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Newt Gingrich Is Right (NYT Ed on Fla)
NYT ^ | 12-3-12 | Rosenthal

Posted on 02/03/2012 11:37:06 AM PST by VinL

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"NPR has calculated that Mr. Gingrich would currently be leading his rival 39 to 32 overall (New Hampshire plus South Carolina plus Florida), if delegates were allotted proportionally."
1 posted on 02/03/2012 11:37:15 AM PST by VinL
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To: VinL
Too bad and too late.
The primaries are over and Mitt won and even Rush Limbaugh believes we need to get behind the nominee and focus our energies on going after Obama.
2 posted on 02/03/2012 11:42:46 AM PST by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: VinL

Oh man. The RNC had better get this fixed AND FAST.


3 posted on 02/03/2012 11:43:46 AM PST by GVnana (Newt 2012 - He Speaks for Us)
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To: VinL

It matters not whether he would have said something had he won FL, that would have been up to Mittens or the voters or the delegates. Maybe Mittens is just not that smart.

I just hope Mittens spent 25 million on proportional delegates.

And there is still the Robert Rules of Order. Yes they did penalize them by taking away 49 delegates but primary was indeed held before April 1st. OR give them the full 99 proportionately and penalize them with the seating and hotels in Tampa in August. Not fair to the 54% of voters who voted NOT-Mitt.


4 posted on 02/03/2012 11:44:03 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Gingrich/West 2012)
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To: VinL
You sure this was in the NYT....You've earned this t shirt...If y

Why is Bishop Willard Mitt Romney not using his title? What is he trying to hide? Do we want the elder of any faith to serve as President? Would we want a Catholic, Anglican, Methodist Bishop serving as president? Is it even constitutional? We need to have this conversation now!


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5 posted on 02/03/2012 11:45:36 AM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God: Newt, and Sarah will be right next to you.)
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To: VinL

The RNC will do nothing. They NEED mittwit to win the nomination.


6 posted on 02/03/2012 11:51:07 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Riodacat

“The primaries are over ...”
Not yet. That’s the meme the MSM, the RNC and the beltway pundits want us to buy, but there are plenty of primaries left to go.

The problem with our betters deciding that Romney will be the annointed one is that a significant portion of the base will, indeed, stay home rather than vote for him. It’s pointless to whine that such intransigence is self defeating and not really “truely conservative”. It is not for the electorate to conform itself to the RNC’s preference: it’s the RNC’s job to recruit and support candidates that can speak to the base, carry their standard.

Mittens can’t, or won’t do that.


7 posted on 02/03/2012 11:53:25 AM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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To: VinL

Rules only matter in the Virginia primary.


8 posted on 02/03/2012 11:54:39 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Mitt Romney, a piss poor choice)
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To: freeangel

Exactly. The elites want Newt gone, pronto, so why should they do anything. They will just say Newt is a sore loser and had he won, he wouldn’t be saying a word about proportionality. And they’re right.


9 posted on 02/03/2012 11:56:49 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Riodacat

“we need to get behind the nominee”

Yes we do. Please let me know when one of the candidates has 1144 delegates, or there are no other candidates left besides him in the race. Then I’ll get behind our nominee.


10 posted on 02/03/2012 11:58:24 AM PST by green iguana
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To: VinL
Does anybody have that "HELL" sign covered in ice?

11 posted on 02/03/2012 11:59:08 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Kill the terrorists, Protect all the borders, Laugh @ the (remaining) Liberals :^)
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To: freeangel

Between the stunt they played in Virginia and this breaking of their own rules in Florida, the GOP-e are indistinguishable from the democrat crooks.

The whole thing of “electability” I think may have as much to do with the GOP-e’s cannibalism and people knowing they want Romney.

The whole thing makes me sick. I hate politics. I absolutely hate politics.


12 posted on 02/03/2012 11:59:44 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: GVnana
The RNC had better get this fixed AND FAST.

They wont. It will just be another nail in the RNC coffin. The RNC is dead to me.

13 posted on 02/03/2012 12:00:01 PM PST by suijuris
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To: VinL
Why doesn't the RNC just throw out all the rules and declare that you only need to win 50 delegates to clinch the nomination instead of 1,144?

Why bother with the rules at all, if they can be changed on a whim when it suits the establishment?

Is this even legal if the RNC is a chartered organization, with bylaws and a governing body, and is registered with the FEC?

Shouldn't there be some modicum of fealty to the rules if they are supposed to be a legitimate outfit?

-PJ

14 posted on 02/03/2012 12:02:39 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Riodacat
Rush Limbaugh doesn't tell me what to do. He had his chance to knock off some of his rantings against Newt (so sorry) I am not selling out my core beliefs for the RNC nor for Rush.
15 posted on 02/03/2012 12:02:55 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: GVnana

I agree. We need to put pressure on the RNC to treat all of the primary candidates in a just and equal manner. They have no business playing favorites, disenfranchising the base, at this stage of the game! Contributions to the GOP are way down, and they are going to slide further if they don’t get their act cleaned up.


16 posted on 02/03/2012 12:06:32 PM PST by erkelly (Never underestimate the stupidity of the stupid party!)
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To: Riodacat

The primaries are over and Mitt won and even Rush Limbaugh believes we need to get behind the nominee and focus our energies on going after Obama.
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The primaries were over for Limbaugh on the day Romney declared. You see, Rush worships at the altar of money— Romney made multi-multi millions- that’s a Limbaugh hero, no matter how the money was made.

To Limbaugh, Newt’s a peasant.


17 posted on 02/03/2012 12:08:01 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: Riodacat
The primaries are over and Mitt won and even Rush Limbaugh believes we need to get behind the nominee and focus our energies on going after Obama.

I'd accuse you of having smoked something wacky but Mittbots aren't known for doing that.

18 posted on 02/03/2012 12:10:40 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Qwackertoo

It was the Florida state AG that caught this..not Newt. It warrants a challenge and last I heard the rules will be bent in Mitts favor. UNLESS Newt becomes the front runner..ironic isn’t it because Newt would have been the front runner according to their own rules.


19 posted on 02/03/2012 12:13:14 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Riodacat
Who gives a sh!t what rush limbaugh says..really

Let's go to cut 5 where someone else mentions my name on tv...

Like I said...who give a sh!t?

20 posted on 02/03/2012 12:14:16 PM PST by Post5203 (Newter 0bama...The real Axis of Evil...Washington, New York City and Hollywood.)
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To: Riodacat
The primaries are over and Mitt won

Thanks for letting me know. Geez, I go away for five minutes and this happens.
21 posted on 02/03/2012 12:16:29 PM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: VinL
To Limbaugh, Newt’s a peasant.

You have no idea what you are talking about. If you would bother listening to the show, Rush and Newt are close friends. He has been taking Mittens to task for being a fake Conservative as well.

22 posted on 02/03/2012 12:16:48 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: VinL

Republican candidates attacking capitalism.

Republicans arguing that rules and laws should be changed after tha fact; that Winner-Take-All elections are bad.

What’s next for republicans?

- Arguing that the Electoral system should be abandoned?

- Claiming the other candidates aren’t qualified because they don’t believe in reparations, global warming and socialism?

This craziness is getting out of hand.


23 posted on 02/03/2012 12:16:48 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Riodacat
The primaries are over and Mitt won and even Rush Limbaugh believes we need to get behind the nominee and focus our energies on going after Obama.

Can you point out to me where Rush said that? As recently as this week he was calling for the Primaries to go on as long as possible to get the Conservative message out. If Mittens was his guy, would he be calling for it to end now? Does anyone bother listening to these radio programs before mindlessly attacking the hosts?

24 posted on 02/03/2012 12:19:49 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Riodacat

Well I hate to tell you this but I don’t give a damn what Limbaugh thinks. And TRUE conservatives follow rules and laws. You wanna cheat or ignore rules and law, become a Democrat. Romney is.


25 posted on 02/03/2012 12:23:52 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Lazlo in PA

You have no idea what you are talking about. If you would bother listening to the show, Rush and Newt are close friends
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And I guess that’s why he’s come out and endorsed the Reagan conservative Newt over the type of candidate Limbaugh has purported always disdained— you know, that Establishment McCain moderate he’s always talking about. /s

Yeh, Rush talks the talk—but like Ms. Coulter, he’s not walking the walk. Rush is ESTABLISHMENT!

And out of curiosity, does Rush have you guys monitoring the Board?-— because everytime there’s any criticism of him, the default answer is “if you listened to his program.”


26 posted on 02/03/2012 12:27:40 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

27 posted on 02/03/2012 12:28:11 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Riodacat

[The primaries are over and Mitt won and even Rush Limbaugh believes we need to get behind the nominee and focus our energies on going after Obama.]

Nice try. a) Rush is great but he is not god (Romney is:) and b) there is no nominee, they are all 1000 votes shy.

What kind of shill statement was that anyway?


28 posted on 02/03/2012 12:34:02 PM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: VinL
Gingrich—who came in second—will get none. Under a proportional system, Mr. Romney would receive 23 and Mr. Gingrich 16.

Not only that, NPR has calculated that Mr. Gingrich would currently be leading his rival 39 to 32 overall (New Hampshire plus South Carolina plus Florida), if delegates were allotted proportionally.

Well then...

29 posted on 02/03/2012 12:37:15 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: VinL

you must not listen to Rush very closely


30 posted on 02/03/2012 12:38:15 PM PST by stickywillie (a corrupt parallel universe exists beside our wonderful Constitution)
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To: VinL
And out of curiosity, does Rush have you guys monitoring the Board?-— because everytime there’s any criticism of him, the default answer is “if you listened to his program.”

Yeah you hear from people who listen when fabricated slams are made against him because it is obvious you are not listening to the show. Facts are generally posted here at FR and if they are not, corrections will be posted. If you have quotes of Rush endorsing Mittens, then post them now. Otherwise you are just making stuff up. The same goes for Beck and Levin who are promoting Santorum. Just because they are not endorsing Newt, doesn't make them RINO Romneybots. They are not comparable to DeMint and Coulter who are all out pushing for Mittens.

31 posted on 02/03/2012 12:39:59 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Post5203
Let's go to cut 5 where someone else mentions my name on tv...

Like I said...who give a sh!t?

You nailed it. My eyes were clearly opened on Bloody Thursday. I have stopped listening to MittBot Rush since. I feel better. I can get all my important information from FR.

32 posted on 02/03/2012 12:47:57 PM PST by sand88 (Nothing on this Earth would get me to vote for Mitt.)
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To: VinL
The NRC is looking more like the communists Democrats every day. Rules are rules and they have changes FL rules from the legal splitting the delegates. It is not a question of anything else except an effort to give Romney all the votes. Fair play has nothing to do with it. They have disenchanted the delegates that voted for Newt. That's a crime.
33 posted on 02/03/2012 12:48:24 PM PST by Logical me
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To: VinL
Yeh, Rush talks the talk—but like Ms. Coulter, he’s not walking the walk. Rush is ESTABLISHMENT!

I wish had the money to put this on billboards all around the country, especially where he works.

anyone who truly loves this Republic would easily see that Mitt would be a total disaster. Yet, Rush would have NO problem with Mitt, you see, because Mitt has an R behind his name!

Rush NEVER truly goes out on a limb for Conservatism. It might hurt his sales for tea.

34 posted on 02/03/2012 12:51:50 PM PST by sand88 (Nothing on this Earth would get me to vote for Mitt.)
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To: Riodacat

HUH, primaries are not over, the RNC are breaking their own rules for their RINO establishment guy and Romney should be beaten like hell over his Govt health care and liberal judges to homosexual agenda.

To say Rush said this and therefore we should all forget it does not mean we are all sheep.
We go by what we want and not follow one guy just because he states something


35 posted on 02/03/2012 12:55:52 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: sand88

“You have no idea what you are talking about. If you would bother listening to the show, Rush and Newt are close friends. He has been taking Mittens to task for being a fake Conservative as well. “

Do you have any links to where Newt admits to be close friends with Rush?


36 posted on 02/03/2012 12:56:21 PM PST by austinaero (Obama or America - can't have both)
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To: austinaero

I think you are responding to the wrong person :)


37 posted on 02/03/2012 12:58:10 PM PST by sand88 (Nothing on this Earth would get me to vote for Mitt.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

said a few days ago that the Romneybots will be waiting in the shadows to say we need to unite and get behind their man

MMMMMMM

Just because Rush says something does not mean we’re the borg or the Dems.

We hear from many and we then make our minds up unlike it seems Romneybots


38 posted on 02/03/2012 12:59:29 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: VinL
I'm George Soros And I Approve This Candidate
39 posted on 02/03/2012 1:01:50 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: VinL

The same arguements are used against the electoral college.


40 posted on 02/03/2012 1:03:18 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (The damage is too extensive. Burn it down and start over.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

If you have quotes of Rush endorsing Mittens, then post them now. Otherwise you are just making stuff up. The same goes for Beck and Levin who are promoting Santorum.
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I’m not making anything up. If Rush were consistent, he would be denigrating the Romney candidacy, and promoting Newt and Rick. Romney=McCain! But, he’s not. What is he telling us— Romney’s a conservative?????

As for Levin and Beck, they are promoting an alternative conservative (based on your statements)— Rush is harboring everything he purports to be against in not actively disavowing Romney. Wonder why???

Thankfully, Jeb Bush isn’t running because I know exactly what I would hear from Limbaugh in that regard.


41 posted on 02/03/2012 1:04:26 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: manc

Yup. I will NOT vote for Romney. And I will do everything that I can to educate people about him.


42 posted on 02/03/2012 1:06:44 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: VinL
If Rush were consistent, he would be denigrating the Romney candidacy...

He has been.

43 posted on 02/03/2012 1:08:51 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Riodacat

I have heard NOTHING from RUSH that indicates what YOU said....he’s been trying to stay OUT of endorsement...it’s been VERY obvious.


44 posted on 02/03/2012 1:09:53 PM PST by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: VinL

So, you want Rush to DENIGRATE a GOP candidate before the primaries are over?...kinda stupid if you ask me...


45 posted on 02/03/2012 1:14:09 PM PST by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: Riodacat

Fact check ... primaries are not over. Indiana’s will be in May.

Also, 35 or 50 delegates is a long way from the 1,100 or so needed to win the nomination.

Finally, Rush has been wrong before. You could look it up.

Opinion: Romney doesn’t stand a chance against Obama.


46 posted on 02/03/2012 1:23:54 PM PST by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: Lazlo in PA; VinL
If Rush were consistent, he would be denigrating the Romney candidacy...

"He has been."

It's been really hard to miss that. Romney is clearly his third choice among the GOP candidates (before Paul).

I wonder why it's so hard for some to recognize that. They can't possibly be listening.

47 posted on 02/03/2012 1:27:31 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: VinL

Can anybody who is actually from Florida tell me who and how the Florida primary date is established?


48 posted on 02/03/2012 1:29:06 PM PST by Rogle
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To: goodnesswins

So, you want Rush to DENIGRATE a GOP candidate before the primaries are over?...kinda stupid if you ask me...

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Precisely! You got my intent with exactitude! Rush has always trumpeted his devotion to Ronald Reagan-—Now, what would Reagan think of Mitt Romney???? I know exactly what he would think.

You have 2 conservatives in this race-(Newt and Rick)-— and we have an avowed liberal.. And Rush, can’t seem to decide between the 3.

My, my my.

I always respected Limbaugh as a devotee of conservatism and the grassroots— but like Ann Coulter and others, he’s now showing his true colors.


49 posted on 02/03/2012 1:30:00 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
B T T T ! ! ! ©

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