serious arm twisting going on right now?

Are they holding his kids hostage or something? Late night phone calls telling him what his children wore to school that morning? (I got one of those when I tried to expose local corruption)

304 posted on 02/02/2012 7:32:39 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Kansas58
Rubio is qualified -— Rubio was a citizen at birth.

'Citizen' isn't good enough. You have to be a Natural Born Citizen to be president (or VP). There's apparently still a question whether Rubio is one, or not.

305 posted on 02/02/2012 7:36:02 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rfreedom4u

Yes, the VP must just as eligible as the President.

306 posted on 02/02/2012 7:39:31 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: nuconvert; Sallyven; Future Useless Eater

Originally the judge asked for all submissions to be in by the 6th of Feb. He moved that up to the 1st, hence the confusion.

307 posted on 02/02/2012 7:40:13 AM PST by GregNH (I will continue to do whatever it takes, my grandchildren are depending on me....)
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To: GingisK
You still don't get it, do you?
Your “research” is all wasted time, as your “case law” is MOOT now, due to Congressional action on Citizenship issues.
308 posted on 02/02/2012 7:44:37 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: edge919

Read the citation you gave me.

Then read everything I have posted on this thread.

Have I ever “doubted” that a person born in this country, of citizen parents, was a Natural Born Citizen?

No, I have not.

I only present to you that your citation, due to the rules of the English Language, are not exclusive.

I am telling you that your “Case Law” which is now moot, anyway, does not LIMIT NBC to such cases at all, does it?

Your citation clearly allows for other forms of Natural Born Citizenship.

309 posted on 02/02/2012 7:50:02 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: afraidfortherepublic

You are wrong.

310 posted on 02/02/2012 7:51:58 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: SF_Redux

Marco was born in the USA.
Arnold was not born in the USA.

Big difference.

311 posted on 02/02/2012 7:54:07 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: nuconvert

“I thought the judge was supposed to render his decision by Feb 1st?”

The 2/1 date was the deadline for filing any post trial pleadings.

312 posted on 02/02/2012 7:56:45 AM PST by Elderberry
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To: SvenMagnussen
You are clearly wrong.
Congress has the power, and has used the power, to define Citizenship several times.
This power is a logical extension of this fact:

How can you define “Naturalization” if you are not sure of who NEEDS a Naturalization process and who does not need such a process, due to automatic Citizenship?

Besides, no Court case has ever challenged the right of Congress to define Citizenship, and Congress also has the power to interpret and define the 14th Amendment.

313 posted on 02/02/2012 7:57:47 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

You have no Case Law to support your odd theories.

The Case Law you present is now MOOT due to Congressional action.

The Case Law you present also states, clearly in each decision, that the Constitution did NOT define Natural Born Citizen, so the Judge(s) had to resort to Natural Law or Common Law.

Congress has since defined and redefined Citizenship, as Congress clearly has the power to do.

314 posted on 02/02/2012 8:03:32 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: righttackle44


315 posted on 02/02/2012 8:04:19 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: bushpilot1
prove Wikipedia wrong.

My point is that Congress HAS changed Citizenship requirements, for those born on foreign soil, several times.

I have strong support for that position, as it is a FACT, and many of the nutty Birthers on this thread denied that FACT.

316 posted on 02/02/2012 8:06:29 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
I only present to you that your citation, due to the rules of the English Language, are not exclusive.

You don't seem to understand the rules of English. These "rules" are what makes the definition exclusive. The other thing that makes the definition exclusive is the context of why the definition was given. There's no point in singling out citizen parents unless it establishes a completely separate class of citizens — separate from the 14th amendment upon which Virginia Minor made her claim to citizenship — which is what the court did. That separate class was the ONLY class of citizens characterized as natural-born citizens.

Toward the end of the decision, the court says: "Our province is to decide what the law is, not to declare what it should be." So when they defined natural-born citizenship, that set of criteria — born in the country to citizen parents — is what the law is. You're trying to say that a class of citizens for whom the court said there is doubt is what NBC should be. That's not what the court said, because there is doubt about them just being citizens. Resolving doubts might make them citizens, but it wouldn't make them natural-born citizens ... because there is only one set of criteria for which there is no doubt. That lack of doubt is what makes that class "natural-born." The citation does NOT allow for other forms of natural-born citizenship, else that characterization would not have been placed in the sentence immediately following the type of citizenship for which there is no doubt.

The other problem is that the source of their definition, which is clearly from the law of nations does NOT allow for so-called "other forms of Natural Born Citizenship." Read the law of nations. There's no other natural-born citizenship described or allowed for. Why would the court use a narrow definition if it is intentionally allowing for "other forms of Natural Born Citizenship"??? The answer: They wouldn't.

317 posted on 02/02/2012 8:08:13 AM PST by edge919
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You’ll get quite a few chuckles here ..

Thanks for the ping Star! These days it seems you can judge the importance or possible impact of the thread by who shows up to shout it down!

318 posted on 02/02/2012 8:23:02 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: hedgetrimmer

“So an anchor baby can run for president?”

I believe the parents must be intentionally subject to the law of the United States at the time of the birth (e.g., green card residents or at least a visa vs. illegal aliens and/or children of diplomats).

319 posted on 02/02/2012 8:24:24 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Kansas58

—Find an application for Passport, online.
They are on the Department of State website.

Those applications list several different citizenship dates and requirements during those dates.—

I could be wrong, but I think the requirements to be eligible to get a US passport and the requirements to be eligible to be President of the US are not one in the same.

320 posted on 02/02/2012 8:34:35 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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