Posted on 02/05/2012 5:20:55 AM PST by Kaslin
Bottom line Progressivism is a kinder gentler more humanitarian, communism. Slo and easy wins the race, we just happened to wake up when the house was on fire
What idiot wrote THAT?
Where is there data, adjusted for race and language, that suggests ANY relationship between per-pupil spending and outcome?
Public ed is welfare. First of all, don’t indulge in it. That you’re paying for it, doesn’t make it right for you to use it. Second, it’s run by anti-American leftists devoted to producing more anti-American leftists without having to sacrifice their most precious sacrament, abortion. They have to replicate somehow, and YOUR baby is that somehow.
Per my tagline, it’s government cheese. And it stinks!
Like The War On Poverty, the more money poured into it the worse it gets.
Not everyone can afford private schools and not everyone can home teach, so they have choice then to send their kids to public schools
Although the puppet strings are longer, charter schools are not really much better than public. Vouchers, or at least 100% tax credits are a very good alternative. The best choice is no governmental intrusion at all.
BTW, I am a teacher. I've noticed that the best and brightest young teachers usually leave in the first few years - the slugs never do.
Speaking as someone who appreciates home schooling, parochial and private schooling, this is still a poorly written hit piece using bad arguments.
1) Using “ambush interviews” is a way to guarantee bad answers. Walk up to a random *adult*, shove a microphone in their face, and ask them to name the justices of the Supreme Court, and most people will sound like idiots. But if you give them a few minutes to think, and they will be able to name several, some being able to name them all.
2) “Average public school” is meaningless. What is the most “average” U.S. state? New York or Utah? In a teacher’s union collective bargaining or right-to-work state?
3) The three big problems of public education are federal intrusion, state incompetence and corruption, and teachers union and “ivory tower leftist” disruption.
The first two of these feed off of each other, with some of the state legislatures using public schools for patronage jobs and unfair allocation of resources based on many things. But federal involvement is ridiculously expensive, taking money and student learning time away for whimsical and indoctrination purposes.
The federal intrusion is often done under threat of taking away funding for the federal school lunch program. But they have placed so many demands that some states are considering making the FSLP voluntary. If a school opts out, it can still provide lunches in its budget, but it will be freed of tons of paperwork and students will have more time for their studies.
Teachers unions are now being challenged by states stripping away the collective bargaining rights of teachers, which makes teachers no longer “blue collar”, but “white collar”, with rewards that are performance based.
The worst “ivory tower leftist” interference was with the creation of Noam Chomsky’s ‘whole language English’ instruction, that systematically wiped out near educational parity of black students with white students, condemning million of black children to life long poverty. As such, Chomsky has done more to “keep the black man down” than did Jefferson Davis.
Despite the enthusiastic support of idealistic young teachers, indoctrinated as they have been in such dreck, their utter failure means that such schemes must be prohibited if students are to succeed.
The bottom line is that yes, there is a place for public schooling, but only if such schools are supported by parents, school boards, and states, and required to perform or perish.
The cream:
Name a country that begins with "U"...
Public educated kid: "Utopia".
Another PEK: "Europe" (probably would spell it Urope)
Yes, I am aware of the existence of the poor.
The poor must rely on welfare for their housing, cars, food, medical care -- and education.
Those who do not rely on welfare for housing, cars, food, medical care, etc., cannot make much of a case for their inability to provide education for their children. Unless we are talking about people who are poor in spirit or poor in intelligence...?
Thanks for reminding me about taxes! :)
The average monthly mortgage payment is around $1500. Add in a typical property tax, say $500 a month. Housing for the home "owner" comes to $2000 a month.
Typical rent, say $1000. Property tax: zero. (In fact, you may even qualify for a rebate!)
Home "owner" housing: $2000
Apartment dweller housing: $1000
I would say to the home "owners" who indulge in education welfare: you CAN afford it if you WANT to give your children a superior education rather than government-cheesy indoctrination. Rent rather than own. It's a matter of priorities, though. Whatever you're getting out of home ownership that you can't get from renting, be aware what it's really costing you: not just an extra thousand a month. What price a quality education, what price dignity?
We keep hearing from some quarters that if we reform public schools yet again, they’ll produce better results. Others say that if we go back in time and run public schools like they used to be run, they’ll produce better results. Those claims are not true. Public schools have never produced good results and they never will. They were not designed to build young minds and give them knowlege and skills. The real history of public education is easily accessed online and proves that.
Reforming public education is like trying to reform a brothel or, in a more extreme example, like trying to reform a concentration camp.
I forgot to ping you to Posting #12.
First, I forgot to ping you to Posting #12.
I do understand why so many homeowners send their children to public schools. They attended them, their parents attended them, and virtually everyone they knew attended them. They can’t imagine that education can be done in any other way.
**ALL** renters pay property taxes! The tax is part of the fee the landlord must charge to cover his expenses and make a profit. ( Is a “duh!” needed here?)
**Everyone** in this nation who spends money pays taxes to support our nation's system of godless socialist-entitlement schools. Why? Answer: Because business must include its godless socialist school property taxes in the cost of every product or service that it sells. Businesses **must** do this if they are to make a profit.
By the way,....How much working experience have you had in the private sector? Are you a teacher in one of our nation's godless socialist-entitlement K-12 schools? ( Just wondering)
Behind every teacher and principal in our nation's godless socialist schools stand armed police to enforce the law.
The “choice” you're promoting is really the “choice” between sending a child into a godless and Marxist run indoctrination center or police and court action and possible prison ( or worse). Wow! Some “choice”! /s
As for home and private schooling, these parents are being given an “offer they can't refuse”. They can send their child to the godless government camps, or they can pay the jizya or ransom needed to keep their kids out of these moral cesspools and to keep themselves out of prison.
Again,...Some “choice”! The Godfather would be soooo proud! /s
Government schooling is a socialist-entitlement. Simply by attending children risk learning to be comfortable with taking money from a neighbor for a tuition-free service. Well?...If government and the voting mob can give them tuition-free school, why not use the government and the voting mob to get **lots** of “free” stuff?
Our nation's system of socialist-entitlement schooling is GODLESS! Simply by attending the child will learn to think and reason godlessly. He must just to cooperate in the classroom. How could it be otherwise?
And...Even at their best our nation's socialist schools offered up a non-neutral, generic, and lukewarm Protestantism. What does Christ do with the lukewarm? He spits them out of His mouth!
It is like trying to reform an abortion center.
Government schools are utterly godless in their worldview. Just to cooperate in the classroom the child must learn to think and reason godlessly. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MORAL MIND WOULD DO THAT TO A CHILD?????
I hold those who work in the nation's godless socialist schools in as much contempt as I do those who work in abortion centers. Geeze! At least the little murdered babies fly directly into the arms of Jesus. Far, far, far too many of the kids subjected to the godless government indoctrination suffer sad consequences all their temporal and possibly eternal lives.
Until mandatory education ends at eighth grade, the problem is hopeless.
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