Posted on 02/04/2012 5:31:16 AM PST by IbJensen
I also have problems with his stand on drugs and prostitution and that he was for open borders before he was against them and has stated that now only drug smugglers want to come across anyway, even if he is running for president to fix our economy and create jobs, which of course add more illegals to the mix of those crossing the border. I also don’t like his association with stormfront and organizations that are primarily rascist. And then there was the remark that said we had nothing to fear from a nuclear Iran because they don’t have an ICBM capable of reaching the US, while ignoring they are close to if not already having one that would reach Israel and him obviously having no insight to ahkaninejad (don’t really care if I spell his name right or not)and his belief that when the 12th Iman comes their duty is to destroy Israel and they themselves will be destroyed and go to haeven with their 72 virgins. They are both NUTS. Paul has so many faults and negatives it is a waste of time and effort to even discuss anything he may happen to be right about.. Any one of these “issues” I have brought up would destroy a serious candidate, of course I don’t consider Paul a serious candidate
I do believe the US should pull out of Europe, not only because they are freeloading but because they are giving aid and comfort to an enemy : Islam
I sure don’t have all the answers to what you stated in your post, but if you think Ron Paul does or think he makes good sense, then you’re nuts.
Some things he has said have merit and I don’t have a problem in discussing them, only not in the context of RP or his campaign.
Romney's track record on gun control is pretty well known: he supports a ban on "assault weapons".
Gingrich voted FOR the Lautenberg Amendment, which means if you were were convicted of a misdemeanor crime of "domestic violence" even before the passage of the act, you can't own a gun (ex post facto gun-grabbing). link
Ron Paul has consistently voted against gun control.
Why is this issue so absent from the discussion?
Every other election, gun control has been a (if not the) deal-breaker issue.
It is now official. Pat Buchanan cares more about isolationism than illegal immigration. He is shilling for Ron Paul, even after Paul compared people who wish to reduce illegal immigration to Nazis.
Whatever he is, he is not a get-it-done conservative. What has the man accomplished, actually? I mean besides the speeches and books?
Oh, that’s right, I forgot, he was chief executive officer of a newsletter.
To be fair we must admit that with the majority of America’s Congress there wasn’t a way in hell that Dr. Paul’s proposals would make it through.
Imagine! Abolish the Fed, the DOE which was one of Jimmie Carter’s greatest achievements. Close up our foreign bases and bring those troops back to CONUS to spend their money at home.
Our devotion is not to Paul, it is to the alternative he represents. My opinion of Paul on foreign policy is that he is right for the wrong reasons.
I appreciate your level headed response and I respect your views although they do not represent mine. I’d like to go a little further and explain the comment on cult behavior I made, because I just came away from a very unhealthy experience.
Sadly, my experience with an individual who passionately supported Ron Paul was the pastor of my former church. His devotion to Congressman Paul was blinding to where he was mocking, openly mocking other GOP candidates in public forums. In December alone, his facebook page was 95% political commentary and 94% supportive of Ron Paul. The other 1% made reference to religion. When called out on it, he’d justify his actions and doubled down. This is why I found him cult like—perhaps I chose the wrong verbiage for this type of behavior. But it is disturbing.
As a private citizen his public mockery of the GOP field and assertions that Ron Paul was the only candidate walking a Christian faith was fine; as the pastor of a church representing his congregation, he crossed a boundary. And this is why he is the pastor of my FORMER church.
I'm sorry to hear it. I'll pray for your pastor, he is wrong if he is allowing his politics to alienate his church.
Although I am a Paul supporter, I also acknowledge that in the unlikely event that he could win, the consequences of his radical actions of reformation could be disastrous.
We can only trust in God, not in men.
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