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President Obama at the National Prayer Breakfast. Catholics Won't Get Fooled Again
Catholic Online ^ | 2/3/12 | Deacon Keith Fournier

Posted on 02/03/2012 4:39:43 AM PST by tcg

...President Obama spoke to the National Prayer Breakfast. As a Christian, I want to give him the respect due his office. I try to give him the benefit of the doubt because he professes to believe in the same Savior whom I also profess...

I will not refrain from pointing out the blatant and dangerous contradictions between his words and his actions as the President of the United States.

I am sure these words will soon be on the White House web site. I am also sure they will be utilized repeatedly as his campaign for reelection moves into high gear. He will attempt once again to persuade Catholics and other Christians to support his candidacy. The campaign has a "catholic strategy". It is precisely because of my deep concerns over that effort that I write...

President Obama has opened the flood gates to the unchecked killing of our youngest neighbors through legalized abortion. He has made it clear that Catholic and other Christian institutions will soon be forced to violate their conscience or face punitive consequences. Clearly, this administration intends to violate the constitutional rights of the Church under this unjust edict...

His Secretary of Health and Human Services, Kathleen Sebelius issued an Edict which demanded that Catholic hospitals and institutions dispense contraceptives (some of which are abortifacients) and offer sterilization under the so called "Affordable care Act". This government seeks to force the Catholic Church to violate conscience. Failure to do so will bring punitive measures from the new Caesar.

The unjust Edict came one day after Pope Benedict XVI addressed a group of US Bishops during their ad limina visit. He warned them of the growth of radical secularism in the United States and the accompanying threats to the fundamental Right to Religious Freedom. He was right!...

(Excerpt) Read more at catholic.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blackliberation; campaign2012; catholics; communist; comradeobama; liberationtheology; obama; prayerbreakfast
During the last Presidential campaign many Catholics were deluded by then Senator Barack Obama. His rhetoric uses language which sounds as though he agrees with Catholics on issues such as our obligation to the poor and the needy. His administration has acted in a manner which proves the opposite. The most egregious example is his failure to hear the cry of the children in the womb. However, there are many more, including his denial of religious freedom and his failure to defend marriage and the family and society founded upon it. His words at the National Prayer Breakfast call us to pray for him. However, we will not be fooled again.
1 posted on 02/03/2012 4:39:50 AM PST by tcg
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To: tcg

> Catholics Won’t Get Fooled Again

Right.

Most Catholics I know, even in my own family, support not only birth control, but abortion. Their leftist ideology comes ahead of the Church.


2 posted on 02/03/2012 4:42:34 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: tcg
"Catholics Won't Get Fooled Again "

Hopefully, Catholics won't get fooled again believing Obama is a legit Christian. He is anything but.


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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

3 posted on 02/03/2012 4:47:46 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: tcg

> our obligation to the poor and the needy.

Our obligation to the poor and needy is not to be fulfilled by taking other people’s money by threat of force.

Our obligation to the poor is for us to give the money to Relgious charities that then administer to the poor.

Here are two questions to ask your religious friends who think the poor should be helped by the compulsion of the state.

1. Did you know that government agencies only give to the poor only about 10% of all the money that is ostensibly taken to help the poor, while religious based organizations dispense to the poor 90% of the money they take for that purpose on average?

2. Would you rather have religious people tending to the poor or faceless bureaucrats in union-run organizations with political connections?


4 posted on 02/03/2012 4:48:04 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: tcg
The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

["(Jose) Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html


5 posted on 02/03/2012 4:48:28 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: tcg

As a Christian, I want to give him the respect due his office. I try to give him the benefit of the doubt because he professes to believe in the same Savior whom I also profess...

There’s your 2 mistakes right there.And he exploits those shamelessly. Zero does NOT respect the office so why accord that respect. He takes your benefit of the doubt for granted and quashes it while piously demanding it from you.

FBO!


6 posted on 02/03/2012 4:50:52 AM PST by Adder (Say NO to the O in 2 oh 12)
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To: tcg

A person who would take a life to ensure that he is not inconvenienced is a person who has little worth. They are devoid of morals. This man is two-faced. He says he serves God. He cannot truly believe if he can stand there and support abortion. God said ‘Thou shalt not kill’. He didn’t set age limits. He didn’t qualify it in any way. Obama is a hypocrite. I believe, and I also know that taking a life to prevent inconvenience is wrong.


7 posted on 02/03/2012 4:53:55 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent (I)
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To: ETL

Thanks etl


8 posted on 02/03/2012 4:54:07 AM PST by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: tcg

“Catholics Won’t Be Fooled Again”

Wanna bet?

(President Barack Obama in 2013, 55% to 45%.)

IMHO


9 posted on 02/03/2012 4:54:07 AM PST by ripley
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

“Obama is a hypocrite.”

Progressives constantly, unendingly, talk about the separation of church and state. Yet, there they are, spouting scripture and associating government with religion for the purpose of furthering a far-left agenda. (Could these Progressives be the bible-thumping morons that these very same Progressives refer to?)

Just asking.

IMHO


10 posted on 02/03/2012 5:00:43 AM PST by ripley
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To: vanilla swirl

You’re welcome.


11 posted on 02/03/2012 5:01:47 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: tcg
Catholics Won't Get Fooled Again

What makes the author think they were fooled last time

And it depends how you define a Catholic or any other religion

People who say they are Catholic ?--Like Pelosi

Hell I Have seen a car with an Obama sticker on the left side of the bumper and an Abortion Stops A Beating Heart on the right side parked in the Catholic Church Lot during Sunday Mass
12 posted on 02/03/2012 5:04:25 AM PST by uncbob
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To: ripley

I am afraid you are right


13 posted on 02/03/2012 5:05:19 AM PST by uncbob
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To: vanilla swirl
SEAN HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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"Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal".--James (Jim) Cone,
African American Religious Thought: An Anthology (Paperback)
by Cornel West (Editor), Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (Editor)

14 posted on 02/03/2012 5:07:49 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: tcg
IF, in an alternate universe, 0bama had been waxing eloquent in the Temple about how Jesus would have wanted to "tax the rich" (one of Zero's recent pronouncements), the slimy Kenyan fraud would have been the FIRST one that Jesus grabbed by the neck and thrown OUT of that Temple ass over teacups, along with the rest of that den of thieves and robbers.

Don't misunderstand: I pray for 0bama, I pray that Almighty God will light up his azz with a major league lightning bolt!
15 posted on 02/03/2012 5:10:28 AM PST by mkjessup (George Romney, Gerald Ford, George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, John McCain, Mitt Romney = the RINO Losers!!)
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To: Westbrook

Actually, I think we are about to witness ...”the great falling away.”

We’ve seen it slowly happening, but now it will be as a lightening bolt between Christians and christians.

As I stated on another thread I admire the Catholic Church’s stand, but if they capitulate and drop medical coverage for their staff etc. This places individuals at a very distinct turning point in their faith.

The new 0bamacare law requires birth control coverage and abortion funding by the insurance companies. If I understand these things correctly, they are required...meaning I as a Christian, will not be able to buy insurance without paying for these things. If the individual refuses...we will be punished by our government.

So this does go very much deeper than just the Catholic staff. There is a great falling away going to happen because as someone admitted ...how can they not carry medical insurance?

It is a tough, tough call to make.

Medical insurance vs. Heaven insurance

Canon Law says those committing murder, abortion, and heresy are automatically excommunicated.


16 posted on 02/03/2012 5:16:42 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: tcg

“You can’t fool all the people all the time, but you can fool enough of them to run a good sized country.” I think this is from Robert Heinlein.


17 posted on 02/03/2012 5:17:30 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: tcg

I believe Ayn Rand referred to it as “the sanction of the victim”. Not only is the president stealing our money and dignity, but requesting us to publicly approve of his actions. I suggest that a boycott of the Prayer Breakfast would be a good start.


18 posted on 02/03/2012 5:18:42 AM PST by STYRO (Take this government and shove it.)
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To: ripley

I agree. I know a family who sits in church every Sunday with their Catholic school educated children and they all plan to vote for Obama. Democratism trumps religion. Socialism sounds good to them. And government is their master (and employer by the way).

The Catholic vote will go for Obama. They don’t care about social issues such as abortion. (Remember Notre Dame?) They care about socialist and union issues. As a matter of fact, I know Christians of all religious persuasion who will forgive Obama for his weak leadership. “He’s doing his best.”

So long as the good people of America are tuned into the daily entertainment media we will not overcome the cultural bullying of conservative, free market principles. The only freedom that the media culture loves is their freedom to do/say whatever they want to whomever they want. No other freedom is sacred to them. Give them that and they happily do the bidding of the left.


19 posted on 02/03/2012 5:21:30 AM PST by carmody
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To: EBH

> .meaning I as a Christian, will not be able to buy
> insurance without paying for these things.

It’s time to “go Amish”.

See http://www.samaritanministries.org/

and http://inashoe.com/2009/01/samaritan-ministries-an-alternative-to-health-insurance/


20 posted on 02/03/2012 5:24:00 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: carmody

> So long as the good people of America are tuned into the
> daily entertainment media we will not overcome the cultural
> bullying of conservative, free market principles.

Could not have said it better myself, and it bears repeating.
Often.

> The only freedom that the media culture loves is their
> freedom to do/say whatever they want to whomever they want.
> No other freedom is sacred to them. Give them that and they
> happily do the bidding of the left.

Again, well said.


21 posted on 02/03/2012 5:28:57 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: carmody

nail on head and you stated the problem exactly.

Most Catholics up north have no clue what they are, yes they say they’re Catholic but then vote Dem, support the homosexual agenda, support killing babies.

If the catholic church is serious about this and I think they are then the Pope needs to get over here and raise this issue.
A note to all churches needs to go out and tell their flocks that killing babies is wrong , they were duped, they have now been ignored.

it is not politics is is your faith so mention it in the church and stop being cowardly about this church and state.
When you have Jarrett on TV at a church denouncing republicans then it is alright to mention ones faith about homosexuality and killing babies


22 posted on 02/03/2012 5:29:47 AM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: carmody

“And government is their master....”

But not the creator of the universe. (It seems as if these days the creator of the universe is a Progressive.)

IMHO


23 posted on 02/03/2012 5:37:59 AM PST by ripley
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To: ripley

NO, they understand that they have taken God out of the public dialogue. They created a vacuum in which the government now beocomes the moral authority...a god.

Hence why 0bama could say some of the things he did at the breakfast and to most laymen’s ears it ‘sounds’ morally right.

Here is the transcript: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/national-prayer-breakfast-president-obamas-speech-transcript/2012/02/02/gIQAx7jWkQ_story_3.html

But as noted it is incomplete!!! They are even back tracking even though certain soundbites have slipped into the public discussion.

In 2008 we were able to go back and read the transcripts, but now...the transcripts are even being scrubbed before hitting the net.


24 posted on 02/03/2012 5:40:58 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: uncbob

“Hell I Have seen a car with an Obama sticker on the left side of the bumper and an Abortion Stops A Beating Heart on the right side parked in the Catholic Church Lot during Sunday Mass “ I’m sorry to say I’ve seen that too. I must also say that the Obot sticker was on the car of the church organist. I removed it. In charity, I might add, because if it remained on the bumper much longer, I’m not sure I could have controlled myself from putting a brick through the windshield.


25 posted on 02/03/2012 5:45:41 AM PST by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: tcg

The pResident said “As a Christian ... “[anything past that was not worth listening to]

I do not believe FOR ONE SECOND this many ever ‘converted’ to Christianity.

If he did convert the Muzzies would be going nuts- Isn’t there some sort of penalty for converting away from Islam?

He is a MUSLIM INFILTRATOR


26 posted on 02/03/2012 5:56:17 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: tcg
As a Christian, I want to give him the respect due his office.

**************

The office of POTUS is worthy of respect...

(Give-or-take an ample supply of disinfectant...
....and a lot of elbow grease after each DHIM-LIB-DEM administration)

*************

JOK_JKR

This b*st*rd puppet is NOT worthy of anyone's respect...
He is UNABLE to tell the truth.

27 posted on 02/03/2012 5:57:31 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: tcg

Personally, I am praying Psalm 94 for Obama & his thugs:

Psalm 94

The wicked band together against the righteous
and condemn the innocent to death.
22 But the LORD has become my fortress,
and my God the rock in whom I take refuge.
23 He will repay them for their sins
and destroy them for their wickedness;
the LORD our God will destroy them.


28 posted on 02/03/2012 6:01:33 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: EBH

“...the transcripts are even being scrubbed before they hit the net...”

...and the Devil is in the details.

IMHO


29 posted on 02/03/2012 6:28:00 AM PST by ripley
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To: tcg
I can understand Obama's confusion when quoting scripture. When scripture discusses what is expected, it's referring to the fact that it's expected by The Lord. The problem is, according to Obama, the government is The Lord, the ultimate power, the ultimate good. Which is why he can twist scriptures to insist that they demand the government levy higher taxes. But this is nothing new. When he talks about being "my brother's keeper," he doesn't understand that the Bible refers to a person's personal obligation. Obama again believes the Bible is referring to the Bible's mandate for the government to force you to be someone's benefactor.

The Lord made these laws to be personal decisions. The Lord gave us free will. Obama and the leftists are demanding that we have this obligation, they demand the contributions at the point of a gun, and they'll just take a little off the top for themselves...

It's really not too different than his misunderstanding of being a good neighbor vs being a thief... Wasn't that his response to "Joe the Plumber?"

One last thing... Does anyone else believe for an instant that the leftists in government and the media would wouldn't be up in arms, screaming bloody murder, had a conservative Christian referred to government action based on Scripture? They don't, simply because they know what a joke Obama is, and they love the way he twists scriptures, sort of like Satan would.

Mark

30 posted on 02/03/2012 6:29:30 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: tcg
Liar in chief.

“But for me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus’s teaching that “for unto whom much is given, much shall be required.” It mirrors the Islamic belief that those who've been blessed have an obligation to use those blessings to help others, or the Jewish doctrine of moderation and consideration for others.
But part of that belief comes from my faith in the idea that I am my brother's keeper and I am my sister's keeper; that as a country, we rise and fall together. I'm not an island. I'm not alone in my success. I succeed because others succeed with me.”
He spews this crap as his brother lives in a box as he would like everyone in America to, while he sits on a thrown.
As someone said recently, somebody needs to tell obama that he isn't Jesus.

31 posted on 02/03/2012 6:53:42 AM PST by sunny48
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To: tcg

When the public wanted Social Security and Medicare the die was cast

Government can force business and people to pay into these systems they can do anything

Wonder if the Bishops and anyone against government control etc were in favor of those 2 programs —originally not now when they are going broke


32 posted on 02/03/2012 7:14:02 AM PST by uncbob
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To: tcg

As a Patriot who was never a Catholic -but who has come to defend that church -and its people when I find reason to believe they are right— I pray that this man is right—and the delusion is over. Yet part of me believes the nation as a whole is suffering strong delusion even today after three long years.


33 posted on 02/03/2012 7:27:04 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: gemoftheocean
I’m sorry to say I’ve seen that too. I must also say that the Obot sticker was on the car of the church organist.

Local Dem committeeman is a very active member of the CC and trying to talk to these people is a lesson in futility
34 posted on 02/03/2012 7:33:23 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Westbrook

It doesn’t matter December 21 will be the end of us, smile and be happy.


35 posted on 02/03/2012 7:37:24 AM PST by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: Westbrook

The Catholics I know practice birth control ardently. They’re not OK with abortion, though.

Although I’m not Catholic, I think it’s good that the higher-ups in the Catholic church are talking about these issues, especially in conjunction with their organizations being forced to provide these services. I hope it’s discussed often and loudly from their pulpits, too. We know for a fact that the MSM won’t be getting the word out to the people.


36 posted on 02/03/2012 7:45:25 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Don't blame me; I voted for the American.)
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To: uncbob

The “doctrine of social justice” is a siren song.
It promises imputed righteousness through effortless advocacy instead of actual sacrifice.

“Social Justice”, ie, collective sin and collective salvation, is not biblical. Therein lies the problem of putting the Bible below the proclamations of the priesthood as the ultimate authority.


37 posted on 02/03/2012 7:51:41 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MayflowerMadam; carmody; EBH

> The Catholics I know practice birth control ardently.
> They’re not OK with abortion, though.

Yes I know many Christians who do and believe the same and are unaware of their duplicity.

The spirit behind “birth control” is the same spirit behind abortion.

That spirit proclaims that children are a burden at least and even a curse. That their emergence among us must be regulated and even curtailed. And that we don’t believe God enough to trust in His promises and his directives.

God’s greatest curse to the living is, “I will cut off your generations.”

God’s greatest blessing to the living is, “I will multiply your seed.”

We have Christians volunteering for the curse and spurning the blessing.


38 posted on 02/03/2012 7:58:46 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: tcg

Bookmarked.


39 posted on 02/03/2012 8:26:52 AM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: tcg

Republican Rep. Phil Gingrey (Ga.) walked out of President Obama’s speech at the National Prayer Breakfast on Thursday.
“He was disturbed and offended by the president’s use of prayer and reflection time for partisan politics and class warfare,” .
At the breakfast, Obama tried to tie some of the proposals from his State of the Union address, such as everyone paying their fair share in taxes, to Biblical teachings.


40 posted on 02/03/2012 11:40:18 AM PST by sunny48
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To: tcg

41 posted on 02/04/2012 7:26:06 AM PST by KeyLargo
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