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Nevada Caucuses; Get out and vote for Paul, Gingrich, and Santorum, STOP ROMNEY
vanity | February 4, 2012 | steelers6

Posted on 02/04/2012 1:07:16 PM PST by Steelers6

Anyone you know that will vote for these 3 candidates in Nevada, get them to the caucuses today.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: today; vanity; vote
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1 posted on 02/04/2012 1:07:26 PM PST by Steelers6
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To: Steelers6

Nevada is South Utah and its also Sodom & Gomorrah.... Romney likely wins in a walk.


2 posted on 02/04/2012 1:13:08 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Steelers6
I the push is to get the voters out for Paul, Gingrich, and Santorum then Romney wins. If Paul and Santorum gets the hell out of the race, then Gingrich might win NV. That is if the Mormons decide to not vote.
3 posted on 02/04/2012 1:14:32 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Steelers6
Drive a friend! Or Walk!
4 posted on 02/04/2012 1:27:02 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Steelers6

The mormons are beginning to get on my nerves. Mitt Romney lied about Newt in his Florida ads and he continues to be put up on this high pedestal. People please stop Romney.


5 posted on 02/04/2012 1:33:49 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: Logical me; Steelers6
If the push is to get the voters out for Paul, Gingrich, and Santorum then Romney wins

Yep, splitting the notRomney vote just helps Romney yet again.

Paul is hopeless and in it for Paul, but perhaps Santorum could be convinced to withdraw in time to stop Mitt.

6 posted on 02/04/2012 1:37:32 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

The vote is proportional, any vote that doesn’t go to Romney is good because his vote will go down.


7 posted on 02/04/2012 1:40:29 PM PST by Steelers6
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To: All; Steelers6

Romney won with 51% in 2008; Ron Paul was second with less than 14%.


8 posted on 02/04/2012 1:40:49 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: Steelers6

NOT PAUL
NOT MYTH


9 posted on 02/04/2012 1:41:13 PM PST by Vaquero
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To: D-fendr
Paul and his bots think it's all a f*ing videogame. Santorum thinks he can convince people he's on a holy quest. I don't think either one of them, or their followers, really gives a shit about the Republic.
10 posted on 02/04/2012 1:42:45 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: D-fendr

Santorum is polling ahead of Newt and Romney in this nation poll Versus Obama!

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/01/santorum-electable.html


11 posted on 02/04/2012 1:43:06 PM PST by entropy12 (Socialism has failed everywhere tried. It breeds mediocrity, corruption, nepotism & poverty for all)
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To: Steelers6
The vote is proportional, any vote that doesn’t go to Romney is good because his vote will go down.

But that's counterbalanced by the fact that his opponents votes will be split. That's how Romney wins with less than a majority, (heck less than 30%) support.

12 posted on 02/04/2012 1:48:50 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: entropy12

I believe the poll in your link is just for N. Carolina, and taken just after Iowa.


13 posted on 02/04/2012 1:55:24 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Steelers6
Play-by-Play of the Nevada Caucus
14 posted on 02/04/2012 2:15:04 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (NEWT GINGRICH 2012)
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To: D-fendr
I question Newt's ability to go the distance. It scared me when Newt said he’d decided to stay in after SC even if he lost. What other option was there, to drop? If Santorum's forced out and Newt takes a dive, our options will consist of Romney or Paul.
15 posted on 02/04/2012 2:23:34 PM PST by Kenny (<p><i)
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To: Kenny
I question Newt's ability to go the distance. It scared me when Newt said he’d decided to stay in after SC even if he lost. What other option was there, to drop? If Santorum's forced out and Newt takes a dive, our options will consist of Romney or Paul.

Why, and if your are questioning Newt's ability to go the distance, why aren't you questioning Santorum's ability to got the distance?
16 posted on 02/04/2012 2:30:39 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Kenny

I hear you Kenny, but if both stay in, we have no options: Romney wins.

I know it’s not quite that simple, but the math is going to get pretty rough soon.

If everyone coalesced around Santorum, I’d be fine with him; but I don’t think it is, will or can.

RIck’s problem, IMHO, is he’s too soft or I dunno how to say it. Not inspiring as a leader and I can’t see him taking it to Obama. Newt has a prayer, at least, of effectively articulating a conservative message.

Not thrilled with the choices, but this is how I see it now..


17 posted on 02/04/2012 2:34:14 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Just got home from caucusing about two hours ago; 12 people showed up for our precinct. 2 for Paul, 2 for Gingrich (one was me) and 8 Mormons for Romney. We talked for an hour among ourselves before we voted. The result:

2 for Paul (no surprise) 4 for Romney, SIX FOR NEWT!!!

I hear-by declare I was wrong about Mormons’ mindless support for Romney. They can be reached with the truth where politics are concerned.

Newt should have done more here, I really think that if he had put his heart into this campaign in Nevada, he would have won it, and it might have been a good antidote to Florida even if it isn't a lot of votes.

But he will definitely get some delegates!

18 posted on 02/04/2012 2:36:39 PM PST by erkelly (Never underestimate the stupidity of the stupid party!)
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To: SoConPubbie

As I said, Newt indicated that he would fight on after New Hampshire if he took a solid second. Back then at least he didn’t seem unconditionally committed. Maybe that’s changed with the SC win but I’m not confident enough to run out the only other conservative in the race (except Paul who’s just nuts).

As far as Santorum staying, I’m praying one or the other will go the distance and not force Romney on us.


19 posted on 02/04/2012 2:37:38 PM PST by Kenny (<p><i)
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To: D-fendr

I agree with everything you said. Guess the next few days might shape the race one way or the other.


20 posted on 02/04/2012 2:39:44 PM PST by Kenny (<p><i)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Sorry to read that!

Your caucus was done incorrectly, I would have expected better from the county that likes to think it runs the state, and always tries to dominate the convention.

All delegates and alternates are in fact supposed to fill out a form.
The delegate keeps one copy as their admission form to the state convention.
The local committee keeps a copy, another goes to the state party committee organizing the state convention.

I hope your precinct captain straitens this out quickly.


21 posted on 02/04/2012 2:43:24 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: erkelly
Thanks.

Most citizens agree that this November is a crucial point in the history of the Republic and may determine whether America's future lies down the dark road of tyranny by government, a road which many nations have traveled across the centuries - OR, is it possible that enough enlightened citizens use the force of their Constitutional prerogative as its "KEEPERS" (Justice Joseph Story) and bring about a return to its limits on and protections FROM their elected officials, as both Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln advised us to do.

Thomas Jefferson:

"These principles form the bright constellation which has gone before us and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation. The wisdom of our sages and the blood of our heroes have been devoted to their attainment. They should be the creed of our political faith, the text of civic instruction, the touchstone by which to try the services of those we trust; and should we wander from them in moments of error or of alarm, let us hasten to retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty, and safety."

Abraham Lincoln:

“Now, my countrymen, if you have been taught doctrines which conflict with the great landmarks of the Declaration of Independence…let me entreat you to come back. Return to the fountains whose waters spring close to the blood of the Revolution.”

Jonah Goldberg wrote this week that Mitt Romney is "not speaking the language (of conservatism) naturally."

Sorry, but Romney's problem is deeper and more significant than that. In several instances, Krauthammer has observed that Romney seems to be incapable of explaining conservatism.

When a person is steeped in the ideas of Jefferson, Adams, Madison, and Washington, it just "naturally" slips through in the ideas they convey. Remember Reagan?

Do Republicans seriously want to conserve (preserve) America's constitutional principles? Or, are they just objecting to Democrats? Do they have a passion for liberty? Is this just about changing the Party in power, or is it about preserving freedom?

If their concern is for convincing enough voters to reject the idea of "a government big enough to give you everyting you want" and turn to advocacy for "a government small enough to allow you freedom to keep most of what you earn," then they'd better get busy seeing that someone is nominated who has been "marinated" (to use a word coined by Ingraham last night on "The Factor") in the Founders' ideas (isn't that what conservatives purport to "conserve"?).

So far, Mitt Romney demonstrates no such immersion. He has been "successful" in benefiting from the founding ideas, and he recites familiar words and phrases from patriotic speeches and songs, but that is different from understanding and being able to call up and articulate the philosophy which made such success possible.

Ronald Reagan's life and letters reveal that he had "immersed" himself in the ideas of liberty for years before he agreed to run for President, and that is why he could set "issues" in light of constitutional "principle," and explain his advocacy or rejection of solutions in by that light.

The other three candidates--Paul, Santorum, Gingrigh--couch their answers to questions in a manner which indicate personal study and understanding of the Constitution's protections, each in his own way.

Of the two so-called "frontrunners," however, the lifetime history scholar, teacher, legislator, and participant in what was called "the Reagan revolution," appears to be the one most likely to be able to successfully articulate and distinguish those ideas to voters, if given the chance to compete with the "counterfeit ideas" of tyranny cloaked in righteous benevolence by Obama.

Is "politics as usual" to win the day, or might we not bring Gingrich, Santorum, Paul, and others who embrace founding principles together to help to create a "passion" for liberty among citizens sufficient to defeat the counterfeit ideas which are leading the Republic to ruin?

The following is excerpted from "Our Ageless Constitution," p. 181:

"It was John Adams who said: "The foundation of every government is some principle or passion in the minds of the people." Clearly, the Founders' passion was liberty, and in order to secure that liberty, they sought out and incor­porated into the United States Constitution those ideas and principles embodied in the Declaration of Independence.

"The French historian, Guizot, once asked James Russell Lowell, "How long will the American republic endure?" Lowell replied: "As long as the IDEAS of the men who founded it continue dominant."

"Herein lies the answer to the question, "Will the Experiment Succeed?"

"It can and will succeed IF the motivating "principle or passion in the minds of the people" is LIBERTY, and if that passion causes them to exert the determination and will to complete the needed restoration of the IDEAS upon which the great American experiment was based." ---(End of excerpted material)

22 posted on 02/04/2012 2:44:25 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Loyal Sedition

Does that mean that his county will only have him—if even him because it doesn’t sound like each got a copy. I am sooo confused!


23 posted on 02/04/2012 2:49:38 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Steelers6
The vote is proportional, any vote that doesn’t go to Romney is good because his vote will go down.

I believe most primaries from now on are also proportional system. This means if Romney consistently get at least 30-40% in all states, and the rest split the 60-70%, at the end Romeny will likely to win as long as the three are still there.

24 posted on 02/04/2012 2:53:21 PM PST by paudio (Newt pissed on conservative principles, but we need him to beat 0bama so we look the other way...)
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To: Steelers6

Been and done.

I will also be a delegate to the county and state conventions, again.

My county is considered the most conservative in the state, I was surprised to see so many Rotney shirts.

This caucus was very informal.
Most folk only stayed long enough to cast their vote, then left.

The serious core remained until 1:00, when a few spoke in favor of their candidate.
No professional or campaign sponsored speakers attended in my precinct, they may have been present in larger cities?

I found myself as the default speaker for Newt, I touched on his proven conservative track record as compared to Rotney’s lack of conservative action as governor.

I spoke of the “Contract With America” as compared to Rotney only talking conservative.

I observe that the RP supporters are usually either very young, or anti-military service.
I have also observed that the young tend to be inflamed with passion for a particular (usually singular) issue and burn out quickly when they find it takes clear thought, time, and genuine effort to persuade folk to their view.

The Nevada caucus is proportional, so even with the Mormon juggernaut here Rotney will not take all the delegates.
Oh, and if you like “Swag”, Rotney is your guy, his campain is the only one handing out lots of shirts and hats.

The real election is in the fall, the turnout will be much higher
I know a lot of people who WILL vote, but did not bother with the caucus.


25 posted on 02/04/2012 2:59:52 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: Irenic

He needs to contact the county chair and alert them to this error.
The chair needs to make certain the delegates and alternates are properly registered ASAP.
No caucus should be run by anyone who has not attended at least one prior caucus, unless unavoidable.

Perhaps Clark County should have assigned some one to oversee several precincts, perhaps they should have held training in advance as my county did.

I do not live in Clark County, so it’s not up to me to dictate their process, but there are state party rules that must be adhered to.

From a personal bias perspective, fewer Clark County delegates to the state convention would be a GOOD thing, allowing the “Cow Towns” a greater voice.
The rural counties are much more conservative than (Home to Harry Reid) Clark County.


26 posted on 02/04/2012 3:11:04 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: Loyal Sedition

Thank you for the reply.


27 posted on 02/04/2012 3:26:46 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"Play-by-Play of the Nevada Caucus "

Here's a play by play of my experience as a caucus goer in Boulder City, NV.

There were two caucus centers in town, pop. 15,000, for 6 precincts. My polling place was the pavillion at the city owned golf club.

First up was registration before business at 9:00 am. Photo ID was required for Republican registered voters only.

Three sections were divided by partitions.

A member of the Boulder City Republican Women's Club chaired my precinct to start. No one objected to her chair so she conducted the meeting.

First up was to ask for volunteers for delegate to the Clark County Caucus. The precinct was allocated 9 delegates and an alternate. 9 people volunteered for delegate and 1 for alternate. No others volunteered so no vote was necessary. They were in as representatives of precinct 7563.

Next up were speeches in favor of candidates, limited to 2 minutes each. No one spoke for Newt, one for Ron Paul, one for Santorum, and State Senator Dr. Joe Hardy (my brother-in-law) spoke for Romney.

Then roll was called and a ballot with each candidate was passed out.

Ballots were collected and counted (witnessed) in front of the caucus.

My precinct tallied Romney 27, Newt 9, Santorum 7, Paul 5.

The caucus was over by 10;00 am.

Tonight there will be a special caucus for anyone observing their faith on Saturday. It will be held at one location downtown Las Vegas.

Ofter this mornings caucus I was called by Ron Pauls minions (I had earlied indicated to them, facetiously, my interest in Paul) who informed me they were going to hold a protest rally complaining about requirements of photo IDs.

It was my earlier experience, based on phone calls, that most Paul phone banks were manned by out of state, mostly Oregon, Paulbots. I suspect they are pissed because they couldn't show up and vote for Ron Paul because they had no NV ID.

I suppose they will try to vote tonight at the "Jewish" special location.

We shall see if they get the press involved.

No delegates were obligated to vote for any candidate today. That will take place at the state convention when delegates are apportioned based on the ballots cast in caucus meetings this morning. That tally will begin to be reported tonight after 5:00 pm.

yitbos

28 posted on 02/04/2012 3:32:13 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: erkelly

Well, noob, you done good!!

Thanks for the after action report.


29 posted on 02/04/2012 3:45:27 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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30 posted on 02/04/2012 3:50:25 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Steelers6

NEWT in COLORADO on Monday...details coming...


31 posted on 02/04/2012 3:51:04 PM PST by cookcounty (Newt 2012: ---> Because he got it DONE.)
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To: erkelly

Thanks for being there and sharing the information here. BTTT!


32 posted on 02/04/2012 3:53:51 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: erkelly

My God. You guys just committed voter fraud. I can’t believe that so called conservatives did that. Sad how badly this election is showing Republicans. Morals are really being tested and I believe it is because of some of the candidates who are VERY immoral. I hope you don’t end up in jail.


33 posted on 02/04/2012 4:00:16 PM PST by napscoordinator (Go Santorum! Go Patriots! America's Team)
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To: erkelly

Florida should abide by the NRC primary rules and award Newt the delegates he earned. It is very clear that the state cannot waive the winner take all delegates if they vote before the scheduled date...they violated that rule. Newt would have been ahead going into Nevada.


34 posted on 02/04/2012 4:49:16 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Steelers6

Fun to be in your fair state for this! Surprise us and shut the pundits up, Nevada!


35 posted on 02/04/2012 4:55:41 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Steelers6

First in!

Eureka

4 of 4 Precincts Reporting
Romney Gingrich Paul Santorum
V% 34% 30% 18% 17%
Votes 34 30 18 17


36 posted on 02/04/2012 5:25:51 PM PST by bondserv (Regarding Mitt Romney: I could not warm up to this guy if we were cremated together.)
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To: Steelers6

Re-formatted for clarity.

Eureka

4 of 4 Precincts Reporting
........Romney..Gingrich..Paul..Santorum
V%......34%.....30%.......18%...17%
Votes....34........30...........18.......17


37 posted on 02/04/2012 5:31:40 PM PST by bondserv (Regarding Mitt Romney: I could not warm up to this guy if we were cremated together.)
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To: bondserv

Pershing Precinct

6 of 6 Precincts Reporting
________Romney__Gingrich____Santorum____Paul
V%______46%_____25%_______15%_______14%
Votes_____71______38_________23_________21


38 posted on 02/04/2012 5:39:54 PM PST by bondserv (Regarding Mitt Romney: I could not warm up to this guy if we were cremated together.)
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To: Steelers6

Churchill Precinct

19 of 19 Precincts Reporting
______Romney__Gingrich___Santorum___Paul
V%_____47%_____19%______18%_____16%
Votes____362______144______140______119


39 posted on 02/04/2012 5:45:09 PM PST by bondserv (Regarding Mitt Romney: I could not warm up to this guy if we were cremated together.)
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To: bondserv

Mineral Precinct

12 of 12 Precincts Reporting
_______Gingrich___Romney___Paul___Santorum
V%_____38%_____36%_____15%_____12%
Votes____39_______37______15_______12


40 posted on 02/04/2012 5:49:44 PM PST by bondserv (Regarding Mitt Romney: I could not warm up to this guy if we were cremated together.)
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To: bondserv

Nye Precinct

33 of 33 Precincts Reporting
_______Paul___Romney___Gingrich___Santorum
V%____46%____29%_____17%_____8%
Votes___454____291______166______80


41 posted on 02/04/2012 5:53:00 PM PST by bondserv (Regarding Mitt Romney: I could not warm up to this guy if we were cremated together.)
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To: bondserv

Overall:

Candidate__Vote%___Votes

Mitt
Romney____38%___795

Ron
Paul______30%____627

Newt
Gingrich___20%____417

Rick
Santorum__13%____272


42 posted on 02/04/2012 5:57:49 PM PST by bondserv (Regarding Mitt Romney: I could not warm up to this guy if we were cremated together.)
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To: bondserv

Douglas County, the most conservative county in Nevada.

Mitt Romney, 41.3% 835 votes.

Newt Gingrich, 29.7% 600 votes.

Rick Santorum, 15.7% 318 votes.

Ron Paul, 13.3% 270 votes.

I note that the closer you get to SLC, the better Romney does.
It was stated on at least one site that Romney is getting 95% of the Mormon vote, and Mormons are 20% of the electorate here.

Now ask me why I insist on a clear separation of church and state!
I would say Newt is having to run against a religious mandate here, not just a normal candidate.

I view this result as skewed, not representative of the national will.


43 posted on 02/04/2012 7:44:38 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: Loyal Sedition

I find it interesting the Romney’s margin of victory statewide is about 10%.
His Mormon advantage here is about 20% of the total electorate.
He has not won in every county.

Newt had a weak organization here, I tried to get a yard sign but none were available.
If Newt had a strong organization he might have won Nevada DESPITE the Mormon advantage for Romney!

Romney ran a LOT of ads, ALL negative, I saw very few ads for Newt.

My overall take is that Newt still has a shot, but he needs a more active grass-root campaing and more ads, DONATIONS!


44 posted on 02/04/2012 8:19:22 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: Kenny
As far as Santorum staying, I’m praying one or the other will go the distance and not force Romney on us.

If Romney is the Nominee, he'll not get one vote from my family or myself, and if I can help it, from any of my friends and acquaintenances.

I will make it my mission to make sure he isn't elected.

I will layout the factual information that proves he is both a liar and a liberal in the most convincing manner possible and will work to see that a conservative candidate, whomever that might be gets as many votes as possible.

If Romney is the nominee, the GOP has made an enemy out of me.
45 posted on 02/04/2012 11:00:28 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
I will layout the factual information that proves he is both a liar and a liberal in the most convincing manner possible and will work to see that a conservative candidate, whomever that might be gets as many votes as possible.

I'm asking all my friends and family this simple question, "Do all Mormons lie or only the Bishops?"

No vote for Bishop Mitt Romney. Not NEVER!

46 posted on 02/04/2012 11:10:56 PM PST by The Citizen Soldier (America needs Gingrich in 2012 about as much as England needed Churchill in 1940!)
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To: SoConPubbie
If Romney is the Nominee, he'll not get one vote from my family or myself, and if I can help it, from any of my friends and acquaintenances.

That's sad for you and your family. I think you've got your priorities screwed up. This is not just an election where you can cast a protest vote if you don't like the nominee, it's our survival at stake.

No matter what you think of Romney, Obama is worse and will finish this country off. If you care about your children and their future, you will do everything you can to get Obama out. Anything else is suicide for America. Get Obama out and you live to fight the GOP another day. Get Obama re-elected and I think you know it will be over.

Obama is the enemy, period.

47 posted on 02/05/2012 7:58:01 AM PST by Kenny (<p><i)
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To: Kenny
Obama is the enemy, period.

No, Obama and Mitt Romney are the enemy.

As a Christian, I cannot lend my support to a serial liar and someone who practices character assination to gain the nomination.

Furthermore, if Romney were to gain the nomination, and if by some quirk of fate win the Presidency, it would spell the end of the GOP and all those compromisers who fell once again for the "Lessor of Two Evils" trick by the GOP-E will find out just how bad a choice they made.

I know, I voted for Arnold.
48 posted on 02/05/2012 9:20:21 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
As a Christian, I cannot lend my support to a serial liar and someone who practices character assination to gain the nomination.

You know it's all fine what you want to do but be honest. If you don't want a liar then you'd probably never vote again. Newt lied about offering backup for the wife story to ABC. They all lie.

49 posted on 02/05/2012 10:12:54 AM PST by Kenny
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To: Kenny
You know it's all fine what you want to do but be honest. If you don't want a liar then you'd probably never vote again. Newt lied about offering backup for the wife story to ABC. They all lie.

How about you be honest.

Newt may have lied, we know Mitt lies all the time. HE has never stopped.

Trying to compare what you state as Newt Lying to what Mitt does is a form of dishonesty all in and of itself.
50 posted on 02/05/2012 10:12:39 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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