Skip to comments.Nevada Caucuses; Get out and vote for Paul, Gingrich, and Santorum, STOP ROMNEY
Posted on 02/04/2012 1:07:16 PM PST by Steelers6
Anyone you know that will vote for these 3 candidates in Nevada, get them to the caucuses today.
Nevada is South Utah and its also Sodom & Gomorrah.... Romney likely wins in a walk.
The mormons are beginning to get on my nerves. Mitt Romney lied about Newt in his Florida ads and he continues to be put up on this high pedestal. People please stop Romney.
Yep, splitting the notRomney vote just helps Romney yet again.
Paul is hopeless and in it for Paul, but perhaps Santorum could be convinced to withdraw in time to stop Mitt.
The vote is proportional, any vote that doesn’t go to Romney is good because his vote will go down.
Romney won with 51% in 2008; Ron Paul was second with less than 14%.
Santorum is polling ahead of Newt and Romney in this nation poll Versus Obama!
But that's counterbalanced by the fact that his opponents votes will be split. That's how Romney wins with less than a majority, (heck less than 30%) support.
I believe the poll in your link is just for N. Carolina, and taken just after Iowa.
I hear you Kenny, but if both stay in, we have no options: Romney wins.
I know it’s not quite that simple, but the math is going to get pretty rough soon.
If everyone coalesced around Santorum, I’d be fine with him; but I don’t think it is, will or can.
RIck’s problem, IMHO, is he’s too soft or I dunno how to say it. Not inspiring as a leader and I can’t see him taking it to Obama. Newt has a prayer, at least, of effectively articulating a conservative message.
Not thrilled with the choices, but this is how I see it now..
2 for Paul (no surprise) 4 for Romney, SIX FOR NEWT!!!
I hear-by declare I was wrong about Mormons’ mindless support for Romney. They can be reached with the truth where politics are concerned.
Newt should have done more here, I really think that if he had put his heart into this campaign in Nevada, he would have won it, and it might have been a good antidote to Florida even if it isn't a lot of votes.
But he will definitely get some delegates!
As I said, Newt indicated that he would fight on after New Hampshire if he took a solid second. Back then at least he didn’t seem unconditionally committed. Maybe that’s changed with the SC win but I’m not confident enough to run out the only other conservative in the race (except Paul who’s just nuts).
As far as Santorum staying, I’m praying one or the other will go the distance and not force Romney on us.
I agree with everything you said. Guess the next few days might shape the race one way or the other.
Sorry to read that!
Your caucus was done incorrectly, I would have expected better from the county that likes to think it runs the state, and always tries to dominate the convention.
All delegates and alternates are in fact supposed to fill out a form.
The delegate keeps one copy as their admission form to the state convention.
The local committee keeps a copy, another goes to the state party committee organizing the state convention.
I hope your precinct captain straitens this out quickly.
Most citizens agree that this November is a crucial point in the history of the Republic and may determine whether America's future lies down the dark road of tyranny by government, a road which many nations have traveled across the centuries - OR, is it possible that enough enlightened citizens use the force of their Constitutional prerogative as its "KEEPERS" (Justice Joseph Story) and bring about a return to its limits on and protections FROM their elected officials, as both Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln advised us to do.
"These principles form the bright constellation which has gone before us and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation. The wisdom of our sages and the blood of our heroes have been devoted to their attainment. They should be the creed of our political faith, the text of civic instruction, the touchstone by which to try the services of those we trust; and should we wander from them in moments of error or of alarm, let us hasten to retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty, and safety."
Now, my countrymen, if you have been taught doctrines which conflict with the great landmarks of the Declaration of Independence let me entreat you to come back. Return to the fountains whose waters spring close to the blood of the Revolution.
Jonah Goldberg wrote this week that Mitt Romney is "not speaking the language (of conservatism) naturally."
Sorry, but Romney's problem is deeper and more significant than that. In several instances, Krauthammer has observed that Romney seems to be incapable of explaining conservatism.
When a person is steeped in the ideas of Jefferson, Adams, Madison, and Washington, it just "naturally" slips through in the ideas they convey. Remember Reagan?
Do Republicans seriously want to conserve (preserve) America's constitutional principles? Or, are they just objecting to Democrats? Do they have a passion for liberty? Is this just about changing the Party in power, or is it about preserving freedom?
If their concern is for convincing enough voters to reject the idea of "a government big enough to give you everyting you want" and turn to advocacy for "a government small enough to allow you freedom to keep most of what you earn," then they'd better get busy seeing that someone is nominated who has been "marinated" (to use a word coined by Ingraham last night on "The Factor") in the Founders' ideas (isn't that what conservatives purport to "conserve"?).
So far, Mitt Romney demonstrates no such immersion. He has been "successful" in benefiting from the founding ideas, and he recites familiar words and phrases from patriotic speeches and songs, but that is different from understanding and being able to call up and articulate the philosophy which made such success possible.
Ronald Reagan's life and letters reveal that he had "immersed" himself in the ideas of liberty for years before he agreed to run for President, and that is why he could set "issues" in light of constitutional "principle," and explain his advocacy or rejection of solutions in by that light.
The other three candidates--Paul, Santorum, Gingrigh--couch their answers to questions in a manner which indicate personal study and understanding of the Constitution's protections, each in his own way.
Of the two so-called "frontrunners," however, the lifetime history scholar, teacher, legislator, and participant in what was called "the Reagan revolution," appears to be the one most likely to be able to successfully articulate and distinguish those ideas to voters, if given the chance to compete with the "counterfeit ideas" of tyranny cloaked in righteous benevolence by Obama.
Is "politics as usual" to win the day, or might we not bring Gingrich, Santorum, Paul, and others who embrace founding principles together to help to create a "passion" for liberty among citizens sufficient to defeat the counterfeit ideas which are leading the Republic to ruin?
The following is excerpted from "Our Ageless Constitution," p. 181:
"It was John Adams who said: "The foundation of every government is some principle or passion in the minds of the people." Clearly, the Founders' passion was liberty, and in order to secure that liberty, they sought out and incorporated into the United States Constitution those ideas and principles embodied in the Declaration of Independence.
"The French historian, Guizot, once asked James Russell Lowell, "How long will the American republic endure?" Lowell replied: "As long as the IDEAS of the men who founded it continue dominant."
"Herein lies the answer to the question, "Will the Experiment Succeed?"
"It can and will succeed IF the motivating "principle or passion in the minds of the people" is LIBERTY, and if that passion causes them to exert the determination and will to complete the needed restoration of the IDEAS upon which the great American experiment was based." ---(End of excerpted material)
Does that mean that his county will only have him—if even him because it doesn’t sound like each got a copy. I am sooo confused!
I believe most primaries from now on are also proportional system. This means if Romney consistently get at least 30-40% in all states, and the rest split the 60-70%, at the end Romeny will likely to win as long as the three are still there.
Been and done.
I will also be a delegate to the county and state conventions, again.
My county is considered the most conservative in the state, I was surprised to see so many Rotney shirts.
This caucus was very informal.
Most folk only stayed long enough to cast their vote, then left.
The serious core remained until 1:00, when a few spoke in favor of their candidate.
No professional or campaign sponsored speakers attended in my precinct, they may have been present in larger cities?
I found myself as the default speaker for Newt, I touched on his proven conservative track record as compared to Rotney’s lack of conservative action as governor.
I spoke of the “Contract With America” as compared to Rotney only talking conservative.
I observe that the RP supporters are usually either very young, or anti-military service.
I have also observed that the young tend to be inflamed with passion for a particular (usually singular) issue and burn out quickly when they find it takes clear thought, time, and genuine effort to persuade folk to their view.
The Nevada caucus is proportional, so even with the Mormon juggernaut here Rotney will not take all the delegates.
Oh, and if you like “Swag”, Rotney is your guy, his campain is the only one handing out lots of shirts and hats.
The real election is in the fall, the turnout will be much higher
I know a lot of people who WILL vote, but did not bother with the caucus.
He needs to contact the county chair and alert them to this error.
The chair needs to make certain the delegates and alternates are properly registered ASAP.
No caucus should be run by anyone who has not attended at least one prior caucus, unless unavoidable.
Perhaps Clark County should have assigned some one to oversee several precincts, perhaps they should have held training in advance as my county did.
I do not live in Clark County, so it’s not up to me to dictate their process, but there are state party rules that must be adhered to.
From a personal bias perspective, fewer Clark County delegates to the state convention would be a GOOD thing, allowing the “Cow Towns” a greater voice.
The rural counties are much more conservative than (Home to Harry Reid) Clark County.
Thank you for the reply.
Here's a play by play of my experience as a caucus goer in Boulder City, NV.
There were two caucus centers in town, pop. 15,000, for 6 precincts. My polling place was the pavillion at the city owned golf club.
First up was registration before business at 9:00 am. Photo ID was required for Republican registered voters only.
Three sections were divided by partitions.
A member of the Boulder City Republican Women's Club chaired my precinct to start. No one objected to her chair so she conducted the meeting.
First up was to ask for volunteers for delegate to the Clark County Caucus. The precinct was allocated 9 delegates and an alternate. 9 people volunteered for delegate and 1 for alternate. No others volunteered so no vote was necessary. They were in as representatives of precinct 7563.
Next up were speeches in favor of candidates, limited to 2 minutes each. No one spoke for Newt, one for Ron Paul, one for Santorum, and State Senator Dr. Joe Hardy (my brother-in-law) spoke for Romney.
Then roll was called and a ballot with each candidate was passed out.
Ballots were collected and counted (witnessed) in front of the caucus.
My precinct tallied Romney 27, Newt 9, Santorum 7, Paul 5.
The caucus was over by 10;00 am.
Tonight there will be a special caucus for anyone observing their faith on Saturday. It will be held at one location downtown Las Vegas.
Ofter this mornings caucus I was called by Ron Pauls minions (I had earlied indicated to them, facetiously, my interest in Paul) who informed me they were going to hold a protest rally complaining about requirements of photo IDs.
It was my earlier experience, based on phone calls, that most Paul phone banks were manned by out of state, mostly Oregon, Paulbots. I suspect they are pissed because they couldn't show up and vote for Ron Paul because they had no NV ID.
I suppose they will try to vote tonight at the "Jewish" special location.
We shall see if they get the press involved.
No delegates were obligated to vote for any candidate today. That will take place at the state convention when delegates are apportioned based on the ballots cast in caucus meetings this morning. That tally will begin to be reported tonight after 5:00 pm.
Well, noob, you done good!!
Thanks for the after action report.
NEWT in COLORADO on Monday...details coming...
Thanks for being there and sharing the information here. BTTT!
My God. You guys just committed voter fraud. I can’t believe that so called conservatives did that. Sad how badly this election is showing Republicans. Morals are really being tested and I believe it is because of some of the candidates who are VERY immoral. I hope you don’t end up in jail.
Florida should abide by the NRC primary rules and award Newt the delegates he earned. It is very clear that the state cannot waive the winner take all delegates if they vote before the scheduled date...they violated that rule. Newt would have been ahead going into Nevada.
Fun to be in your fair state for this! Surprise us and shut the pundits up, Nevada!
4 of 4 Precincts Reporting
Romney Gingrich Paul Santorum
V% 34% 30% 18% 17%
Votes 34 30 18 17
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4 of 4 Precincts Reporting
6 of 6 Precincts Reporting
19 of 19 Precincts Reporting
12 of 12 Precincts Reporting
33 of 33 Precincts Reporting
Douglas County, the most conservative county in Nevada.
Mitt Romney, 41.3% 835 votes.
Newt Gingrich, 29.7% 600 votes.
Rick Santorum, 15.7% 318 votes.
Ron Paul, 13.3% 270 votes.
I note that the closer you get to SLC, the better Romney does.
It was stated on at least one site that Romney is getting 95% of the Mormon vote, and Mormons are 20% of the electorate here.
Now ask me why I insist on a clear separation of church and state!
I would say Newt is having to run against a religious mandate here, not just a normal candidate.
I view this result as skewed, not representative of the national will.
I find it interesting the Romney’s margin of victory statewide is about 10%.
His Mormon advantage here is about 20% of the total electorate.
He has not won in every county.
Newt had a weak organization here, I tried to get a yard sign but none were available.
If Newt had a strong organization he might have won Nevada DESPITE the Mormon advantage for Romney!
Romney ran a LOT of ads, ALL negative, I saw very few ads for Newt.
My overall take is that Newt still has a shot, but he needs a more active grass-root campaing and more ads, DONATIONS!
I'm asking all my friends and family this simple question, "Do all Mormons lie or only the Bishops?"
No vote for Bishop Mitt Romney. Not NEVER!
That's sad for you and your family. I think you've got your priorities screwed up. This is not just an election where you can cast a protest vote if you don't like the nominee, it's our survival at stake.
No matter what you think of Romney, Obama is worse and will finish this country off. If you care about your children and their future, you will do everything you can to get Obama out. Anything else is suicide for America. Get Obama out and you live to fight the GOP another day. Get Obama re-elected and I think you know it will be over.
Obama is the enemy, period.
You know it's all fine what you want to do but be honest. If you don't want a liar then you'd probably never vote again. Newt lied about offering backup for the wife story to ABC. They all lie.