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Some blacks insist: 'I'm not African-American' (Breaking news?)
Yahoo ^ | 2/04/12 | JESSE WASHINGTON

Posted on 02/05/2012 7:49:11 AM PST by Libloather

Some blacks insist: 'I'm not African-American'
By JESSE WASHINGTON | Associated Press – 21 hrs ago

The labels used to describe Americans of African descent mark the movement of a people from the slave house to the White House. Today, many are resisting this progression by holding on to a name from the past: "black."

For this group — some descended from U.S. slaves, some immigrants with a separate history — "African-American" is not the sign of progress hailed when the term was popularized in the late 1980s. Instead, it's a misleading connection to a distant culture.

The debate has waxed and waned since African-American went mainstream, and gained new significance after the son of a black Kenyan and a white American moved into the White House. President Barack Obama's identity has been contested from all sides, renewing questions that have followed millions of darker Americans:

What are you? Where are you from? And how do you fit into this country?

"I prefer to be called black," said Shawn Smith, an accountant from Houston. "How I really feel is, I'm American."

"I don't like African-American. It denotes something else to me than who I am," said Smith, whose parents are from Mississippi and North Carolina.

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KEYWORDS: african; american; blacks
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1 posted on 02/05/2012 7:49:24 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather
Since the government decided to classify people as hyphenated Americans maybe they should revert to states as in New York-American or Oklahoma-American ... /s

The US is the only country in the world that classifies its citizens.

2 posted on 02/05/2012 7:54:55 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Have Regrets Because At The Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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To: Libloather

Identity crisis! They went fron negro to black to egyptian to african American. HOW ABOUT AMERICAN FIRST AND FORMOST


3 posted on 02/05/2012 7:55:47 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: SkyDancer

India?


4 posted on 02/05/2012 7:55:51 AM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: Libloather
Black is certainly better than the stupid term, "African American," but negro is better than black as it does not carry the negative connotations that the word black has; e.g., black heart, black plague, black death; etc.

This term African American is so stupid. Is a person of West Indian descent such as Colin Powell African American? I'm glad that some blacks are waking up to this.

5 posted on 02/05/2012 7:56:54 AM PST by Stepan12
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To: Libloather

Smith, whose parents are from Mississippi and North Carolina.

Why those places aren’t even in the Union.
Dang Confed-Americans./s

It’s time we considered ourselves just plain American,
and all spoke the same language.


6 posted on 02/05/2012 7:59:11 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Libloather

African < American
is what is really mean


7 posted on 02/05/2012 8:01:26 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways a Guero y Guay Lao << >> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona)
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To: NakedRampage

Don’t think so. In India their citizens are not hyphenated. It’s a cast system. It’s different altogether.


8 posted on 02/05/2012 8:01:26 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Have Regrets Because At The Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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To: Libloather

My favorite African-American is Charlize Theron.


9 posted on 02/05/2012 8:02:13 AM PST by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: Libloather

They need to go back to this term:

http://tfdf.org/blog/2011/09/01/back-when-we-were-negroes/


10 posted on 02/05/2012 8:03:45 AM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: Libloather

Now if we could also get rid of hyphenated marriages!


11 posted on 02/05/2012 8:03:45 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Libloather
I have an “African-American” friend. He was born in South Africa, and emigrated to the US and became a citizen here. He is truly “African-American”. His skin color is white. What does this make him?
12 posted on 02/05/2012 8:04:04 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Libloather

There are so many labels that could be applied to me, and labels that have been applied to the people from whom I descend in the past. I honestly don’t care, so long as it’s not intended as a slur.

Stop worrying about it, accept any categorization not meant to denigrate, and just be. That’s my suggestion.


13 posted on 02/05/2012 8:04:11 AM PST by RegulatorCountry (+)
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To: Libloather

Black American, OK, how about saying white American, yellow American, brown American, and red American, Uhhhhhhh? Why not just, American, born in the USA?


14 posted on 02/05/2012 8:05:21 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO YOU ELECT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT!)
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To: Libloather
Some blacks insist: 'I'm not African-American'

The socialists will be displeased. The brain washing isn't having the desired effect.

15 posted on 02/05/2012 8:09:24 AM PST by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

They can be American African or Negro, their choice. I guess they didn’t care for ‘Colored’ as an option?


16 posted on 02/05/2012 8:12:14 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: ronnie raygun

WHITES can be AFRICAN American too.

Anyway calling blacks African American seems to not know or understand that the continent has millions of white and suntanned people.


17 posted on 02/05/2012 8:15:50 AM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: ronnie raygun

HOW ABOUT AMERICAN FIRST AND FORMOST”

Roger that. If someone identifies them self as Mexican American I presume they are Mexican first therefore to me they are mexican. Same with Africans or any other hyphenated critters. A person identifys their loyalties by rank order so I should respect that


18 posted on 02/05/2012 8:16:07 AM PST by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: Libloather

I’ll go with the Shawn Smith mentioned in the article... Why don’t we just leave it at “American”?

The only people still playing the race card are the ones with a vested interest in maintaining a divided nation. And, they don’t even bother trying to hide it these days.

Charlie Rangel
Sheila Jackson-Lee
Jesse Jackson
Al Sharpton
and on, and on, and on...


19 posted on 02/05/2012 8:18:11 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: Libloather

Oh I get to cite one of my universal laws.

Any minority eventually will reject any label once the label has been adopted by the majority.


20 posted on 02/05/2012 8:18:15 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: manc

Yes one of my former work mates was born in S. Africa and became a US citizen.
He always joked about being an “African American”.


21 posted on 02/05/2012 8:18:59 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: norwaypinesavage

I am so sick and tired of correcting people about this.

I know plenty of people who are WHITE and AFRICAN, the term to describe blacks as African American to me is ignorant and obviously they put PC in front of geography, demographics etc


22 posted on 02/05/2012 8:21:38 AM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Libloather

Is the American descendent of Berbers an African American? How about someone whose grandparents were from Libya or Tunisia. An Arab whose ancestors have lived in east Africa for 300 years? What about someone whose parents were Afrikaners? Is Dave Matthews an African American?


23 posted on 02/05/2012 8:22:11 AM PST by Poison Pill (Obama is the hopium of the masses)
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To: Libloather

Amfrerican....from SNL I believe....


24 posted on 02/05/2012 8:22:45 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Libloather

see gov richard lamm on his the only country to purposely change its ethnic makeup...another first for the pseudo-cons of hyphenated america...


25 posted on 02/05/2012 8:25:06 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: norwaypinesavage

My favorite label was in a news story about some happenings in an African country. The news referenced one of the persons as an African-American African.


26 posted on 02/05/2012 8:31:45 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Libloather

I’m trying to remember the story about a black athlete from Brazil or somewhere who won a medal in the Olympics, and the interviewer kept calling him “African American” despite being corrected immediately, every time, that he was neither African nor American.


27 posted on 02/05/2012 8:32:56 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Libloather
"I prefer to be called black," said Shawn Smith, an accountant from Houston. "How I really feel is, I'm American."

__________________________

It appears many FReepers are criticizing this man for agreeing w/them. Bravo Mr Smith!!!

28 posted on 02/05/2012 8:37:59 AM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: SkyDancer

I personally refuse to use any term popularized by Jesse Jackson.

Last fall, I was hospitalized for an ongoing problem. The male nurse who was charged with admitting me asked some personal questions, one of which was “What ethnicity are you?” “American,” I answered. He persisted: “But what kind of American?” “American-American,” I replied.

I guess he realized he was going nowhere with the interview, so he scribbled something on the form and left the room.


29 posted on 02/05/2012 8:45:17 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Libloather

Truth be told, wouldn’t 0bama be called mulatto?


30 posted on 02/05/2012 8:47:45 AM PST by celtic gal
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To: norwaypinesavage
"What does this make him?"

Same as Theresa Heinz Kerry- African American.

31 posted on 02/05/2012 8:48:36 AM PST by matthew fuller (My replacement for Drudge-http://www.webcommentary.com/links.php)
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To: Libloather
>""African-American" is not the sign of progress hailed when the term was popularized in the late 1980s. "

Now it's what lame-wad Indonesians use to FAKE Birth Certificates to hide their ILLEGAL ALIEN STATUS.

32 posted on 02/05/2012 8:50:34 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one,)
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To: Stepan12

To this end, Asian-American, Native-American,etc should also be done away with.
At times, just to be ornery when asked to check one of these racial blocks, I would check Óther and say “Irish American “....: : )


33 posted on 02/05/2012 8:51:28 AM PST by celtic gal
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To: celtic gal
Truth be told, wouldn’t 0bama be called mulatto?

African-American from the neck up.


34 posted on 02/05/2012 8:59:58 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: SkyDancer
How about calling them any thing they want? Or maybe any translation of the word Black. From Spanish to English to Latin. After all every one does not speak Ebonics.
35 posted on 02/05/2012 9:01:54 AM PST by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: GenXteacher; amom; Alamo-Girl; DLfromthedesert; Baynative; combat_boots; Texas Eagle; ...

Interesting article and web site. Thanks for the link.

This also is an interesting article from that web site:
http://tfdf.org/blog/2012/02/01/black-american-politics-in-the-21st-century-is-it-time-for-a-new-plan/

The author shows how Frederick Douglass had called the Republican Party the “ship” for the black voter and that all else was “the storm.” Then, when allegiance switched to the Democrat Party in the 30s, the black voter maintained that template; the party they invested in with their loyalty is “the ship.”

The author suggests that the black voters need to rethink their approach. Both parties have betrayed their interests historically. While he does not seem to be a conservative, he does suggest an interesting stratagem: many of the green party organizations which have ballot approval already, are actually shells which the black voter could walk into and take over for their own interests.

I wonder if conservatives could quietly look down the road to do the same thing....just wondering....not necessarily advocating it, just wondering.


36 posted on 02/05/2012 9:05:37 AM PST by TEXOKIE (... and HAPPY NEW YEAR to all FREEPERS EVERYWHERE!)
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To: SkyDancer

I think in Canada they use a term “Visible Minority”


37 posted on 02/05/2012 9:16:41 AM PST by TMD (Behind enemy lines.....)
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To: Libloather

We are all Amricans.


38 posted on 02/05/2012 9:18:37 AM PST by Mike Darancette (11/06/2012: Starts "Occupy the White House")
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To: Scanian

I always check the Native-American box since I was born here. I’m not an immigrant.


39 posted on 02/05/2012 9:20:14 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Have Regrets Because At The Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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To: Libloather

It’s sad that they aren’t allowed to be “Americans” only but the white boys down at the DNC need to pigeonhole them so the DemocRATS can claim ownership of that group of people. To me, they are just Americans. Unfortunately, we’ve seen stories here about the college kiddies referring to Africans IN AFRICA as being “African-Americans” because of their dark skin. People aren’t very bright these days. Especially among “college students”. It appears that their I.Q. drops with each year of “education” they are subjected to.


40 posted on 02/05/2012 9:26:28 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (So just where does the "buck stop" at the Department of "Justice"?)
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To: jiggyboy
I’m trying to remember the story about a black athlete from Brazil or somewhere who won a medal in the Olympics, and the interviewer kept calling him “African American” despite being corrected immediately, every time, that he was neither African nor American.

My favourite example of something similar was an introduction of somebody or other as a 'South African African American'.

41 posted on 02/05/2012 9:42:50 AM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: jiggyboy
I’m trying to remember the story about a black athlete from Brazil or somewhere who won a medal in the Olympics, and the interviewer kept calling him “African American” despite being corrected immediately, every time, that he was neither African nor American.

My favourite example of something similar was an introduction of somebody or other as a 'South African African American'.

42 posted on 02/05/2012 9:43:06 AM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: Libloather
Look my people were British till 1776 then we shot at them....your never really an American till you start shooting at people from the old country....ask Eisenhower
43 posted on 02/05/2012 9:46:06 AM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Libloather

Hopeless slaves to the Democratic Party (for close to 200 years) arguing how to properly name their chains.


44 posted on 02/05/2012 9:48:31 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: Libloather
The whole thing is pretty silly. I've noticed that Native Americans are going in the opposite direction. They really, really hate any connotation alluding to their somewhat darker pigmentation (i.e., “red”). Remember all the sports teams nicknames controversies back in the ‘90s? That gave rise to the famous “Fighting Whities” bust of a protest, and a lot of college teams dropping centuries-old nicknames to fit into the politically correct Zeitgeist. You need a scorecard to keep the various movements straight. Such are the politics of identity.
45 posted on 02/05/2012 9:54:38 AM PST by chimera
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To: Libloather

Perhaps they need to be recognized for what they seek: reparationists.


46 posted on 02/05/2012 9:57:22 AM PST by mcshot (Voter fraud will be the doom of the Republic as desired by the Lib Dems.)
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To: CSM; norwaypinesavage; Libloather

I remember when the Olympic sprinter Ben Johnson, who was born in Jamaica and competed for Canada, was haltingly referred to by television reporters as “African-American.”

Idiots.


47 posted on 02/05/2012 10:05:56 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Scanian

my wife does the same

when will those people who call themselves African American unuderstand they are about as African as me.

Next time you ever hear the term then ask what country.
I asked two black guys which country they were from and they said America, I asked why are you saying to me then African American to which they replied, because we come from Africa
I asked what country.
No answer they had no clue what countries are in Africa or who in their family came here hundreds of years ago .

Also I point out that whites too come from Africa as well as blacks of which those who say it too look all confused and even had some say no whites from from Africa


48 posted on 02/05/2012 10:15:28 AM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Libloather

I have a buddy who is half white and half black who calls himself “halfrican”. He is shameless in admitting that his racial status got him his fire depratment job.


49 posted on 02/05/2012 10:26:44 AM PST by strider44
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To: jiggyboy
I recall something similar from an Olympic event. The winner was a Black man from France. Like your example the interviewer (NBC iirc) kept saying "African American".

The FRENCHMAN was not pleased.

50 posted on 02/05/2012 10:28:08 AM PST by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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