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.950 Caliber Rifle
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Posted on 02/03/2012 10:45:25 AM PST by jsh3180

According to this video, it's the largest rifle made.


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1 posted on 02/03/2012 10:45:29 AM PST by jsh3180
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To: jsh3180
Weren't there some scandinavian 20mm shoulder fired rifles?

/johnny

2 posted on 02/03/2012 10:47:23 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thats right there were!! I think tho they were deployed w/ a ‘crew’ of 2 men. The things are heavy not to mention the ammo. Ive never fired on but did get to handle it. Was all boxed w/ its fitments and what not.


3 posted on 02/03/2012 10:49:15 AM PST by 556x45
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To: jsh3180

Its cool but I think I like the 700 WTF rifle better. It might actually be useful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFYXTH7Gdhk&feature=player_embedded

I think the music really sets the tone.


4 posted on 02/03/2012 10:51:29 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: jsh3180

2400 grain bullet! That isn’t so much a rifle as it is field artillery.


5 posted on 02/03/2012 10:53:21 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: JRandomFreeper
They were the Lahti made in Finland. Fired the 20mm round. They were originally designed as an anti tank rifle but did not meet expectations for obvious reasons.
6 posted on 02/03/2012 10:53:27 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: jsh3180

I see little point to this. If someone’s going to build a .950 cal, why not go the extra distance and build a 1.000 cal.


7 posted on 02/03/2012 10:54:50 AM PST by vikingd00d (chown -R us ./base)
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To: jsh3180
It reminds me of a riverboat "punt gun" I saw in a local museum. I believe that had a 2" bore and was of course a muzzle loader. It was apparently used in commercial duck hunting at the end of the 19th century and could obliterate scores of ducks in a single shot.

I am not sure what purpose this .95 caliber rifle might be used other than for hunting unbelievers.

8 posted on 02/03/2012 10:55:08 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Lahti L-39


9 posted on 02/03/2012 10:55:21 AM PST by wideawake
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To: vikingd00d
I see little point to this. If someone’s going to build a .950 cal, why not go the extra distance and build a 1.000 cal.

If it were me, I'd go 1.001 cal.
10 posted on 02/03/2012 10:57:34 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: cripplecreek

1,132 gr bullet. Getting hit with that would really put a damper on your day.


11 posted on 02/03/2012 10:58:00 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: jsh3180

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCcQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DL1ejpcGbrWE&ei=KCssT7O4MKnI2AXhv4n5Dg&usg=AFQjCNFDGRPG_UXVBT_MLyI8nYEGGkuA0A


12 posted on 02/03/2012 10:59:26 AM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: jsh3180
280 mm Canon Fires Nuclear Weapon
13 posted on 02/03/2012 11:00:07 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Thane_Banquo
1,132 gr bullet. Getting hit with that would really put a damper on your day.

That's called stopping power. Kinda like throwing a steel mill at them at a couple thousand fps.
14 posted on 02/03/2012 11:00:18 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: crosshairs

“Whatever it takes.”


15 posted on 02/03/2012 11:00:41 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: crosshairs

That would be one more, now wouldn’t it? The Spinal Tap approach to arms crafting.


16 posted on 02/03/2012 11:01:28 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: wideawake
That's only 4mm diff between 20mm and .950. So I'm thinking, based on how well the 20mm shoulder fired did, the 24.x mm would probably be just a little bit worse.

/johnny

17 posted on 02/03/2012 11:01:53 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: AD from SpringBay

This one goes to 11.


18 posted on 02/03/2012 11:02:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: treetopsandroofs
“Whatever it takes.”

Put er in mah gun cabinet next to mah 12.5 ga. shotgun.
19 posted on 02/03/2012 11:03:50 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: jsh3180

October Country made a 4 bore

A 4 bore is about a 1.00 caliber ....1400 grain ball...

but these are/were muzzle loaders and very costly...

Tropical hunting rifles...

Hughes...Robert, not Howard made a 4 bore as well with 1800 grain bullets

a 4 bore is a monster...dwarfs a 600 or 700 Nitro...I cannot imagine

and some of these are cartridge puppies

these guns typically cost as much as a fancy Clayton Double Wide and up....way way up...if it looks British or Austrian or German...fuggedaboutit


20 posted on 02/03/2012 11:04:10 AM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: wardaddy

Wouldn’t a “4-bore” shoot a 1750-grain ball?


21 posted on 02/03/2012 11:07:17 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: jsh3180

These are not rifles in the commonly accepted sense. These are cannons that happen to rest on the shoulder and are fired by a finger trigger.

The recoil would knock the Terminator backwards.


22 posted on 02/03/2012 11:07:44 AM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: jsh3180

Want to make a neat ‘cannon’ for annoying your neighbors?

Take a 7 or 8 foot piece of pipe- big enough to hold a tennis ball (not a tight fit, and not too loose)

cap one end

put a pin through it about 1 foot down from the other side, to keep the tennis ball from rolling all the way down.

Drill a hole about 6 inches below that

put in a tennis ball, squirt a good amount of lighter fluid into the hole, and light it with a match

really cool- my friends and I used to shoot each other with these homemade cannons and you could knock someone over if you got a good blast.

Fun for the whole family and small animals too


23 posted on 02/03/2012 11:07:50 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Thane_Banquo
Here is what .905 cal. 2400-grain rounds look like:


24 posted on 02/03/2012 11:14:42 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: jsh3180

An even dozen ordered by the owners of Jurassic Park.


25 posted on 02/03/2012 11:18:07 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: jsh3180
Nah. Check out this one at 800mm:


26 posted on 02/03/2012 11:20:46 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: AD from SpringBay

“See my rifle ‘ere mate, it’s better than yours. It goes to 11.” /spinal tap


27 posted on 02/03/2012 11:24:00 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: alloysteel

Kind of reminds me of the guns on Admiral Dewey’s “Olympia.”

They look like field artillery pieces with a huge brass “shoulder stock” bolted onto the side of the gun.


28 posted on 02/03/2012 11:26:25 AM PST by papertyger
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To: crosshairs

A 12.5 gauge would be smaller than a 12 gauge.


29 posted on 02/03/2012 11:31:25 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: JRandomFreeper

20mm=0.787”


30 posted on 02/03/2012 11:45:50 AM PST by null and void (Day 1110 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: JRandomFreeper

The Finns, Poles, and Japanese all fielded 20mm antitank rifles, but 20mm only equates to .79” .

So this is larger than 20mm diameter.


31 posted on 02/03/2012 11:46:41 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: vikingd00d
I see little point to this. If someone’s going to build a .950 cal, why not go the extra distance and build a 1.000 cal.

I'd bet there's some law that kicks in at 1.000.

32 posted on 02/03/2012 11:47:27 AM PST by null and void (Day 1110 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: mosaicwolf
Also the Solothurn.


Swiss Solothurn, S-18/100 20mm Anti-Tank Cannon
(Manufactured for export and adopted by Italy, Hungary, and Switzerland.)
Finnish, L-39 Lahti 20mm Anti-Tank Cannon 
http://www.inert-ord.net/atrkts/50-55-20/Solothurn20mm.jpg

Solothurn 20mm
Finnish Lahti

System of operation: Recoil, semi-automatic, rotating bolt
Overall Length: 85 in
Barrel: 57 in
Weight: ?
Feed Device: 5 or 10-round box magazine
Muzzle velocity: 762 m/sec
Penetration: 35mm at 300m
System of operation: Recoil, semi-automatic
Overall Length: 2 240 mm ( 88.2 in )
Barrel length: 1300 mm ( 51.2 in )
Weight: 49.5 kg ( 109 lbs. )
Feed Device: 10-round box magazine
Muzzle velocity: 800 m/s ( 2624 f.p.s. ) @ 15rpm (30max)
Penetration: 20mm at 300m - 60° (40mm using APCR ammo)



Above are two of the largest anti-tank rifles of their time. Japan also produced a 20mm cannon, the Type 97. Probably the largest weapon in this class, weighing in at a massive 59kg (130 lbs).

As you can see by the photos these were pushing the limits of what could be considered a portable infantry weapon.
Even though these guns had superior single shot performance compared to either the Boys or Browning, their sheer size and weight were a major handicap. Combined with the fact that tank armor was quickly reaching thickness impenetrable by even these behemoths, the days of an effective anti-tank rifle were over. However the Solothurn and Lahti continued to find service roles as long range light "sniper" artillery.
Here is a couple of interesting sites worth a vist: Jaeger Platoon      WinterWar
05.06.07

33 posted on 02/03/2012 11:48:05 AM PST by Second Amendment First ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." - Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: SampleMan
Yes, see my post 17, above. My point was the 20mm shoulderfired didn't work out that well, 24.x mm should have just that much more suckage.

/johnny

34 posted on 02/03/2012 11:49:36 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: crosshairs

Are you old enough to remember the old cigarette commercial “A silly millimeter longer (101)”!!!


35 posted on 02/03/2012 11:59:55 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: AD from SpringBay
The Spinal Tap approach to arms crafting.


36 posted on 02/03/2012 12:01:53 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Thane_Banquo

For ‘normal’ human beings, a twelve or twenty gage with slugs and sabot slugs is more than enough to turn an intruder’s day to dirt nap. And the magazine allows for follow up shots in reasonable succession.


37 posted on 02/03/2012 12:03:11 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: crosshairs

“Put er in mah gun cabinet next to mah 12.5 ga. shotgun.”

Nice, but shouldn’t that be an 11.5 ga. shotgun?


38 posted on 02/03/2012 12:03:21 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: andy58-in-nh

That’s what those Yosemite Sam revolver rounds look like outside Toon Town.


39 posted on 02/03/2012 12:06:10 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Weren't there some Scandinavian 20mm shoulder fired rifles?

That would be .787 caliber weapon. A .950 caliber would be the equivalent of 24 mm. Either one is what used to be called a "cannon" when mounted on a fighter aircraft.

40 posted on 02/03/2012 12:07:25 PM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: katana
Yes, see my post 17.

You would think the pedants around here believe cooks can't convert from English measurements to metric.

My point was the 20mm didn't work well as a shoulderfired, and the .950 should suck about 4.x mm more.

/johnny

41 posted on 02/03/2012 12:13:44 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: treetopsandroofs
That’s what those Yosemite Sam revolver rounds look like outside Toon Town.

LOL. If you ever tried shooting one of those rounds in a revolver, they'd find your arm over in the next town.

42 posted on 02/03/2012 12:37:49 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: jsh3180

Any Navy guys can correct me, but I believe the the main armament on the Iowa class battleships are called rifles.


43 posted on 02/03/2012 12:48:38 PM PST by Molon Labbie (End the War On Drugs, Restore the Constitution.)
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To: jsh3180

Less of a rifle. More of a small field artilery piece.


44 posted on 02/03/2012 1:08:16 PM PST by D Rider
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To: jsh3180

They should name this the “Volt”

Yeah you can make it, but what good is it?


45 posted on 02/03/2012 1:26:55 PM PST by Venturer
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To: crosshairs
Put er in mah gun cabinet next to mah 12.5 ga. shotgun.

I have a 10 gage Super Goose that fires only 3 1/2 inch magnums. 36" full choke barrel with a bolt action. That thing kicks like a mule.

46 posted on 02/03/2012 3:03:08 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: jsh3180

You’d get a “kick” out of this rifle as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLxMlL333_Y


47 posted on 02/03/2012 3:27:25 PM PST by CALawyer
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To: D Rider

Here is an oddball made by the Confederacy, maybe half a dozen. I grabbed the footage at a reenactor event and got to speak to the owner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-3Fsjf1iwE


48 posted on 02/03/2012 3:56:25 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Thane_Banquo

“2400 grain bullet! That isn’t so much a rifle as it is field artillery.”

More like a stick of dynamite.


49 posted on 02/03/2012 4:30:47 PM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Newt will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: jsh3180

Would not want to be on the receiving end of that big boy.


50 posted on 02/03/2012 4:44:04 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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