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Calls for Gun Control in Wake of Fast and Furious Ignore Current Law
Heritage ^ | 2/2/12 | Lachlan Markay

Posted on 02/02/2012 11:08:55 AM PST by Nachum

Attorney General Eric Holder used his testimony before a House committee on Thursday to tout the supposed need for new gun control laws to prevent “gun walking,” or the transportation of firearms across the Southern border. But he – and members of the committee – ignored existing laws that already accomplish Holder’s ostensible goals.

“That is why we need a stronger gun trafficking law,” Holder said in response to questions about recourse against officials who signed off on the gun walking tactic. The tactic was integral to Operation Fast and Furious, which allowed the transportation of roughly 2,500 firearms into Mexico, often with not just the knowledge but the facilitation of federal law enforcement officials, where those guns were given to violent drug cartels.

Many Democrats on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, where Holder was testifying for the sixth time on Fast and Furious, echoed the attorney general’s calls for greater gun control. Reps. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) and Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) touted legislation they introduced, which would make suspected “straw purchases” – the purchases of guns to be handed off to others – illegal.

Holder called that bill “a good place for us to start.”

But neither Holder nor committee members mentioned the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, a federal law already on the books that appears to criminalize the precise conduct undertaken by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in Operation Fast and Furious.

According to James Steinbauer, a former Senate Intelligence Committee staffer who wrote the Kingpin Act, an extension of the IEEPA, “it is illegal for any U.S. entity or individual to aid, abet, or materially assist — or in the case of Operation Fast and Furious, to facilitate others to aid, abet, or materially assist — designated drug traffickers.”

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1 posted on 02/02/2012 11:09:01 AM PST by Nachum
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2 posted on 02/02/2012 11:12:13 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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3 posted on 02/02/2012 11:13:45 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Nachum

Let’s see Holder and his Fast&Furious gang cool their heels for ten years in prison for gun running and then we can analyze how effective current laws are.


4 posted on 02/02/2012 11:35:57 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Herman Cain: possibly the escapee most dangerous to the Democrats since Frederick Douglass.)
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To: Nachum
Honestly, how can any intelligent Republican listen to testimony like this and think that there would be a chance of working honestly with the Democrats? These people have no scruples, no morals, and will say or do literally anything to advance their worthless ideology. But now we know what F&F was really all about, and that is more gun control (but we at FR knew this already).
5 posted on 02/02/2012 11:39:32 AM PST by Major Matt Mason (The Chicago Way isn't the American Way.)
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To: Nachum

Kept looking for “Semi-News Satire”.....

“Our fraud and incompetence is why we need more 2nd Amendment restrictions....”


6 posted on 02/02/2012 11:46:56 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: Nachum

Attorney General Eric Holder paraphrased: “At the Obama Administration’s direction, firearms were illegally sold to ineligible buyers, illegally transported across the Mexican border, illegally returned to the United States, and then illegally used in the crime of murder, repeatedly breaking more than a dozen federal law. We need a stronger gun trafficking law to prevent this from happening again!”


7 posted on 02/02/2012 11:47:34 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Nachum

There is nothing more criminal than a Democrat. Nothing.


8 posted on 02/02/2012 11:49:07 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Pollster1
The criminals are the federal government bureaucrats. The best way to control that is to prosecute and incarcerate them so they can't do it again. That goes right to the heart of the problem instead of writing laws to restrict the freedom of citizens who had no part in their criminal enterprise. Perhaps defunding and eliminating the criminal bureaucracies themselves is the right piece of legislation to prevent a repeat of the bad behavior.
9 posted on 02/02/2012 11:51:41 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Nachum
They've got to blow smoke, it's all they have.

If the damned border wasn't wide open we wouldn't be having these problems.

10 posted on 02/02/2012 11:53:45 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I would suggest the open border problem is only a symptom of a bigger problem. Govt corruption has lead us down the F&F path among many many others. The problem is neither party has a interest in seeing positive change. So, we’ll be treated to political theater until the electorate starts getting a clue. Real change isnt going to come from DC, itll come from fly over land.


11 posted on 02/02/2012 12:15:39 PM PST by 556x45
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To: Nachum

WE DO NOT NEED ANY DAMNED GUN CONTROL YOU COMMUNIST POS... WE NEED GOVERNMENT CONTROL AND YOUR SORRY A$$ (HOLDER) ON TRIAL. FU HOLDER!!!!!!!

LLS


12 posted on 02/02/2012 12:17:59 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: Nachum

sfl


13 posted on 02/02/2012 12:27:46 PM PST by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: Nachum

And how about the Arms Export Control Act? These thugs are also in violation of that.

BUT, as long as Republican Party “leaders” are gutless, spineless pusses, afraid to death of the national media and Democrats labeling them RAAAAACISTS for wanting to actually apply the LAW to a black White House, neither Holder OR Obama will have anything to fear. They KNOW they can break any law with absolute IMPUNITY and NEVER be called on it. Miss Boehner and Miss McConnell are selling out the nation and the American public due to a complete lack of courage. Maybe we’ll get lucky and find a couple of 4 year old girls to take their place.


14 posted on 02/02/2012 12:39:27 PM PST by Oldpuppymax
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ARGHHH!!!! I just want to slap Holder silly!!!! It’s ALREADY ILLEGAL, and in fact the DoJ and BATFE were breaking existing laws in order to accomplish F&F.

Actually his testimony DOES prove one thing beyond a shadow of a doubt (for those who are already too blind to see). It absolutely PROVES that the reason for the entire scheme was to push for new, tyrannical gun control laws.

Nowhere does Holder accept responsibility or show any remorse for the hundreds of dead Mexican civilians murdered with the weapons his department allowed to be trafficked to the drug cartels, and I’ve heard that some of those guns have begun to turn up at US crime scenes, besides those found where Agent Terry was murdered.

Holder and his “crew” needs to spend the rest of their lives in prison.

Mark


15 posted on 02/02/2012 1:06:42 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Nachum
The ATF requested that gun shops sell to straw-buyers that didn't pass NICS background checks. As all gun dealers know a "request" from ATF is refused at their legal peril.

ATF field agents were ordered to let the straw-buyers cross the border and leave their surveillance, against their own strenuous objections, or "find another job."

Here is testimony, under oath, to all of the above by four ATF field agents.

The Department of Justice ’ s Operation Fast and Furious: Accounts of ATF Agents

Guns are not out of control. The Federal government is out of control.

16 posted on 02/02/2012 3:04:20 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Nachum

Wow, after being caught in a bold-faced LIE about his scandalous role in Fast and Furious, Holder has the AUDACITY to call for more gun control?! Honestly, the HUBRIS of these Democrat a-holes is absolutely GALLING!


17 posted on 02/02/2012 7:43:47 PM PST by DestroyLiberalism
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To: Nachum
The US DOJ is now indisputably the enemy of the people.

That the US Congress refuses to correct that makes them complicit.

18 posted on 02/02/2012 8:01:51 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Nachum

OK, just so I am clear on this, and please correct me if I am wrong.

1. Eric Holder and Company put a plan in motion to give “aid and comfort” to the “enemy” in the “ war on drugs”, they willfully and knowingly used taxpayer money to supply the “enemy” in the “war on drugs” with Weapons. They Financed the “enemy” in the “war on drugs”. These weapons were then used by the”enemy” in the “war on drugs” to Murder Hundreds of innocent people, they were also used AGAINST our OWN CITIZENS BY THE ENEMY IN THE WAR ON DRUGS, At least one Federal Border Patrol Agent was Gunned Down by the “enemy” in the “war on drugs” with these weapons.

2. We The People have spent HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS Fighting the “enemy” in the “war on drugs” since President Richard Nixon signed an EXECUTIVE ORDER Declaring a “War on Drugs”.

3. Every Government Agency and Every Public Servant in America is involved in fighting the “enemy” in the “war on drugs”.

4. We have entire Federal Agencies and Educational Institutions dedicated to fighting the “enemy” in the “war on Drugs”, not to mention Every State has Redundant Agencies fighting the “ENEMY” in the “WAR ON DRUGS”.

5. Every Branch of our UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES is now and has been for years, HEAVILY INVOLVED in fighting the “ENEMY” in the “WAR ON DRUGS”.

Now with these amounts of Public Resources being used at every level of government in the Entire United States fighting the “ENEMY” in the “WAR ON DRUGS”, Why is this not TREASON???
TREASON
TREASON
TREASON


19 posted on 02/03/2012 5:08:14 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: eyeamok

I forgot to Add, That Eric Holder and Company have admitted that this was all done as an effort to OVERTHROW THE SECONS AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, AND THE CONSTITUTION ITSELF.

TREASON I SAY


20 posted on 02/03/2012 5:10:36 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Nachum; All

“We need a stronger gun trafficking law to prevent this from happening again!”

Ok, Mr. Holder...In the immortal words of Donald Trump...”YOUR FIRED!”

That would be a most excellent start!!!


21 posted on 02/03/2012 9:22:57 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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