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A stunning photo captures growing Antarctic ice rift
MSMBC.COM ^ | Feb. 1, 2012 | OurAmazingPlanet staff

Posted on 02/01/2012 8:44:41 PM PST by Paul Pierett

A massive crack in a huge sheet of Antarctic ice discovered in mid-October last year is steadily growing, as seen in recently released satellite images...

The recent discovery that the glacier has markedly sped up over the last decade has provoked a flurry of research interest in Pine Island Glacier and its ice shelf, whose sudden changes are almost undoubtedly caused by climate change and warming oceans in the region.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: glacier; glaciers; globalwarming
It might be a contradiction or the global cooling evidence has them, the scientists and MSNBC dumbfounded. Not sure. Too many scientists are tied to the IPCC.

MSNBC tends to be in the Gore Camp. I wonder if they noticed it?

I would recommend MSNBC bring in a Glacier Expert before they throw in a possible prejudice.

1 posted on 02/01/2012 8:44:51 PM PST by Paul Pierett
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To: Paul Pierett

I really hate it when journalists don’t answer basic questions.

They say something is big, but they don’t say how big it is.
They say it’s tall, but they don’t quantify as to how tall it is.

Is it too much to answer the questions they pose?


2 posted on 02/01/2012 8:47:53 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Paul Pierett
FOUND: 115,830 square miles of polar ice

LOL!

3 posted on 02/01/2012 8:48:49 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Paul Pierett
"However, the calving iceberg itself is the result of a cyclical process, not climate change, scientists say. -- damn it!!"

Fixed.

4 posted on 02/01/2012 8:48:49 PM PST by JaguarXKE
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To: Paul Pierett

Didn’t they have another one of these a few years ago the size of Florida they claimed was caused by Gorebull warming, then it grew back the next year?


5 posted on 02/01/2012 8:50:51 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Paul Pierett
... are almost undoubtedly caused by climate change and warming oceans in the region.

Yep, it could be almost, or not.

6 posted on 02/01/2012 8:51:04 PM PST by WesternPacific (Deafness has its Advantages)
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To: Paul Pierett
OH MY GOSH!!! WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!! Just as the article says, this is ALMOST CERTAINLY the result of global warming! /s

Unless the process of a glacier moving slowly but continuously into the ocean will inevitably break off at some point. Let's be realistic; if it didn't it would one day encircle the globe. What a pack of morons.

7 posted on 02/01/2012 8:55:14 PM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Paul Pierett

A massive crack in a huge sheet of Antarctic ice was caused by a guy stealing 5 tonnes of ice from a Chilean glacier to sell to restaurants as ice cubes.


8 posted on 02/01/2012 8:56:21 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (Crack in Ice???? Who knew?)
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To: KoRn
FOUND: 115,830 square miles of polar ice

It's mine. Thank you for finding it. Please send it to me; I'll pm my address.

9 posted on 02/01/2012 8:57:27 PM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Paul Pierett
The recent discovery that the glacier has markedly sped up over the last decade has provoked a flurry of research interest in Pine Island Glacier and its ice shelf, whose sudden changes are almost undoubtedly caused by climate change and warming oceans in the region.

The planet has a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell.

10 posted on 02/01/2012 8:58:40 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: mnehring

The ice has to calve at some point. Otherwise it would eventually extend to the equator. I’ve mentioned that to a few who have hyperventilated over big chunks of ice breaking off either from around Greenland or Antarctica.

When I ask them if they expect it to grow to the equator, they always get a stupefied expression on their face.


11 posted on 02/01/2012 8:59:04 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: bunkerhill7
Crack AND Ice? Both in the same place?

Seems like a golden opportunity to offer free one way trips to druggies. They are often both stupid and useless. THOSE would be tax dollars well spent.

12 posted on 02/01/2012 9:01:52 PM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: 70times7

Would you prefer FedEx, UPS, or the USPS?

Sending such a thing via the USPS might just finally tip them over the edge into bankruptcy.


13 posted on 02/01/2012 9:07:02 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Paul Pierett

I think it’s Scrat’s fault. (Ice Age movies)


14 posted on 02/01/2012 9:08:39 PM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: meatloaf
I'll bet this guy gets letters all the time from liberals who are desperately worried about the ross ice shelf...

Smile

(for the record, I have never seen any more than about 15 total minutes of that insipid show)

15 posted on 02/01/2012 9:09:27 PM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Paul Pierett

Well, lemme see now - - - . The ice is solid and the Ocean is liquid. Think, think, think! Oh yeah, both are different States of Matter of H2O! Yeah, and the liquid is warmer than the solid, and the solid is less dense than the liquid. Therefore, the solid floats on the liquid - - - . Lost my train of thought.

BTW, what was the problem in the first place?


16 posted on 02/01/2012 9:09:53 PM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Paul Pierett

Any glacier that meets the ocean is going to calve regularly. This isn’t evidence of global warming.


17 posted on 02/01/2012 9:13:21 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Jonty30
Basic answers in the article. But you DO have to read it!

The fissure in the Pine Island Glacier ice shelf marks the beginning stages of the birth of a 350-square-mile (900 square kilometers) iceberg, part of a natural process known as calving.

The image was snapped on Nov. 13, 2011, when the rift was roughly 19 miles (30 km) long, 260 feet (80 meters) wide for most of its length, and 195 feet (60 m) deep. When researchers first spotted the crack in mid-October, it was roughly 18 miles (28 km) long.

I think that tells us how big it is.

18 posted on 02/01/2012 9:15:06 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Paul Pierett

The location of the crack is near where past rifts have appeared in the ice shelf, according to Bindschadler. He estimated that a new, rather large iceberg will probably form in the coming months, if not weeks.

“I hope that our field team will have enough time to get onto the ice shelf and set up GPS receivers before the calving event,” Bindschadler said. “We’d like to measure if the ice shelf notices the loss.”

Ted Scambos, lead scientist at the Boulder, Colo.-based National Snow and Ice Data Center, agreed that it’s likely that the crack is part of a natural cycle.

“These are cyclical, occurring every few years, very similar in size and even shape,” said Scambos via e-mail. “As a cyclical process, they are not part of the real climate-change/ice-shelf disintegration story.”

In 2002, the Larsen B Ice Shelf on the eastern side of the Antarctic Peninsula disintegrated in spectacular fashion, losing about 3,250 square kilometers of ice in a single season. More recently, the Wilkins Ice Shelf on the western side of the peninsula has started to collapse. Scientists believe both events are linked to climate change, though some researchers have suggested that wave action from distant storms could have helped break up the Wilkins Ice Shelf.

“If something different happened this time; for example, the pace of calvings changed, or this one was farther upstream from the past ones, then it might signal some major change in the Pine Island system,” said Scambos, adding that the area is changing in other ways, but the rate of calving has been steady over the last few decades.

A Crack in the Pine Island Glacier Ice Shelf

19 posted on 02/01/2012 9:15:22 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Paul Pierett
The recent discovery that the glacier has markedly sped up over the last decade has provoked a flurry of research interest in Pine Island Glacier and its ice shelf, whose sudden changes are almost undoubtedly caused by climate change and warming oceans in the region.

Wow, so glad he (?) qualified that with "...almost undoubtedly..." which, if I can go off on tangent here for a moment... WTF does that mean? Undoubtedly means without a doubt. Qualifying it with almost puts it back into what, the realm of well, maybe, possibly, could-be... But this {expletive} is no-doubt counting on people to read over that quickly and just remember that big word, undoubtedly. Well, it isn't, there is a lot of doubt, even from the very statements he's making.

Ok, the glacier "...has markedly sped up..." Hmm, seems to me that means more ice coming down, increased flow. Gee, to do that you'd need more snow & ice at the source... Doesn't sound like a warming trend but rather a cooling trend.

20 posted on 02/01/2012 9:32:36 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Paul Pierett

Here's a shot of the crack. One thing that's patently obvious is that the edge of the glacier on the left hand side of the image was also at one time a crack, much like this new one that's now opening up. Of course, that probably happened before the era of satellite imagery - so I guess it doesn't count.

21 posted on 02/01/2012 9:51:20 PM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: 70times7

You got 15 minutes more than me. I have no clue who that is.


22 posted on 02/01/2012 10:46:26 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: smokingfrog

“We’d like to measure if the ice shelf notices the loss.”

And I was unaware ice shelves were sentient.


23 posted on 02/01/2012 11:11:48 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: ThunderSleeps
http://www.nps.gov/kefj/naturescience/glaciers.htm

It's summer time in Antarctica......glaciers will flow faster.....basal slippage from the melting water as its base. Simple really...if they would only think about it or clarify that it is flowing faster all year round, in which case the increased cold and snow fall their would account for both.

24 posted on 02/01/2012 11:15:20 PM PST by Puckster
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25 posted on 02/01/2012 11:37:44 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it....)
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To: Paul Pierett
"The ice shelf is the floating end of the Pine Island Glacier, a slow-moving river of ice in West Antarctica that moves ice from the interior of the continent out to sea. "

Can someone please explain to me where West Antarctica starts?
26 posted on 02/01/2012 11:42:37 PM PST by WSGilcrest (/s)
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To: Paul Pierett
are almost undoubtedly caused by climate change and warming oceans in the region.

How come mountainous volcanos are allowed to erupt, the earth is allowed to quake, but ice is not allowed to crack?

-PJ

27 posted on 02/01/2012 11:43:39 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: WSGilcrest
Can someone please explain to me where West Antarctica starts?

Where East Antarctica begins.

28 posted on 02/02/2012 12:12:26 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: WSGilcrest
Can someone please explain to me where West Antarctica starts?

Go north on main street, Antarctica, and turn left. You are now in West Antarctica.
29 posted on 02/02/2012 1:37:00 AM PST by Freedom_Fighter_2001
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To: ThunderSleeps
Ok, the glacier "...has markedly sped up..." Hmm, seems to me that means more ice coming down, increased flow. Gee, to do that you'd need more snow & ice at the source... Doesn't sound like a warming trend but rather a cooling trend.

Ditto.
30 posted on 02/02/2012 1:43:59 AM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Freedom_Fighter_2001

But I’m on the other side. Does that mean I go
South and turn left? Maybe I should just wait
until all these icebergs melt.


31 posted on 02/02/2012 2:09:35 AM PST by cliff630
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To: Paul Pierett
Ice extent has been growing in the Antarctica since satellite images started to be kept in 1979, and as of today's date, is higher than average for this time of year since 1979.

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/s_plot_hires.png

32 posted on 02/02/2012 2:15:48 AM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: Paul Pierett

OMG! we are all DOOMED I tell you, DOOMED.


33 posted on 02/02/2012 4:36:16 AM PST by bikerman (you can take the man out of the jungle but can't take the jungle out of the man)
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To: Paul Pierett

Wow, ice breaking off a glacier and floating off to sea...

Better warn the Titanic before it becomes another victim of Global Warming...


34 posted on 02/02/2012 4:43:11 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: WSGilcrest
Looking North you will go to your rig...

Wait, your are near the South Pole. So looking north you would go your left...

Unless you are looking from the east side which would be on your...

Wait...

If you are actually at the South Pole, no, there everything would be north...

Come think of it lets just stay in the Florida Keys, much warmer and I know where Key West is...

35 posted on 02/02/2012 4:50:07 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22
They had better get the Ice Road Truckers!


36 posted on 02/02/2012 6:15:20 AM PST by Buffalo Bob
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To: Paul Pierett
The recent discovery that the glacier has markedly sped up over the last decade

Glaciers speeding up is a sign that they are growing, not melting! Idiots!

37 posted on 02/02/2012 6:19:27 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Moonman62

38 posted on 02/02/2012 12:13:35 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: meatloaf
That is David Schwimmer, most well known for the character “Ross” on the television show Friends. He is not really known for much else. He did appear in the HBO series Band of Brothers” as a drill instructor that was overbearing and incompetent. He did do a good job in the part. If you have not seen the series it is amazing. Worth seeing. Worth owning.
39 posted on 02/02/2012 3:30:30 PM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: WSGilcrest
Can someone please explain to me where West Antarctica starts?

LOL - seriously - I loled. That is a great catch!

BTW, If I was pressed for an answer... if someone walks 3' from the south pole and turns left 90 degrees and then walks the circumference of a 6' diameter circle around the pole, they are headed west.

40 posted on 02/02/2012 3:40:55 PM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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