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Catholic Church’s unfair attack against Obama (by condemning baby killing)
Boston Glob ^ | February 2, 2012 | Joan Vennochi

Posted on 02/02/2012 2:52:38 PM PST by Zakeet

Last Sunday, the Catholic Church declared war on President Obama. Republican Senator Marco Rubio of Florida quickly took up the cause, signaling the outlines of a serious religious rumble to come in 2012.

The president should be ready for the fight, knowing that on this one he is right.

At Sunday Mass, Catholic parishioners across the country were read letters denouncing the Obama administration’s recent decision to require religiously affiliated hospitals, colleges, and charities to offer health insurance coverage to employees for contraception and the "morning-after pill." On Monday, Rubio, a Republican star who is often mentioned as a VP candidate, introduced a bill that would override the Obama policy by allowing religious institutions that morally oppose contraception to refuse to cover it.

But not all employees of Catholic institutions are Catholics. Why should their employers impose their religious beliefs on them and deny coverage for birth control and other medical care? As long as those Catholic institutions are getting taxpayer money, they should follow secular rules. That’s the Obama administration’s argument, and it makes sense.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; absolutemorals; catholic; obama

Your bishops are basically saying to hell with me ... and the conservative right wing lunatic Protestants are joining forces with them ... just to condemn the harmless practice of killing babies ... and this gives me the moral high ground ... and I'm not trying to regulate religion or undermine Catholicism ... I'm merely telling Catholic leaders they can’t regulate the beliefs of those of other faiths ... so I'm ready for the fight ... knowing that on this one I am right! *


* The leftist twit hit just about every talking point in the libtard talking points with this screed, didn't she?

1 posted on 02/02/2012 2:52:42 PM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet
not all employees of Catholic institutions are Catholics. Why should their employers deny coverage for birth control and other medical care?

Because it is the employer's money. Why is that so hard to understand?

2 posted on 02/02/2012 2:55:26 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Zakeet

Yes, and that’s one reason Obamacare needs to be overturned, so they could have private insurance and not take taxpayers’ money.


3 posted on 02/02/2012 2:55:26 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: Zakeet
Last Sunday, the Catholic Church declared war on President Obama.

Two years ago President Bowbama and his administration declared was on the Catholic Church, and Christianity, in general, with the passage of Bowbamacare!

4 posted on 02/02/2012 2:58:28 PM PST by Bushbacker1
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To: Zakeet

Response Catholic bishops SHOULD give: “We’ll comply when Mohammedans eat pork and drink wine. Until then, FUBO.”


5 posted on 02/02/2012 2:59:29 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Zakeet
But not all employees of Catholic institutions are Catholics. Why should their employers impose their religious beliefs on them and deny coverage for birth control and other medical care?

Why should their employees impose their religious beliefs on them and require coverage for birth control and abortion?

It's all about how you frame the debate.

6 posted on 02/02/2012 3:02:43 PM PST by TheDon (The Democrat Party, the party of the KKK (tm))
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To: Zakeet

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! Unbelievable.

The Obama administration is trying to FORCE a religious organization that has created inumerable hospitals and charities all across the country, to practise immoral and unspeakable murder in their hospitals against their will and their beliefs.

It is Obama that is declaring war, being unfair, and trying to act like the tyrant that he is.

He will push the American people too far over this and he will decidedly not like the results.


7 posted on 02/02/2012 3:05:19 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
It is Obama that is declaring war, being unfair, and trying to act like the tyrant that he is.

He kills two birds with one stone. He gets the Catholic Church out of the charity business, and closes 1/3 of all private hospitals, helping to force us into the only game in town, socialized medicine.

8 posted on 02/02/2012 3:10:36 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: NYer; narses
Catholics are evil for opposing baby killing ping.
9 posted on 02/02/2012 3:10:43 PM PST by Zakeet (If Obama had half a brain, his butt would be lopsided)
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To: TheDon
But not all employees of Catholic institutions are Catholics.

I am pretty sure that if the hospitals tried to enforce a "Catholics only" employees rule, the Glob and every other leftist fish-wrap in the country would be screaming 10 times louder than they are now.

No religion really likes competition but those who believe in the religion of socialism and big government hate it the worst.

10 posted on 02/02/2012 3:13:11 PM PST by Ronin (Now 15 kilograms down since August last year. Hell yeah I'm bragging!)
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To: Zakeet
"But not all employees of Catholic institutions are Catholics. Why should their employers impose their religious beliefs on them."

Not the only job in town. If you don't like the rules, get a different job.

In addition, birth control is non-essential, to say the very least. Why should it be provided for free by anyone?

11 posted on 02/02/2012 3:14:29 PM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: Zakeet
health insurance coverage to employees for contraception and the "morning-after pill."

Drugs that induce sterility or abortion are called "healthcare." That's how the Left wins debates.

NEVER use their euphemisms. We lose before the debate even begins.

12 posted on 02/02/2012 3:15:36 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Jeff Head

I am wondering if he’s finally bit off more than he can chew? I am hearing of many Bishops declaring that they will not comply.


13 posted on 02/02/2012 3:16:30 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Drugs that induce sterility or abortion are called "healthcare." That's how the Left wins debates.

NEVER use their euphemisms. We lose before the debate even begins.

You are exactly correct!

And that's why I never use terms like "a woman's right to choose" and "abortion." Let's call this terrible practice by what it really is ... baby killing.

14 posted on 02/02/2012 3:20:22 PM PST by Zakeet (If Obama had half a brain, his butt would be lopsided)
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To: don-o

The _resident is so visibly tone deaf on this one. Especially since he promised he wouldn’t even do this when negotiating with bishops for their support on Obamacare.


15 posted on 02/02/2012 3:24:20 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Zakeet

Oh, those phrases are OK if completed. ... to choose to kill her pre-born baby. ... to abortion of her pre-born baby.


16 posted on 02/02/2012 3:25:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: BenLurkin

This idiot is just as dumb as Juan Williams who was on THE FIVE program today (Fox News). He was filling in for Beckel.

The discussion about the furor over the Obama Admin’s decision to not grant a dispensation to Catholic institutions on the mandated contraception and morning afgter pills became very hot and strident.

Juan actually said that the Catholic Church had absolutely no case against this decision and that Obama was correct. When the other four (Kimberly G, Dana P, Greg G, and Eric B) all disagreed with Juan, then Juan stated that Archbishop Timothy Dolan and the other representatives of the Catholic Church were only complaining because they were going to lose the money from the Federal Government. His theory was that running schools, hospitals, and charities were nothing to do with actual faith and religion.

So, the radical Marxists in this administration are going to war against all the clerics in the church by claiming that by following the teachings of Jesus (feeding the hungry, caring for the sick, clothing the poor, etc.) the church has somehow no connection with having a Christian faith. These idiots only see entering a church for a religious service as being part of a faith community.

I have never been so angry in my life. When Juan was confronted with the First Amendment to the Constitution, he claimed thatg women’s health had priorities over the right of religious people in matters of health.

Folks - this is why Obamacare must be overturned. The federal government is taking over our lives and now our souls as well.


17 posted on 02/02/2012 3:29:20 PM PST by Gumdrop (!!)
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To: Zakeet
Please, continue to attack the Kenyan Muslim, who gives great illustration to the word macaca.
18 posted on 02/02/2012 3:32:12 PM PST by righttackle44 (R)
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To: Bushbacker1

Thank you mr obama for finally waking up the Catholic Church. Ted Kennedy,Pelosi and Kerry couldnt do it but you did.
Hopefully now my fellow Catholics will stop voting for this disaster!


19 posted on 02/02/2012 3:32:23 PM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: Zakeet
Please, continue to attack the Kenyan Muslim, who gives great illustration to the word macaca.
20 posted on 02/02/2012 3:32:42 PM PST by righttackle44 (R)
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To: italianquaker

I could never understand how the Catholic church supported Obamacare. I asked many liberal Catholics how they could support a bill that gave the government control over not just their uterus, but their entire body. They never had an answer.


21 posted on 02/02/2012 3:45:33 PM PST by tell me
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To: italianquaker

I could never understand how the Catholic church supported Obamacare. I asked many liberal Catholics how they could support a bill that gave the government control over not just their uterus, but their entire body. They never had an answer.


22 posted on 02/02/2012 3:45:43 PM PST by tell me
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To: Jeff Head
He will push the American people too far over this and he will decidedly not like the results.

No, he will not. Nor will the eliminationist monstrosities who prop him up. We will not fire the first shots in this oncoming war, but we will do our considerable best to fire the last.

I've observed that this whole tide of evil, from the boardrooms to the union halls, from the #occupy mobs to the White House, from the gated communites to the Hollywood enclaves - are all doing their very best to make it easy for us - almost conscience-free - to deliver the justice that is so well deserved by these champions of human slavery, misery and death.

23 posted on 02/02/2012 3:48:29 PM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: Gumdrop

PS: I just saw Nancy Pelosi on Fox Evening news - she is supporting Obama in this. She must be excommunicated from the Catholic Church for advocation in support of abortion and hedonism.

I fear for her eternal soul. I think I care more for her after life than she does. She really does need prayers!!!!!


24 posted on 02/02/2012 3:49:51 PM PST by Gumdrop (!!)
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To: don-o

I am at the point now where my ultimate non-compliance will take place over the barrel of a gun.


25 posted on 02/02/2012 3:50:13 PM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: Zakeet
Why should their employers impose their religious beliefs on them and deny coverage for birth control and other medical care? As long as those Catholic institutions are getting taxpayer money, they should follow secular rules. That’s the Obama administration’s argument, and it makes sense.

The one and only mission of the Catholic Church is to save human souls from eternal damnation. Anything it get involves in that does not include that underlying objective is a useless distraction.

The Catholic Church can take a big step in establishing its credibility by firing any employee who does not recognize and respect this.

26 posted on 02/02/2012 3:51:54 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Noumenon

Obama has steered us into uncharted waters; waters we have not sailed since 1860. Lord have mercy.


27 posted on 02/02/2012 3:59:48 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Zakeet
Why should their employers impose their religious beliefs on them and deny coverage for birth control and other medical care?

Hmmm......maybe because it's illegal to to hire or fire somebody based on religion. Maybe because as a consequence, religious institutions cannot hire only those of their faith. Maybe the author should realize that it's the liberals who impose their beliefs by forcing religious institutions (that aren't places of worship) to hire non-religious, and now it's the liberals who want impose their beliefs by forcing Catholics to violate their conscience.

28 posted on 02/02/2012 4:02:56 PM PST by Drrdot
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To: Noumenon

The American people will nor do his bidding in this. It is not they who will fire a shot...many Catholic Bishops are indicating they will not comply, and the membership will follow them, and Americans like me and you I know will support them.

It will be like a giant Klamath Falls.

That is when the rubber will meet the pavement if the SCOTUS or a Republican President does not end it before then. It would be Hussein and his minions, faced with wide spread non-compliance, who would fire the first shot.


29 posted on 02/02/2012 4:06:28 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
It would be Hussein and his minions, faced with wide spread non-compliance, who would fire the first shot.

Yes - in their ignorance, their hatred and their lust for power, that is all that will be left to them. It's the ultimate end of the Sunstein method: nudge, shove - and then shoot when it still doesn't work. That's al lthey know. And it will be their downfall.

30 posted on 02/02/2012 4:17:42 PM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: Gumdrop

Pelosi has simply been revealed for what she is. I don’t believe the demons in hell have souls ~


31 posted on 02/02/2012 4:39:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Zakeet

I know that he is not afraid of facing his Maker, as he really does not believe in Him. That will not keep him from facing God one day and giving an account. At that time he will NOT be able to blame George Bush, the earthquake in Japan, or anybody else.


32 posted on 02/02/2012 4:50:17 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Zakeet

Health insurance started out to cover an illness which landed you in the hospital which you couldn’t cover with a week’s pay. Little by little it has grown until we are now forced to cover your neighbor’s birth control so he can play around with sex. It covers doctor’s visits, glasses, prescriptions, dental visits, and many other things that people should pay for directly.

It became that way over time. The doctors didn’t object because they made more money. The insurance companies didn’t object, much the same as they now take part in settlements, because it means more money for them. And while we were not watching, they swelled medical insurance to the giant creation that we have today. At work, they shoved dental and prescription drug coverage at us. If we wanted basic coverage in the last dozen years, we had to accept the periphals. Consequence..., our costs almost doubled.

I don’t know the solution now. We could all stop buying insurance, but people are sheep and would not go along with that. They will continue to buy insurance, thinking that they are getting something for nothing.


33 posted on 02/02/2012 4:54:24 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent (I)
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To: Zakeet

As a Catholic all I can say is FINALLY!!!!!!!!!


34 posted on 02/03/2012 3:50:32 AM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Zakeet

As a Catholic all I can say is FINALLY!!!!!!!!!


35 posted on 02/03/2012 3:50:46 AM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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