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Jobless Rate Falls to 8.3%, Altering Face of Campaign
New York Times ^ | Feb 4 2012 | Michael Shear

Posted on 02/03/2012 10:10:57 PM PST by WilliamIII

WASHINGTON — The burst of job growth in January gives President Obama a fresh — but tricky — opportunity to revise the grim economic narrative of his presidency while offering Mitt Romney a choice: embrace a new optimism or campaign against a sinking economy even as it shows signs of turning around.

The Labor Department reported on Friday that the unemployment rate had fallen all the way back to the level of President Obama’s first full month in office, to 8.3 percent, from a high of 10 percent in late 2009. Yet unemployment also remains higher than it has been for any presidential election since the Great Depression.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: balderdash; baloney; ecomedy; fake; farce; fudge; horsehockey; nonsense; nyslimes; oldgraywhore; phony; propaganda

1 posted on 02/03/2012 10:11:02 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

WOW New York Slimes..really..ya serious? 1.2 million people dropped out of the workforce, basically saying screw it and stopped even trying to look for work. Hey maybe 8 million people can stop looking for work the unemployment rate would be what, 2 percent


2 posted on 02/03/2012 10:13:15 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: WilliamIII

Interesting labor chart.

You can change the output variable on the x-axis at the top of the page.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000


3 posted on 02/03/2012 10:16:53 PM PST by Chgogal (WSJ, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Wonder how many were Boomers that were smart enough to get out while the gettin’ is at least still “viable”??


4 posted on 02/03/2012 10:17:12 PM PST by acapesket
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To: WilliamIII

Didn’t Rush say a while back that the administration was going to do this? I would hope the GOP would haul the labor secretary to explain how this economic miracle came to be, but they might be too busy trying to beat conservatives down.


5 posted on 02/03/2012 10:19:47 PM PST by ABQHispConservative
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Must mean subscriptions were way up - no? Way to go Slimes!

New York Times Posts $40 Million Loss in 2011

6 posted on 02/03/2012 10:23:34 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: acapesket

I did. I turn 62 in three days, and I’m done looking for work. Will get my first SS check in mid-April.


7 posted on 02/03/2012 10:30:57 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: WilliamIII

Only in the minds of the NYT could a 8.3 unemployment figure be a good thing for Bammy.


8 posted on 02/03/2012 10:38:42 PM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: WilliamIII

The NYT has become nothing but Pravda. Honest reporting has ceased there. To see the “intellectuals” who are Liberal and sip lattes reading the NYT as “news’ is funny.

They live a lie and love to believe it.


9 posted on 02/03/2012 10:59:52 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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Of course this number is crap. over at zerohedge.com there is a whole series of articles on how the BLS fabricated this number. Expect a lot of this in the run up to the election.

As an example they had 1.2 Million people leaving the workforce last month.


10 posted on 02/03/2012 11:00:13 PM PST by Leto (Damn shame Sarah didn't run the Presidency was there for the taking)
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To: Cobra64
Will get my first SS check in mid-April.

Now I'll have to work only THREE jobs to pay for you? You're welcome.

11 posted on 02/03/2012 11:01:23 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: WilliamIII

Nothing has changned. The economy is still deep in the tank.
More places are laying off or letting go then are hiring.
The current stat used for unemployment means little. It does not reflect the thousands that has just given up looking for work or been kicked off the UC rolls. And if you lost a fulltime job with benefits and now have a part time job with no benefits you don”t really beleive things are better.
If Obama tries to run on an “improved economy” he will get trashed at the polls


12 posted on 02/03/2012 11:18:52 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Libloather

But if Newt Gingrich manages to snag a precious metal asteroid for the USA, it could pay off Social Security for a long time. (I don’t mean that by way of mocking Newt.)


13 posted on 02/03/2012 11:31:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Sarah Barracuda

perhaps, but most people will just see the top line #. Same as they did when Bush was in office. Back when Bush and the GOP were taking credit for 4-5% unemployment no one was saying “but if you look at the real #s and count those who stopped looking unemployment is closer to 10%”

Also, it will be tougher for the GOP to run against high unemployment this time than in 2010. In 2010 every Republican could blame Obama and the dems in Congress. It was easy.

Now the GOP controls Congress. If Romney and the GOP runs against the economy and talks about how bad things are that won’t help those running for Congress hold their seats. “The economy’s been horrible the past 2 years, re-elect the GOP House” isn’t a great slogan.

The GOPers in Congress will want to talk about how much better things have gotten since they took over and that’s why they should be re-elected whereas Romney will want to talk about how bad things are under Obama and that’s why he should be elected.

Basically Romney will be at cross-purposes with the down ticket races. It will be tough to connect/harmonize the two positions.

At least on the economy and jobs. I suspect we may see a replay of 96 where the GOP focuses on keeping the House and gaining the Senate instead of the WH if these jobs #s continue.

That’s why we’re fortunate that Romney is such a strong conservative and has many other cards to play besides attacking Obama on the economy and jobs. For instance, a majority of the country disapproves of Obamacare and Romney has just the record to go after him on that. Oh, wait...


14 posted on 02/03/2012 11:31:59 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: arderkrag
Only in the minds of the NYT could a 8.3 unemployment figure be a good thing for Bammy.

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I AGREE WITH THAT

Zer0's train wreck rolls on (as planned).

Hope and Change... Tragic.

STOP03

Countdown until Jackwagon leaves Office: 351 days as of February 4, 2012.

15 posted on 02/03/2012 11:43:30 PM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Cobra64

I did. I turn 62 in three days, and I’m done looking for work. Will get my first SS check in mid-April.


Good for you! I’ll be 62 in Feb., 2013 and will do the same.

I hope we don’t get screwed and continue to get the checks.


16 posted on 02/04/2012 12:08:41 AM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: WilliamIII
Does any real Americans believe the unemployment rate in the United States of America is only 8.3%?

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh I mean, how stupid do these socialist really think we are anyway!

Stupid is as stupid does! Before the election the socialist and the old media will have the employment rate in the United States of America at full employment!

Americans can not trust nor believe anything that comes out of the old media and this administration, it is election year and will say and do anything to get this turd in the WH reelected

17 posted on 02/04/2012 12:36:40 AM PST by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: WilliamIII
This is actually how it works folks.

=========================

Bud Abbot and Lou Costello were one of the most
popular comedy teams of the 1940's and 1950's.
 
 
COSTELLO: I want to talk about the unemployment rate in America .

ABBOTT: Good subject. Terrible times. It's about 9%.

COSTELLO: That many people are out of work?

ABBOTT: No, that's 16%.

COSTELLO: You just said 9%.

ABBOTT: 9% Unemployed.

COSTELLO: Right 9% out of work.

ABBOTT: No, that's 16%.

COSTELLO: Okay, so it's 16% unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, that's 9%...

COSTELLO: WAIT A MINUTE. Is it 9% or 16%?

ABBOTT: 9% are unemployed. 16% are out of work.

COSTELLO: If you are out of work you are unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, you can't count the "Out of Work" as the unemployed.  You have to look for work to be unemployed.

COSTELLO: But ... they are out of work!

ABBOTT: No, you miss my point.

COSTELLO: What point?

ABBOTT: Someone who doesn't look for work, can't be counted with those who look for work. It wouldn't be fair.

COSTELLO: To who?

ABBOTT: The unemployed.

COSTELLO: But they are ALL out of work.

ABBOTT: No, the unemployed are actively looking for work... Those who are out of work stopped looking. They gave up. And, if you give up, you are no longer in the ranks of the unemployed.

COSTELLO: So if you're off the unemployment rolls, that would count as less unemployment?

ABBOTT: Unemployment would go down. Absolutely!

COSTELLO: The unemployment just goes down because you don't look for work?

ABBOTT: Absolutely it goes down. That's how you get to 9%. Otherwise it would be 16%. You don't want to read about 16% unemployment do ya?

COSTELLO: That would be frightening.

ABBOTT: Absolutely.

COSTELLO: Wait, I got a question for you. That means they're two  ways to bring down the unemployment number?

ABBOTT: Two ways is correct.

COSTELLO: Unemployment can go down if someone gets a job?

ABBOTT: Correct.

COSTELLO: And unemployment can also go down if you stop looking for a job?

ABBOTT: Bingo.

COSTELLO: So there are two ways to bring unemployment down, and the easier of the two is to just stop looking for work.

ABBOTT: Now you're thinking like an economist.

COSTELLO: I don't even know what the hell I just said!


And now you know why Obama's unemployment figures are improving!


18 posted on 02/04/2012 12:49:33 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: arderkrag

NY Times lost $39Million.

Keep up the communist propaganda NYT!

This paper and Zero are going down.


19 posted on 02/04/2012 1:26:02 AM PST by ChiMark (chewed up his body for a decade)
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To: Libloather
Now I'll have to work only THREE jobs to pay for you? You're welcome.

FU sonny. I have never believed in SS. It's compulsory government confiscation of my and my employer's earnings. If I had been allowed to invest FICA in my personal accounts in the private sector, I'd have almost matched my private investment holdings.

If you can't figure out that strategy, then you should take some accounting and finance classes. Furthermore, reserve your smarmy comments for the government.

20 posted on 02/04/2012 1:53:38 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Cobra64

When this first started, we were told this would happen. I cannot remember if it was my local right talk or someone like Rush. When baby boomers become eligible for ss, they will drop out of the workforce. I would like to see this number compared to the increase in SS benefit checks in a six month period.


21 posted on 02/04/2012 2:38:34 AM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: WilliamIII
New York Times and the Washington Post.

They personify the old Russian gag"

Isvestia ne Pravda, Pravda ne Isvestia."

22 posted on 02/04/2012 3:29:07 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Cobra64

Congrats for getting in while there’s still a few bucks in SS.


23 posted on 02/04/2012 3:46:21 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: WilliamIII

Everytime a ny slimes reporter lies... a demon gets his pitchfork.

LLS


24 posted on 02/04/2012 4:26:05 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: WilliamIII
2,488,000 jobs lost between December 11, 2011 and January 11, 2012... 1.2 million fall off unemployment rolls because the government needed to purge enough from the job market to create this lie... less percentage of people working now than ever before in our history... only 61% of Americans have any kind of job... gas on its way to 5 bucks... Home foreclosures at historic all time high... food skyrocketing. I cannot believe that anyone accepts this crap without spitting in the governments face.

LLS

25 posted on 02/04/2012 4:39:18 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: jeltz25

Sorry, but Pubbies don’t control Congress. Or employment. Or gubmint and they won’t be campaigning about how much better things are. We control the house and God knows they’ve done their part but the other 2/3 rds of DC are Dems, who haven’t so much as submitted a budget in 3 (soon to be 4)YEARS !
Surely you knew this.

All Pubbies will campaign against Dems record.


26 posted on 02/04/2012 4:52:49 AM PST by chiller ( Elect another batch of TPartiers and it won't matter which R we elect. WE will lead.)
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To: WilliamIII

Unemployed = Not working but looking.
Not counted = Not working but not looking.
The numbers are all bullshit!!!


27 posted on 02/04/2012 4:59:49 AM PST by Smber (The smallest minority is the individual. Get the government off my back.)
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To: VideoDoctor
This is actually how it works folks. [Abbott & Costello]

Excellent and I will use this on my more offensively liberal acquaintances.

28 posted on 02/04/2012 5:00:30 AM PST by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existance!)
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To: paratrooper82

“Does any real American believe the unemployment rate in the United States is only 8.3%?”

Just as much as I believe the inflation rate in 2011 was 3.1%. I also believe Solyndra was a good investment, GM could not have been restructured successfully through the normal bankruptcy process, the Taliban can be negotiated with in good faith, Jesus wants the government to levy higher taxes on the wealthy, Romney is a staunch conservative, the mission of NASA is Muslim outreach, the Federal Reserve is protecting the value of the dollar, John Boehner is using the Constitutional powers of the House to fight overspending by the President, George W. Bush is responsible for everything bad, the current administration is the most ethical and transparent in American history, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi want to work collaboratively with Republicans, the killings at Fort Hood were a “workplace incident” not Islamic terrorism, all poor minorities are victims of racism, government deficits don’t matter, the border is secure, federal spending cannot be cut and should be increased, the mainstream media is unbiased, the elites of this country identify with the middle class, CEO’s always act in the best interest of shareholders, we have equal justice under law in America, the Tea Party is a bunch of racists, social security will be there for me when I retire, all jobs in the private sector are created by government spending, a college degree is necessary for success in America, Obamacare will reduce the cost of health care, and I can count on all voters to be well informed and vote for the best interests of the nation.

Of course I also believe in hope and change. Why is it I’ve seen a lot of change but I’ve lost all hope?


29 posted on 02/04/2012 7:38:46 AM PST by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: VideoDoctor

I’ll steal that later.


30 posted on 02/04/2012 9:22:23 AM PST by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: WilliamIII

Are Freepers the only ones who notice that thelower the government says the unempolyment rateis the lower Obama’s approval rate go?


31 posted on 02/04/2012 12:33:35 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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