Skip to comments.Gingrich’s Speech — How to Make a Bad Night Worse
Posted on 02/05/2012 3:49:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Newt Gingrichs postNevada caucus speech included about three minutes of inspired moments about issues and ideas in his usual imaginative and intellectually robust style. So why does he not just stay with that given that he often seems more dynamic and glib than Romney in his attacks on Obama, and not long ago gained ground despite the attacks against him? Instead, he now turns ad nauseam to the tired reasons why he loses yes, including lots of Mormons in Nevada and ends up as Richard Nixon not going to get kicked around any more.
But whether he knows it or not, Gingrich is becoming a caricature of petulance: no concession in Nevada, no call to Romney, no awareness that his inability to raise money at levels of a political rival or to match a competing campaign organization is not necessarily unfair. Thats politics, and Gingrich knows it. I dont understand why he thinks now losing to Romney in 2012 is solely due to Romneys innate deviousness in a way McCain beating Romney in 2008 was not given that Romney was about the same in both 2008 and 2012. Gingrich seems oblivious to the fact that McCains style and history gave him advantages over Romneys money and hardball in ways Gingrichs own proven liabilities apparently do not.
Gingrich should carefully play a tape of his postNevada caucus performance, and then he would quickly grasp that it was little more than a litany of excuses, whining, and accusations characterized by stream-of-conscious confessionals and rambling repetitions. And, I think, will hurt him more than anything yet in the campaign.
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I used to have the utmost respect for VDH. He defended Sarah Palin while many of his colleagues were trying to destroy her. Now they are trying to destroy Newt, and Hansen is piling on.
My backside to him.
I used to have the utmost respect for VDH. He defended Sarah Palin while many of his colleagues were trying to destroy her. Now they are trying to destroy Newt, and Hanson is piling on.
My backside to him.
“RINO-Rom comes across as fiery, fresh and friendly.”
Romney...fiery, fresh, and friendly....??
HAHAHAHA! :::::gasp, choke:::: LOL!
“hair and his stage makeup. Aint a pretty sight. Hes hair is almost as white as Newts and he has blotches on his face.
Makeup works wonders.”
Yes, he’s pretty bloated and baggy. If should get the nomination and somehow manage to win the election, give him a couple of years in office and see what he looks like then. You’ll think Fred Flintstone is sitting in the Oval Office.
What do they expect him to say when Romney has not debated on the issues but rather lied about Newt and making personal attacks in the debates and Media ads? Stand there and say what a nice guy Romney is? The thrust of the questions to Newt by the MSM are always deliberately focused in such a manner that Newt's only option is to defend himself by pointing out the serious character flaws Romney has and an aversion for telling the truth with a propensity for intentionally distorting facts.
Again, do you expect Newt to say what a nice person Romney is after all this? Newt's an excellent debater and fighter handling himself almost perfectly in every news conference situation and that is exactly what is needed to take down Obama, the establishment Republicans, the establishment Democrats, and that scares the hell out of all of them. Will Newt make mistakes in the future and as president? Of course! But nothing as compared to Romney who is a corporatist insider and obvious establishment Republican.
As for Santorum not being an establishment Republican, I have two words for you Arlen Spector! Santorum went with the establishment Republicans in backing Spector over Tomey (sp?), the conservative. Although the same can be said of Newt in the NY 23rd race, at least Newt admitted he was wrong. By virtue of the fact Santorum remains in the race with no apparent road to victory, in my opinion, would be indicative of his being a spoiler at the behest of the establishment Republicans.
Those are the facts, like them or not, that we have been dealt. For myself, Newt is the only answer to turning this country around and getting it back on course. Ponder this . if Romney per chance won the presidency, how would he and the establishment Republicans deal with the conservative movement? With Romney as the head of the Republican party, how many decades would it take conservatives to regain it's present status, if ever?
Conservatives better unite and work their buns off to get Newt the presidency!
“Youre not alone. I feel the exact same way about Rush. He has always been a hero of conservatism to me. The last few weeks, to say Ive been disappointed in him would be an understatement!”
Same here. Lately Rush has been playing the equivocation game as well as Bill O’Reilly. He can’t say a positive thing about Newt without quickly disclaiming, “Now I’m not defending Newt!” I don’t find three hours of that worth listening to.
“Mitt is ahead in all the polls to win in these states. Even Newts major backer of super pacs Casino magnate Sheldon Adelson has said he would have no trouble supporting Mitt if he is the nominee. Adelson knows the odds of Mitt Winning and is adjusting. Newt may want to burn bridges and tear down the chances of defeating Obama in November because he puts Newt ahead of Country..isnt it time you all adjusted?”
Adjusted to what? To supporting that despicable, loathsome, vicious, corrupt, rotten, wicked, puffed-up phony cult member? Forget it. I won’t soil my hands.
But you go ahead if you want to. I see from your previous posts that you love Mitt. You even refer to those of us who see him for what he is as “self-righteous religious moralists.” I prefer to just call it discernment.
I've tried and tried to figure out what Zerobama meant by that remark, and my only viable theory is this:
He probably was referring to the 57 "jurisdictions" that send delegates to the Dhimmi National Convention, to wit:
50 states, plus
51. The District of Columbia
52. Puerto Rico
53. U. S. Virgin Islands
54. American Samoa
55. Commonwealth of the Northern Mariannas
57. "Democrats Abroad" (And yes, they do have a primary.)
But for the life of me, I sure cain't come up with the 58th!
With Newt we see the redemption of God...
Something that Willard Mitt Romney needs but doesnt understand and thinks he can do without...
Sorry, but this guy has been running on high octane taking it right to the Dems and the media; and all you can do is sit here and nitpick about him being off his game?
As I said, the Left loves “Conservatives” like you who make their jobs so much easier in destroying our candidates. Hmmm, let me a guess...you're for Santorum...maybe Paul? Don't worry, they're castigating will be coming sooner rather than later.
You have to say one thing about the Dems, they are loyal to their members...no matter what.
Sadly, if Obama wins, it's because we've doomed ourselves. Here's a thought; if you can do better than Newt...why aren't you running? Seriously; show us (and Newt) how it's done.
>> There are five more events before Super Tuesday on Apr 6 . . . . Mitt is ahead in all the polls to win in these states <<
It’s said that the cat has nine lives. And maybe Newt can survive nine “near-death” experiences. So here’s a tally:
1. Newt was removed as Speaker in 1998. A definite near-death experience. But Newt recovers, to become a multi-millionaire Washington influence peddler and best-selling author.
2. In 2012, the “new Newt” enters the GOP POTUS race and soon calls Paul Ryan’s plan “right-wing social engineering.” The conservative punditry opines that Newt is finished. Then his NH campaign staff quits, and the MSM joins the Greek chorus who proclaim Newt’s demise.
3. Newt comes roaring back in Iowa, but again is knocked flat by Romney’s and Paul’s negative ad campaigns. He suffers further humiliation in the NH primary. Then just as it appears that he might do well in SC, Newt launches his attack against Bain. The anti-capitalist rhetoric is promptly denounced by leading lights of conservatism, including many Gingrich supporters, and Newt’s SC poll numbers fall thru the floor.
4. But no, after merely ten more days, Newt scores a historic victory in SC. It’s on to FL, where the polls show him with an impressive lead. Then comes the actual FL vote, and Newt is left bleeding on the floor, all but dead. Still, he limps to NV, where’s he hit again by the Romeny bulldozer. Still resilient, Newt courageously holds a big press conference and vows to live for another fight.
Up to now, Newt has lived thru four major knockouts. And given the old “Rule of Nine Lives,” perhaps he has five more chances to rise from his recurring near-death experiences. Let’s do some counting:
5. Colorado — Romney is poised to win big. Gingrich likely to be knocked down again.
6. Arizona — definite Romney territory, with losta Mormons and lotsa retirees. A probable blow-out for the Bane from Bain.
7. Michigan — Are you kidding? Will go strongly for native son Romney. Newt doesn’t stand a chance.
8. Washington — an extension of “greater New England.” Full of moderate voters and GOP-E types. Another likely KO for Romney over Gingrich.
So it may turn out that Newt has one more “life to live” after Washington. That is, perhaps he can survive one more humiliating loss, then make a big comeback. At that point, however, I’d say he’s gotta run the table with a string of decisive victories in state after state. It can be done, especially if Adelson keeps the dollars flowing to the pro-Gingrich SuperPac. On the other hand, at this juncture, I sure wouldn’t lay down my own chips on Newt.
>> would be better received if he could project more the image of a happy warrior. <<
Yeah, and while we’re at it, let’s whistle past the graveyard. A 68-year-old leopard isn’t going change his spots and grow a “smiley face” between now and November 2012. Simply ain’t gonna happen. Human nature is just that way.
I didn’t see the same presser you saw.
You have worded your reaction exactly the same as the MSM/LSM worded theirs.
THat’s not even my evaluation of it, much less would I attack Newt publicly even if I THOUGHT it.
It won’t help defeat Obama, to attack Newt and switch to Santorum.
It only hurts Newt’s candidacy.
The other goals of defeating Romney and Obama will not be met by attacking Newt and leaving him.
I was gonna say!
I was gonna say, “Do WHUUUUUT?”
That may well be true; however, I believe my observation is still valid.
I don't believe I am “whistling past the graveyard;” as I am well aware of Newt's history and have had, and posted, my own doubts about his being able to sustain a campaign w/o “imploding.” I really see no other options out there for Conservatism. So, for me, it's between Romney and Newt. My choice, limited though it is, is Newt.
Nope. As far as I can see, there is little to no substantive difference between Obama and Romney on just about any issue of importance. As such, it doesn't really matter which one won in Novermber, if Romney got the nomination. Either way, we get a pro-abort, pro-gay, pro-"progressive" economics guy who will give us terrible judge choices, keep ObamaCare as is, and push off socialistic fiscal policies onto the country. In fact, having Romney in office to do all that might even be worse than Obama, since it would damage the "conservative" label for another decade (since most people ignorantly equate "conservative" and "Republican").
So no, I don't buy all this junk from these people telling me we just HAVE to get Obama out of there AT ALL COSTS!!!!!
No we don't. Not if it means replacing him with a Republican who will do the same thing.
Frankly, if Romney is the nominee, then I will cease to be a Republican forever and for all time. In fact, I'd love to see a third party rise to present the voters with an option to the twin heads of the socialism snake. Eve, or perhaps ESPECIALLY, if it meant Romney loses. It's time for conservatives to let the GOP-e know that they can no longer run this game on us. They can no longer buy elections and smear our candidates with outright lies. they want to play that game, then I'm all for going nukular on them.
>> I really see no other options out there for Conservatism. <<
The option I see is to work like hell for a GOP takeover of the Senate and continued GOP control of the House.
Then, whether next year’s POTUS is Obama or Romney (and it almost surely will be one or the other), monstrosities like Dodd-Frank and Obamacare can be sharply curtailed — even if not repealed — and no more Sotamayors and no more Kagans will find their ways to the SCOTUS.
“His reputation as a flipflopper was earned the hardway ~ by duplicity.”
He’s more duplicitous than average, but nowhere near the worst.
Still, that’s why it would be wise for those who make a deal with him to disclose some of the details. So he could be held to it.
From what I heard, Mitt did call Newt when Newt won SC. Suposedly that set the “standard” which makes no sense to me. Once the overall contest is over, it’s good manners to congratulate your opponent, not after each individual battle.
I should've been more specific. I was commenting on the primary candidates; not alternative strategies for Conservatives.
I agree w/your Congressional strategy and plan to employ it.
As a related issue: I am already planning to vote for (shudder) Ron Paul in the VA GOP pseudo-Primary; which, as you are probably aware, was "rigged" by the state GOP, headed by Gov McDonnell, so that we have to choose between Romney and Paul; no other names appear on the ballot and no "write-ins" are allowed.
PROTEST VOTE for Ron Paul in the VA GOP PRIMARY!!!
Totally agree. I’ve even met him and he has a supercilious, “I’m way smarter than any of you” attitude. I also don’t like the fact that he kept “trading up” with his wives. Obama’s minions would eat him up. That being said I would vote for Pinochicco over Obama. We’ve got to get him out!
I did see yesterday Greg Jarrett ask a Romney supporter about why 42% of republicans dislike Romney and about why people in the conservative base will not support Romney. And he just couldn’t answer it. He kept deflecting to how Myth could win the general and was the best candidate and won New Hampshire and Florida. He really gave a weak defense to Romney.
Then Kelly Anne Conway was on later and hammered away at Brad Blakeman who as for Romney. Kelly is for Newt. She really gave it to Brad. Then even later Michael Reagan debated Ann Coulter and he was doing a good job but idiot Myth came on stage to talk and they cut away.
So at least there are a few people out there defending Newt. Kudos also to Greg for asking questions that tripped up a Romney supporter guy.
I call ‘em like I see ‘em!!! Just so you know......politics is a dirty game!!! Newt....like any other politician has mucho baggage!!! And...he ain’t the perfect conservative, either, not after his NY-10 betrayal, or his loving it up with Nancy Pelosi, or cuddling up to Al Sharpton!!! His “sour grapes” rants have sunk him. You can believe in and support whomever you wish. I’m more pragmatic, I think. I simply want POTUS Barack Hussein Obama and his “destroy America” Democrat Party massively defeated come, November, 2012!!!
So.....you guys can beat and whip on me all you want....Newt Gingrich is toast, and...he toasted himself!!! Romney, Paul and my guy, Rick Santorum outclass him by a mile!!! My dad used to tell me a man or woman that has no humility, no tact, no diplomacy, no humbleness, is one you don’t want to hang out with. Sorry......folks, I love this site and all the folks that post, but....the truth is still the truth. We are fighting to save our country and...little, ego driven folks is the last thing we need!!! We already have one in the White House!!!
Sadly Victor Davis Hansen is probably a Mitt shill.
Me too!! since 1992... what’s the deal?? I’ve come to realize that I listen to Rush because he agrees with me...not because I agree with him
What we need are CLOSED PRIMARIES
I agree, voters and political reporters have unfairly confused the two.
But that is Newt's fault.
He consciously chose to break a long political tradition.
He chose to have a post-election press conference BEFORE he gave a speech to his supporters.
That was a bad political decision, and probably a reckless decision.
I'll vote for Newt if he's nominated.
But he is a badly diminished shell of the man who led the Republican Revolution in 1994.
VDH is nobody's "shill." He might be for Romney, I can't tell from his writing. But when he offers a critique, it's worth thinking about. I believe he's correct in his advice to Newt to get back on message and stop the mud-wrestling.
It may not be fair, but Newt is particularly bad at it. He should focus on what he's good at which is inspiring people.
We can have them any time we like.
But the GOP - or Conservatives - have to pay for them.
Today, state taxpayers pay for our primaries.
When the state pays, the state makes the rules.
We can be as negative as we like. But it's beyond foolish to tar and feather a dependably conservative writer because he criticized the tactics -- not the ideas, mind you, which he praised -- but the campaign tactics of our candidate.
Too many of Newt's supporters are getting as hysterical at perceived criticism as Palin's were. It's very annoying not to be able to have a discussion about Newt, about both his successes and his failures without being called names or being insulted. [That last is not any reference to you]
In the case of Virginia we don't even have partisan registration ~ which we need first.
But as far as changing the rules here was concerned, it was the Party's rules that screwed everything up.
The big Republican dogs changed them during the period for collecting signatures on nominating petitions.
I think we also need to purge Virginia's Republican party of cheaters and frauds.
Next time take it like a man ~ it's your responsibility to FIX YOUR GRAMMAR, not mine.
Well.....compared to my boy Newt? Yeah. Newt always looks tired and angry.
Every Election Cycle, people get all hyped up over the possibility of a Brokered Convention. The last time that happened was in 1952 when the Dems nominated Gov. Adlai Stevenson of Illinois; 60 years ago. It won’t happen, my friend. Someone will get the “Big Mo” and get the Delegates. But, hey, I’d love to see it.
Yeah, check my posting history, Einstein. I've been for Newt since the second debate. You will find ME in the first two debates telling everyone Newt was who we needed when the rest were gushing over Bachman and Cain. I've been a Newt fan since '94. Somewhere along the way he lost his edge.
Thank you. The whole thing is set up to allow independents to pick our nominee.
I listened to Newt and he was most passionate about the misinformation from Mitt during the second Florida debate. The message I got was that Newt will begin to dismantle the Mitt message in the next debates. Newt told how he held back his response in that last Florida debate. He revealed in the presser that the misinformation that Romney gave had him so outraged, that he did not have words for them. He revealed that he had never experienced such outrageous behavior in his entire political career. My thoughts were it was better for Newt to be shocked speechless at this early stage than to be speechless with Obama’s hogwash. I think Newt learned something and, if you were listening, he revealed that he was not going to let it happen again. It is something he took as an important lesson if he were to debate Obama.
If you listened very closely, Newt revealed that he is playing things very differently in the next debates. What Newt wants to do is make it more and more clear that Mitt is not up to the task to take on Obama. And, in the coming months it will be Newt’s job to show the American electorate that Romney is not up to the task to win the election or, for that matter, be our next President. At the same time, Newt will make the case that he is the only candidate that will lead America forward from the abyss that Obama has taken us.
And, Newt revealed that Mitt has an Achilless heel: he lies and when the American electorate catches him on it, which they will, he loses.
Newt revealed these things to me at his presser. He was very tired from a hard schedule, but he was passionate. That passion sounds “whiny” but that is the way Newt’s voice sounds when he is passionate about his convictions.
I have met Newt myself. He is a very humble person when you reach out to him as a friend. If you give him the look of an opponent, he is a warrior, which is just the man we want fighting for our freedom. He is just that man that God has given us . . . and, that woman, Sarah Palin.
Your double post goes double for me.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for a Rush endorsement of any candidate. He has never, and he will never, endorse a candidate in the primary. If he did, it would make it impossible for him to promote the eventual candidate.
Instead, listen to what he says. And, I mean, REALLY listen.
You will hear who he feels would be the best candidate.
I love that graphic almost as much as I love the Twelfth Imam from Chicago graphic!
A picture is worth a thousand words, and you always provide the best words.
I think VDH is a product of his environment...National Romney Online.
Was there a public announcement that Mitt called Newt after he won SC? If so, I missed it.
Thank you for the post, CW. With this crowd, that took guts. ;o)
From what you heard?
I hope you can back that up with a link. I can’t find anything anywhere that says Mitt called Newt after the SC primary to congratulate him.
In fact, I remember watching Mitt’s speech, and was not impressed with it at all. He sounded bitter, and angry to me.
“...its good manners to congratulate your opponent, not after each individual battle.”
I know what you mean; if you listen hard enough, you get the gist of his candidate preferences. But that’s the thing-—I’ve lost patience with the game. Mark Levin is coming out hard and strong against Romney, but he says he will back him if he’s the eventual nominee. I won’t back Romney in that case, but I understand Mark’s reasoning. I don’t think Rush would be any less credible if he was more openly honest now.
“I watched the entire Newt Gingrich press conference!!! It confirmed in my mind that Newt Gingrich is not the one, not even close”
I was gone all day Saturday. I stopped by my parent’s house late and they said “did you hear what Newt Gingrich said? he was just awful”
I didn’t ask her to elaborate.
I didn’t hear any of it. LOL What did he say that was such a turnoff?
“I dont think Rush would be any less credible if he was more openly honest now.”
As I said, LISTEN to him.
Frankly, I think he is as unhappy about the candidates as I am. However, he knows there are one or two in the race who are superior.
I love Mark, and understand his reasoning, too. He’s hit Coulter particularly hard, and I am thankful to him for that.
I heard it on talk radio when folks were trying to ding Newt for not reciprocating - never said I saw it where it could be linked. My point was that the MSM thought they could make it an issue about Newt's "lack of manners" because they're so in the bag for Romney. You cherry-picked my other comment about congratulating your opponent and I'm still not sure what the issue was. As long as the battle is being waged, it's nuts too reach out a friendly hand. Once the war has been won/lost, it's petty to hide and sulk. My original in ful:From what I heard, Mitt did call Newt when Newt won SC. Suposedly that set the standard which makes no sense to me. Once the overall contest is over, its good manners to congratulate your opponent, not after each individual battle.
I've enjoyed your astute posts for some time and usually whole-heartedly agree - having trouble digesting why you even bothered to retort to mine; it's not your usual M.O.
Let's get back to the real task - replacing Obama with a conservative. At this stage, Santorum seems to be catching fire and I hope either he or Newt (or combo) keep bleeding Romney's support from him.
Ohhhh...I see what you meant. I apologize that I misinterpreted your post. My bad.
“My point was that the MSM thought they could make it an issue about Newt’s “lack of manners” because they’re so in the bag for Romney.”
Okay...I cherry picked this post because you make an important point. ;o)
“Let’s get back to the real task - replacing Obama with a conservative. At this stage, Santorum seems to be catching fire and I hope either he or Newt (or combo) keep bleeding Romney’s support from him.”
Cherry picking again because you are dead on right.
“I’ve enjoyed your astute posts for some time and usually whole-heartedly agree - having trouble digesting why you even bothered to retort to mine; it’s not your usual M.O.”
You are very kind, and I do apologize for not “getting” what you meant. I give you a tip o’ the hat. ;o)
Thank you for your kind response. When I make a mistake, I like to be called on it because I want to be accurate. Not all have been as kind as you have been.
I want you to know that I had shut down my computer, and had gone to bed. But, there was something about this exchange that troubled me.
When I asked you if you had a link to back that up, I didn’t mean it as a challenge...as in I didn’t believe you.
I wanted the link! lol
I’m sorry for my poor choice of words.
BTW, though...it is good manners to congratulate your opponent after each battle. It’s good form. However, when the war is won, it’s up to the losing opponents to congratulate the victor.
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