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Unreal: Seattle Libraries Approve Hardcore Porn-Watching in Front of Children
The Gateway Pundit ^ | February 3, 2012 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 02/04/2012 11:15:57 PM PST by beaversmom

Seattle libraries will not allow patrons to eat or sleep or go barefoot. But they can watch all the hardcore porn they want in front of children. Seattle PI reported:

The Seattle Public Library has a long list of rules of things you can’t do in the library, to ensure “comfort and safety” of staff and patrons. You can’t eat, sleep, look like you’re sleeping, be barefoot, be too stinky or talk too loudly.

But you can watch graphic porn on a public computer in front of kids. Despite repeated complaints from female patrons about men watching porn in full view of their children, the library has held fast to its policy of unfettered online access for grown-ups.

The reason: It’s not in the business of censorship.

The latest dust-up comes after a mother with her two kids saw a man watching “hard-core porn” at the Lake City library and complained. When the librarian refused to ask the man move to a less visible screen, Julie Howe wrote the library, the media and lawyers and got on KUOW.

“It was very shocking,” said Howe, whose 10-year-old girl had seen the man’s screen and cried that night. But, she acknowledged, “it’s not an easy one to solve.”

Other libraries also allow porn

The library’s position was mirrored elsewhere. The King County Library System has a similar policy, of filtering kids’ access on computers, while allowing adults to roam freely. The American Library Association endorses the same stance.

“Sometimes, in a library, you’re going to see information that’s going to make you uncomfortable,” Barbara Jones, director of the association’s intellectual freedom office, said on KUOW Wednesday.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: frhf; libraryporn; moralabsolutes; porn; sickos
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1 posted on 02/04/2012 11:16:04 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Sickening. Public libraries are for research and education.

Porn and other questionable material is for private residences only. It’s so simple, yet obviously way to complicated for our corrupt local governments.


2 posted on 02/04/2012 11:27:06 PM PST by Downinthedixie (ABO)
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These #s deserve a figurative whack in the side of the head.


3 posted on 02/04/2012 11:27:13 PM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: beaversmom

but townhall.com is blocked for all users right?


4 posted on 02/04/2012 11:27:20 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: beaversmom

The ACLU has the King County Libraries walking on ice.


5 posted on 02/04/2012 11:32:25 PM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: beaversmom

This has been going on in the King County Library system as well. As long they have a privacy screen, the libraries take a “its none of our business” approach.


6 posted on 02/04/2012 11:49:52 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: beaversmom

This is just so insane! :-(

Some of the porn on the internet is pure filth, far beyond what most normal folk can even imagine. Even to describe some of it in words is sickening.

If I had glimpsed something like the worst of it when I was a kid I would have been in shock.... I was a kid in the 60’s...my goodness how normal and safe the 60’s were compared to now.


7 posted on 02/04/2012 11:55:33 PM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: beaversmom

“...censorship” my eye. That’s a lie from the pit of hell. Pornography is the exploitation of humans for the sake of sexual gratification. It’s abhorrent and corrosive to any society.

The Seattle library staff, as well as those like it, are porn peddlers. Plain and simple.

Parents, if you are truly concerned about your child’s psychological, physical, and spiritual well being, either move out of WA, or find an alternative to the public library. You can never erase the images your children see while those perverts are viewing porn.


8 posted on 02/04/2012 11:59:12 PM PST by This Just In
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To: beaversmom

AmeriSoc now permitting open “prolefeed” to debase the proles to even greater depths.


9 posted on 02/05/2012 12:17:01 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: This Just In

This Just In: “Pornography is the exploitation of humans for the sake of sexual gratification. It’s abhorrent and corrosive to any society.”

Agreed. In a free society, I understand people should have a lot of liberty (not unlimited) to do what they want with their bodies. However, communities should also have the right to regulate public behavior. Back when I was young, the nation believed in community standards. The left believes virtually everything needs regulated, even light bulbs, but porn? Have at it...in public...in front of children.

What one does in private is one thing. What one does in public is something completely different, and the standards of public behavior should (must) be higher in a normal, civil society. An adult male who would view porn in front of children is one sick, selfish puppy who deserves public scorn if not jail.


10 posted on 02/05/2012 12:33:12 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can be it. Being good? Now that's something special!)
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To: narses

Ping - a topic of interest.


11 posted on 02/05/2012 12:41:14 AM PST by BlackVeil
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To: Olog-hai

prolefeed? I think I understand your point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proles

Yeah. Give the proles sex and games so they don’t realize they are slaves.


12 posted on 02/05/2012 1:06:20 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can be it. Being good? Now that's something special!)
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To: CitizenUSA; Olog-hai

Proletariats....


13 posted on 02/05/2012 1:27:25 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: beaversmom

Have them go to the County Board or the City Council. The library rules ultimately can be dictated by the electeds. The librarians are employees who must implement policy.


14 posted on 02/05/2012 1:45:17 AM PST by marsh2
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To: beaversmom

All King’s County Freepers should do the following, since the library is on record, saying it’s not in the business censorship..... Log time on their computers, load up this article, and print out $2 worth of copies. Then, yellow highlight the key points, especially and names of officials, and tape the article in areas for all to see. Get the word out that adult men are allowed to import whatever filth into a public library through county govt owned computer servers. Rinse. Repeat.


15 posted on 02/05/2012 1:46:00 AM PST by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: beaversmom

From what I’ve observed, the American library association pushes libraries to defend and promote pornography and homosexuality, but censor and demonize those who think otherwise. The ALA itself is silent when it comes to defending conservative opinions. They pretend they are defenders of freedom of speech issue, but they’re not. They are always demonizing the political right and stifling their voices.


16 posted on 02/05/2012 2:14:37 AM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: beaversmom

Unreal? Seattle?
No.. That place is as foul a toilet as San Fransicko.

Anyway, who ever goes to a stinking library anymore besides pedophiles and perverts?


17 posted on 02/05/2012 2:19:40 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: CitizenUSA
There is way to sabotage those library computers without revealing the ID of who did it. Most porn websites have viruses. If you click on the right one, it can completely shut down the computer and cause it to crash even if they have a good virus protection program. Nothing but a blue screen which will cost the library much time and money to fix. After this happens to enough computers on a regular basis, the dorks who allow porn will be forced to block porn sites.

Would be even better if the screen automatically displayed a picture of Jesus watching you when a porn site was accessed.

18 posted on 02/05/2012 2:34:29 AM PST by Evil Slayer
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

I wonder if videos of bloody abortions are allowed. It would be great for a group of college prolifers to go to the library and quietly conduct that experiment.

I bet censorship would ensue.


19 posted on 02/05/2012 4:27:18 AM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: beaversmom

How is this not some form of child abuse?


20 posted on 02/05/2012 4:30:39 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Evil Slayer

Same thing in Topeka. Don’t count on the library board or the electeds to help out. They’ll be completely cowed after your local press accuses you, the parent, of being a right-wing religious zealot who wants to kill the first amendment. Then every liberal drama queen in the county will demand a cameo.


21 posted on 02/05/2012 4:31:10 AM PST by Kanzan
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To: beaversmom
The reason: It’s not in the business of censorship.

BS - if that was the real concern, they could provide enclosures to keep it from being visible to others and insist on earphones. What they really want to do is indoctrinate and desensitize the children.

22 posted on 02/05/2012 4:32:15 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: trebb

Where do people think the libraries get their funding? It sure as hell doesn’t come from over-due book fines, it comes from the public who pay taxes. Get after the County Boards to stop the funding.


23 posted on 02/05/2012 4:44:20 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: trebb
De-fund the pensions of these idiots...write letters complaining to the local officials, library boards and ethics panels of their professional associations complaining about this perversion. Call the police to complain about the pervert librarians who are allowing child abuse. Don't just sit back and look the other way. This yet another example of the creep of insidious liberal asshat-edness.
24 posted on 02/05/2012 4:45:27 AM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: driftdiver
How is this not some form of child abuse?

You might actually have made more headway with this approach.

Call the cops, have the man arrested for child abuse.

25 posted on 02/05/2012 4:47:10 AM PST by Lazamataz (Yes, I am THAT Conservative.)
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To: beaversmom

Isn’t this ‘corruption of a minor?’

Would the library be OK with me handing out porn photos in the childrens’ room?

Or would they mind if my friends and I marched around their front door with giant porn photos on signs?

I am stunned that Seattle doesn’t allow smelly people in the libraries. I would think the ACLU would be against this.


26 posted on 02/05/2012 5:03:21 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: beaversmom; All
What Julie Howe could have done, what ANY parent or concerned citizen witnessing some dirtbag in the Seattle Public Library watching porn which is easily seen by minors, is to:

a.) Take a quick picture of the perp in front of the computer terminal, preferably with the screen showing the porn being viewed at that moment, date & time stamped.

b.) Call 911 and report a crime in progress, request an officer respond to the library site.

c.) When the officers arrive, present them with the picture taken of the perp, and hand them the following:

9.68.130 - Revised Code of Washington
"Sexually explicit material" — Defined — Unlawful display.


(1) A person is guilty of unlawful display of sexually explicit material if he or she knowingly exhibits such material on a viewing screen so that the sexually explicit material is easily visible from a public thoroughfare*, park or playground or from one or more family dwelling units.

(2) "Sexually explicit material" as that term is used in this section means any pictorial material displaying direct physical stimulation of unclothed genitals, masturbation, sodomy (i.e. bestiality or oral or anal intercourse), flagellation or torture in the context of a sexual relationship, or emphasizing the depiction of adult human genitals: PROVIDED HOWEVER, That works of art or of anthropological significance shall not be deemed to be within the foregoing definition.

(3) Any person who violates subsection (1) of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.


* - as the public library is NOT private property, and is open to the public, the aisles and pathways within that facility may be construed as a 'public thoroughfare'.

Then speak those citizen-empowering words:
"Officer? Do Your Duty, Thank You"
27 posted on 02/05/2012 5:05:10 AM PST by mkjessup (Let's do to Mitt what his Irish Setter did to him while tied to the roof rack of his station wagon!)
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To: beaversmom

‘The reason: It’s not in the business of censorship.’

Mark Twain.

I’d love to see people watching program that involves people smoking cigaretts.

Simple fix here: Stop patronizing the Library. If you wish to continue however then go in and rip out the computers and toss them into the street.


28 posted on 02/05/2012 5:06:19 AM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: beaversmom
The mentally ill homeless have a right to porn.

Its in the Constitution ya know...

I wonder if there is a sign that says "feel free to masturbate, just don't take off your shirt or shoes and don't fall asleep, your public library has standards..."

29 posted on 02/05/2012 5:12:21 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
They pretend they are defenders of freedom of speech issue, but they’re not.

This is especially apparent in old libraries with books from a different era on the shelves. The books are censored such that the only books that survive are the ones that didn't go against the grain of any passing politically correct fad during the last 100 years. Very few books make it.

30 posted on 02/05/2012 5:21:40 AM PST by Reeses
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31 posted on 02/05/2012 5:23:58 AM PST by narses
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To: beaversmom

When a child is kidnapped, molested & raped, then the outcry. Evil, sick, upsidedown world we’re living in.


32 posted on 02/05/2012 5:32:19 AM PST by FES0844
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To: beaversmom; wagglebee

I totally and completely disagree with everything the people defending this are saying about it. This is not a matter of restricting information - this is a matter of displaying material that in any other setting would get the person charged with a form of sexual assault against a minor (it’s called different things in different states).

I could see the argument for the public library to offer books and titles for borrowing, but NOT for viewing within the library itself, and especially not in the full view of the general public. People do have a right not to be exposed to graphic sexuality unless they choose to do so - it’s why public indecency is a crime. Some criminals’ fetishes involve shock exposure to strangers (adults and children alike - they get their jollies by making others uncomfortable), and this type of activity in a public setting is right up their alley.

This is the reason we have DVD players and cable tv in our homes, and the reason there are adult store with “viewing rooms”. This is not socially acceptable behavior, and it’s definitely criminally negligent on the part of the PUBLIC Library System officials to allow exposure of children to this type of activity.

If I were a parent I would be livid if this were my community library. I would definitely HAVE to boycott the library as long as this behavior was allowed, and not treated like the serious problem it is.

This world is fast falling down a hole I don’t think it’s ready for in the least...

Isaiah 5:20 (KJV)
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!


33 posted on 02/05/2012 5:41:42 AM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: mkjessup

EXACTLY! Thanks for posting that.


34 posted on 02/05/2012 5:43:31 AM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: beaversmom
the library has held fast to its policy of unfettered online access for grown-ups.

Kiddy Porn too?
Well, isn't that precious....

35 posted on 02/05/2012 6:08:00 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: CitizenUSA

“An adult male who would view porn in front of children is one sick, selfish puppy who deserves public scorn if not jail.”


Totally nailed it. People, both men and women, watch or look at porn. That is their choice - it is their soul. But do that stuff at home!

Wonder what the library’s position would be on a pair of library users having actual sex there? Is it OK if it is in the stacks, or in front of the door?

There is too much sexualization being thrown at kids already. Just look at almost any magazine ad, heck, you are of an age to remember the Sears catalogue when it tried to go trendy with the underwear and nightwear. Kids don’t need more graphic stuff.

We taught our kids and grandkids “company manners,” “public manners,” and “private manners.” Everything now seems to be designed to teach no manners.
Kids have the right to be kids. In any healthy society, the welfare of a child trumps the rights of an adult.


36 posted on 02/05/2012 6:36:46 AM PST by EnglishCon
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To: beaversmom

So open minded their brains are falling out.


37 posted on 02/05/2012 6:58:06 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Bobalu

The ‘60s are the reason there is porn in the library.


38 posted on 02/05/2012 7:01:27 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I do. But thanks!!!


39 posted on 02/05/2012 7:23:23 AM PST by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

ALA is an openly Communist union that supports, endorses, and adores Fidel Castro. When courageous Cubans formed independent libraries out of their homes to lend people books that were not available due to the CENSORSHIP of the Cuban govt, and were arrested and imprisoned, the ALA publicly sided with...the Cuban govt.


40 posted on 02/05/2012 7:31:22 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: beaversmom

Bush’s fault!


41 posted on 02/05/2012 8:40:14 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: beaversmom

It’s time to simply start closing libraries. They served their purpose, just like the Ice Man, the Milk Man, the Egg Man, etc. They are relics of another age. Keep the books stored away for our post-EMP days, but end the concept of the public library.

...and make DAMN SURE that the librarians understand that it was THEIR ATTITUDE that caused them to be tossed out of work.


42 posted on 02/05/2012 9:08:24 AM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Newt will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: Downinthedixie

The viewers aren’t watchimg porn, they are conducting socialogical studies on library users and their reaction to the appearance of someone watching porn.

Geez! Didn’t you know that? They probably have an 18 million dollar Federal grant for the study, too.

:-P


43 posted on 02/05/2012 10:35:47 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: beaversmom

I have a 92 year old father who is scammed by Nigerian internet scammers. We destroyed the internet port on his computer at home, so he goes to the public library to do it. I have reported it to the city library - but they won’t do anything about it. Same principle - a crime is being committed at a public facility using city equipment. Yu would think they would be held complicit in the crime of elder abuse.


44 posted on 02/05/2012 10:55:30 AM PST by marsh2
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To: Bobalu
I was a kid in the 60’s...my goodness how normal and safe the 60’s were compared to now.,?I>

40's and 50's for this geezer...and the 60's were a shock even as a young adult.

45 posted on 02/05/2012 11:08:59 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Lancey Howard

Millions of homeschoolers nationwide


46 posted on 02/05/2012 11:24:07 AM PST by Shimmer1 (No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.)
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To: Shimmer1

Not me. I avoid libraries like the plague.

Nasty horrible people go there. The screens aren’t safe and the bathrooms aren’t safe. Since my nine-year-old got attacked in a bathroom, we don’t go unless I escort them.


47 posted on 02/05/2012 1:18:33 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Shimmer1
Millions of homeschoolers nationwide

They don't own computers?

48 posted on 02/05/2012 3:12:32 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: FES0844

Oh, children have already been molested/raped in libraries by the “patrons”. Not sure about kidnapped though. The perverts get all riled up by watching their faggot/pedophile porn and then go act it out on children.

The tree needs watering.


49 posted on 02/05/2012 3:18:08 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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The only reason pornography is legal is because porn producers, Larry Flynt in particular, the ACLU and a leftist dominated SCOTUS decided that obscenity, sexually graphic images and now live sex shows fall under the "freedom of the press". Utter nonsense. And Librarians are ultra leftists (or enough of them to steer the boat that way).

SEPARATION OF LIBRARIES AND STATE! Stop wasting tax money or worse than wasting it, using it to provide perverts with their porn fix! Libraries could be private with small fees, or public but TOTAL local control and tell the ACLU and ALA to stuff it!!!

50 posted on 02/05/2012 3:18:49 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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