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Gingrich Patron Said to Have Plan B: Romney [Adelson met with Koch Brothers]
NYTimes ^ | February 4, 2012 | JEFF ZELENY and JIM RUTENBERG

Posted on 02/04/2012 5:02:27 PM PST by fight_truth_decay

LAS VEGAS — Sheldon Adelson, the billionaire casino executive keeping Newt Gingrich’s presidential hopes alive, has relayed assurances to Mitt Romney that he will provide even more generous support to his candidacy if he becomes the Republican nominee, several associates said in interviews here. The signals from Mr. Adelson, whose politics are shaped in large part by his support for Israel, reflect what the associates said was his deep investment in defeating President Obama and his willingness to play a more prominent role in the Republican Party and conservative causes.

The assurances have been conveyed in response to a highly delicate campaign by Mr. Romney and his top Jewish financial supporters to dissuade Mr. Adelson from adding to the $10 million that he and his wife have given to a pro-Gingrich “super PAC,” Winning Our Future, that has been tearing into Mr. Romney through television advertising.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adelson; koch; kochbrothers; newt; romney; sheldonadelson; trump
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Adelson, who is firmly against legalized online gaming, is looking for an extra edge in protecting the interests of land based casinos in the face of growing legalization efforts. Gaming fights are currently being waged hot and heavy in battleground states like Massachusetts and Florida. Adelson recently retained a high powered lobbyist in the hopes of securing a Massachusetts gaming license. In 2004, Adelson donated smaller amounts to Romney’s previous campaigns and supported Rudy Giuliani

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Trump: real estate mogul and founder of an Atlantic City casino company says the United States should legalize Internet gambling. The company that bears his name, Trump Entertainment Resorts, is moving forward with plans to establish an online betting venture as soon as it's legal. The company says it wants to get in on the ground floor of the Internet gambling business, and is close to selecting a joint venture partner to run an online gambling operation.

BUT what do both Adelson and Trump have in common? They both want to insure the defeat of Obama.

Adelson was among conservative political financiers last weekend for the twice-yearly gathering of the billionaire industrialists Charles and David Koch near Palm Springs, Calif, where the Kochs and their like-minded colleagues discussed their efforts to ensure Mr. Obama’s defeat.

Obama, DNC was said to have amassed $1B in their war chest, but last report they claimed just $240 million.

1 posted on 02/04/2012 5:02:39 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

Harry Reid has been pushing for online gambling, which is why Adelson gave a lot to Sharron Angle in 2010.


2 posted on 02/04/2012 5:05:41 PM PST by montag813
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To: fight_truth_decay

Well.


3 posted on 02/04/2012 5:07:06 PM PST by txhurl ('We need to be sudden and relentless.' Save the canons for the whites of their eyes.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

The headline here is that the NY Times thinks Massachusetts is a “battleground” state. Can we say “out-of-touch?”


4 posted on 02/04/2012 5:07:34 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks fight_truth_decay.


5 posted on 02/04/2012 5:09:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: fight_truth_decay; Jim Robinson; kalee; TitansAFC; onyx; LuvFreeRepublic; Sea Parrot; ...
Newt Gingrich for President Ping List!

6 posted on 02/04/2012 5:09:54 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

When a billionaire id umping piles of his own money into a political campaign it is a bad sign. Whether Adelson, the Koch Bros, or Soros, the end result is that they want something. And that something is not just a candidate’s defeat or another’s triumph. They want something for themselves.


7 posted on 02/04/2012 5:12:42 PM PST by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: All
GO NEWT!!!

GO TEA PARTY!!!

8 posted on 02/04/2012 5:12:45 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: xkaydet65

Sheldon Adelson is a great American patriot.


9 posted on 02/04/2012 5:14:39 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
The assurances have been conveyed in response to a highly delicate campaign by Mr. Romney and his top Jewish financial supporters to dissuade Mr. Adelson from adding to the $10 million that he and his wife have given to a pro-Gingrich “super PAC,”

Very wierd. Romney is sure covering all his bases (not by being a good candidate, but by being duplicitous and vicious).

Having help from the Koch brothers would be good. I don't know what their religious background is, but they support a lot of good projects sponsored by churches, and accordingly are hated by the Dems.

10 posted on 02/04/2012 5:15:00 PM PST by livius
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To: fight_truth_decay
Let's see...Adelson is huge in casinos and is, as a Zionist Jew, a big supporter of Israel.

The LDS is also huge in casinos (though they don't gamble).

The missing piece of the puzzle is "where does the LDS stand on Israel?" I am guessing that Adelson knows quite well.

11 posted on 02/04/2012 5:17:13 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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To: livius

Koch brothers are behind Romney.


12 posted on 02/04/2012 5:19:21 PM PST by jennychase
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To: txhurl
Herman Cain, it was reported, attended Koch Brothers’ private biannual meetings in Palm Springs.Herman Cain held an official position in the Koch-funded group Americans for Prosperity, Dating back to 2005. etc.

There is always a Plan B, but why even leak a Plan B?

13 posted on 02/04/2012 5:20:18 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: jennychase

What are their beefs with Newt?


14 posted on 02/04/2012 5:20:44 PM PST by txhurl ('We need to be sudden and relentless.' Save the canons for the whites of their eyes.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

So, another leak by un-named sources undermining Newt’s chances. Romney plays as dirty as a Democrat.


15 posted on 02/04/2012 5:22:11 PM PST by Bizhvywt
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To: fight_truth_decay
Adelson is given top coverage by the drive by media whilst the self hating Jew, George Soros, is hardly given a mention.

Adelson and the Koch Brothers (not of the same religion btw...) are patriots while George Soros is a nut who, by his own admission, wants to play Messiah.

16 posted on 02/04/2012 5:22:34 PM PST by Stepan12
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To: jennychase
Koch brothers are behind Romney.

I don't think so...they were Tea Party supporters and Herman Cain's benefactors...and Herman and the Tea Party are aligned behind Newt.

Do you have a source for your info?

17 posted on 02/04/2012 5:24:45 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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To: fight_truth_decay

So. Romney buys off Newt backer. Free elections are bought now, and only manipulated for our viewing pleasure, to appear as if the people really had a fair shot.

Newt can’t lift a finger against a globally proportioned ambush like this.


18 posted on 02/04/2012 5:24:52 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Romnomoney buys Santorum. Newt has become a CAUSE & Rick S, a tool.)
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To: jennychase

They are? Where does that info come from?


19 posted on 02/04/2012 5:27:41 PM PST by livius
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To: Stepan12

The Dems try to go after the Koch Brothers about the pipeline but they are not involved with it. I have been watching some comments on Fox News.

I have a feeling the Koch Brothers and Adelson will be getting pressure from the dark side to jump ship.


20 posted on 02/04/2012 5:30:18 PM PST by ConfidentConservative (If my people shall humble themselves and pray,I will hear from Heaven and heal their land.)
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To: RitaOK

Guess we can’t say we’re surprised, just.. disappointed.


21 posted on 02/04/2012 5:31:22 PM PST by txhurl ('We need to be sudden and relentless.' Save the canons for the whites of their eyes.)
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To: Stepan12

Soros is a lot more than just a “self hating Jew.” He was a Nazi Zonderkommando in WWII - a Jew who collaborated with the Nazis and helped exterminate his own people. There is a special place in Hell waiting for Soros, and as far as I’m concerned, he can’t get there soon enough.


22 posted on 02/04/2012 5:34:13 PM PST by Astronaut
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To: jennychase

Not sure why he’s gone with Newt but Addelson backed McCain in 08.


23 posted on 02/04/2012 5:34:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: fight_truth_decay
The most important line buried in the middle of the article: "Mr. Adelson declined to be interviewed."

This means the article is basically a fabrication from anonymous second and third hand "sources."

Given the number of negative Newt related stories lately; all of this has the characteristics of a Romney PSYOP.

24 posted on 02/04/2012 5:35:18 PM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: xkaydet65

So true, I think we need some sort of campaign finance reform law or something. Lets play the conservative class warfare game.


25 posted on 02/04/2012 5:37:12 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: livius

Check day before yesterday release of Romney’s blunder list, Koch name was in list.
Check also super pac list.


26 posted on 02/04/2012 5:38:18 PM PST by jennychase
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To: jennychase

good freudian slip there


27 posted on 02/04/2012 5:40:02 PM PST by txhurl ('We need to be sudden and relentless.' Save the canons for the whites of their eyes.)
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To: montag813

Interesting. This could explain why Trump endorsed Romney. Since Adelson is funding Newt, what chance does Trump have to legalize online gambling? I would think Romney would be more likely to support online gambling than Newt would anyway, since liberals tend to be more pro-gambling.


28 posted on 02/04/2012 5:40:45 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: cripplecreek
Not sure why he’s gone with Newt but Addelson backed McCain in 08.

But at what point? During the primaries or general?

29 posted on 02/04/2012 5:40:57 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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To: xkaydet65

“They want something for themselves.”

Big money and big politics, the incestuous coupling that keeps the circle of power closed to outside interests.


30 posted on 02/04/2012 5:42:04 PM PST by WILLIALAL
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To: txhurl

oops
should be bundler list


31 posted on 02/04/2012 5:42:19 PM PST by jennychase
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To: jennychase

DanRiehl DanRiehl
RT @jaketapper: Santorum: “we R not going 2 win ths election if either of ths 2 guys is nominated. Let me assure U. We will not win.”
2 minutes ago


32 posted on 02/04/2012 5:43:33 PM PST by jennychase
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To: txhurl; jennychase
Teehee!

Romney's blunder list is getting LONG.

Such as his Mormonized "I don't give a gosh-darn about the poor...but then I never met anyone who was poor. Only heathen are poor!"

33 posted on 02/04/2012 5:44:19 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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To: xkaydet65

The billionaire just might be someone who supports something already in the candidate’s platform or their past record of governance. It’s not necessarily anything untoward. Besides, we all get to look at their platforms before voting. It’s up to the voter to decide if they like the platform or not. It’s pretty irrelevant whether what’s in the platform is there because the candidate thought of it or because they have a supporter who asked for it to be in there.


34 posted on 02/04/2012 5:46:10 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: jennychase

So the only way for we conservatives to be heard is if we start tithing to casinos?


35 posted on 02/04/2012 5:46:28 PM PST by txhurl ('We need to be sudden and relentless.' Save the canons for the whites of their eyes.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I can’t find info on when. Sounds like he and Gingrich have been friends for a long time. Certainly nothing of any great importance.

From CNN

>>Since 1990, Adelson has given $10.5 million in political contributions. While he has donated some to Democrats, most of his money has gone to Republicans, including President George W. Bush, Sen. John McCain and Nevada candidates Dean Heller, Sue Lowden and Joe Heck.<<

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/03/the-10-million-question-will-gingrich-meet-adelson/


36 posted on 02/04/2012 5:49:14 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Stepan12
Does this November election come down to
The Battle of the Financial Titans :

David H. Koch and Charles G. Koch, Sheldon Adelson, Donald Trump VS George Soros, Donald Sussman [new billionaire husband of [D} Chellie Pingre-ME {news} ] & _______?

37 posted on 02/04/2012 5:49:22 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: cripplecreek

It sounds to me that this is coming down to a battle of the billionaires. Adelman and the Koch Brothers (all of whom love America and are conservative) have probably 60-70 billion between them and that puts the LDS and Soros to shame.


38 posted on 02/04/2012 5:57:03 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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To: cripplecreek
Perhaps he wants Romney to provide a favor in exchange for stopping support to Newt:

The assurances have been conveyed in response to a highly delicate campaign by Mr. Romney and his top Jewish financial supporters to dissuade Mr. Adelson from adding to the $10 million that he and his wife have given

39 posted on 02/04/2012 5:59:10 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: fight_truth_decay

Wasn’t there a thread this afternoon that said the Adelson just hosted a big fund raiser with sixty high money donors at it....It seems more likely that the Press Conference has to do with a large amount of money being donated to a PAC

NYT is playing mind games with Newt’s base.


40 posted on 02/04/2012 5:59:48 PM PST by hoosiermama (FR Unite... Get active contacting MSM, RNC. etc... freepmail : Mountain Mary.)
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To: txhurl

That’s where the LDS tithes have been going.


41 posted on 02/04/2012 6:00:02 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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To: fight_truth_decay

Obama’s list of billionaire contributors is lengthy: Marc Benioff, Neil Blum, Penny Pritzker, Marc Lasry, David Shaw, Kenneth Griffin, Steve Bing, to name a few...


42 posted on 02/04/2012 6:00:59 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Ozymandias Ghost

DECLINED TO BE INTERVIEWED could also mean he told them F... OOps better stop there.


43 posted on 02/04/2012 6:03:46 PM PST by hoosiermama (FR Unite... Get active contacting MSM, RNC. etc... freepmail : Mountain Mary.)
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To: RoosterRedux

And the LDS uses Goodwill retail to scramble up the cash.

I think today is a record, three times already I want OFF this planet.


44 posted on 02/04/2012 6:07:07 PM PST by txhurl ('We need to be sudden and relentless.' Save the canons for the whites of their eyes.)
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To: Ozymandias Ghost
Why would he want to respond? He is safer not to. These guys do all attend the Koch Bros financial summit, for lack of a better description.

Herman Cain has attended and may have done so this time [outside Palm Springs] as well--they all have ties.

I would suggest people read this article closely.

Fox Business Stuart Varney interviewed Trump this past week and T said that Newt was being used to train Romney or "was useful" to make R tough in the upcoming verses Obama. Of course it was Trump speaking and he plays the game--but we still have that meeting which takes place every year organized by the Brothers and Adelson is a part of that financial Titan group in attendance.

Then again Adelson said that he and his wife would support Newt as long as Newt stayed in..so the Plan B which would have to be expected, but I would not have announced as some have. They are, however, all in unison about removing "Obama" from office.

And maybe the "associates" are Trumps people talking.

I guess we stay tuned...

45 posted on 02/04/2012 6:09:55 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: txhurl

Off this planet for me too. I would gladly colonize the Moon or Mars...just get me outta here!


46 posted on 02/04/2012 6:16:03 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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47 posted on 02/04/2012 6:19:19 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: fight_truth_decay; All
Truth is the many supposed Newt supporters were never serious about Newt even here.

If they were there would be 8 or 10 Adelsons's out there right now all forking over 5 million at a time for Newt and it would have started in in SC. Not now when its too late.

I'm guilty myself. I know two people who could fork over that kind of money and I failed to get them to do it. And I bet there are others on this forum who know billionaire types as well. Where's the money? ITs one thing to talk a good fight yet another to fail to deliver.

We have failed both on Newt and on the eligibility issue. We knew all along we needed a Mark Levin style firm or we were spinning our wheels yet we let Orly bite the dust. No one's fault but our own.

MONEY talks BS walks.

48 posted on 02/04/2012 6:21:06 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Newt might be being used to train Romney, but he hates Romney and the training isn't working (Romney is still an idiot!).

Newt is the only guy capable of pulling America back from this Event Horizon.

Newt is the only person with the historical perspective and detailed understanding necessary to save this country.

49 posted on 02/04/2012 6:22:11 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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To: hoosiermama
But that money will follow where ever Adelson goes..if there is a Plan B. Vegas is betting on Romney at this point: A few minutes ago:

5 percent of precincts reporting, Romney leads with 37 percent. Ron Paul has 29 percent, followed by Newt Gingrich with 20 percent and Rick Santorum with 13 percent. Nevada is friendly territory for Romney, having overwhelmingly supported him in 2008. Entrance polls Saturday evening showed Romney crushing the competition among those who value beating President Obama in November as the most important quality in a GOP candidate.

The polls also showed Romney leading the field by double digits among evangelical Christian caucus-goers... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/04/romney-takes-early-lead-in-nevada-caucuses/

50 posted on 02/04/2012 6:24:00 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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