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SUPER BOWL XLVI DISCUSSION THREAD - Patriots v Giants
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Posted on 02/05/2012 8:15:19 AM PST by doug from upland

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To: Boston Blackie

I am from SoCal and do not support them.


51 posted on 02/05/2012 9:05:50 AM PST by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
LOL Bloody....

Huge G-Men fan here....and I am thinking just the opposite.....The Pat's are led by two of the best ever in their coach and QB....and given your offensive tendency...a short passing game and 3-step drops...that should mitigate the Giants strength...their pass rush....G-Men play much better from the lead...so if the Pat's take the lead...things could get ugly for my Big Blue crew...

However, even with that being said...there is something with guys that start dating super models.....it seems to take them down a notch or two....I call it the Super Model Syndrom.....I'm hoping Mr. Brady catches the virus....!

Anyway....only time will tell....never thought me Giants would be playing for the championship this year...so...who knows...that's why you play the games....!

Enjoy the food and frenzy....although I hope in the end I ain't singing the Bad Blues....!
52 posted on 02/05/2012 9:06:31 AM PST by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: doug from upland; GOPsterinMA; GSP.FAN; SunkenCiv; fieldmarshaldj

“Black Sunday” just concluded on EPIX. I had never seen that movie before, it was pretty good.


53 posted on 02/05/2012 9:08:32 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: doug from upland
It is a shame that they can’t both lose

+1

tho i'd settle for 0-0 with about 10 turnovers per side

54 posted on 02/05/2012 9:10:18 AM PST by tomkat (para bellum)
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To: nascarnation

Cowboys by 3 ......... Shows you how much I have been paying attention this year. LOL


55 posted on 02/05/2012 9:10:27 AM PST by Know et al (The greatest argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with a voter: Churchill)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
I think you may be mistaken

Barny Fwank just might enjoy the equine act

56 posted on 02/05/2012 9:13:51 AM PST by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: doug from upland

I hope they BOTH lose ;)


57 posted on 02/05/2012 9:17:01 AM PST by Bikkuri
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To: shadeaud
I will have to read about it.

I will be walking the dog for halftime entertainment. My plan B if the dog gets walked before the game is to sit on the front porch and watch the chrome rust on the Dodge Caliper(Special OBAMA Edition) my neighbor just bought.

58 posted on 02/05/2012 9:18:02 AM PST by wmileo
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To: doug from upland

I call this, the northeastern SB!


59 posted on 02/05/2012 9:19:21 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: doug from upland

Look for the score to be Patriots 24, Giants 16.


60 posted on 02/05/2012 9:23:23 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: doug from upland

Take confort, the SB is taking place in the city of the Indy 500.


61 posted on 02/05/2012 9:24:48 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: DownInFlames

Patriots by 8.

Remember that, despite what has been said, the Patriots have a “bee in their helmets” and have not forgotten, at least those players who are still with the Patriots, what happened 4 years ago.

Plus the AFC won last week in the Pro Bowl. Look for an AFC resurgence in the coming season starting tonight.


62 posted on 02/05/2012 9:28:58 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: doug from upland

Giants 23, Patriots 17


63 posted on 02/05/2012 9:29:03 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (Obama 2011: "Let them eat peas")
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To: doug from upland
I've been a Giants fan through the good years and the bad years.

This is a good year.

64 posted on 02/05/2012 9:29:18 AM PST by McGruff (Still 46 States To Go)
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To: doug from upland
not a big football fan....

“Our national pastime is shooting, gentlemen, and always will be.” Cole Younger (Cliff Robertson) “The Great Northfield Minnisota Raid”

that being said...

....Go Giants!

65 posted on 02/05/2012 9:30:23 AM PST by Vaquero
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To: Know et al

It’s been an awesome week here in Indy.
The weather has been great, and the planning and execution of the pre-game day activities has gone well.
And the best news is that Obama isn’t coming, LOL.


66 posted on 02/05/2012 9:31:52 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: doug from upland

I hate the Pats and BeliCHEAT, but I hate Mr. Silver-Spoon-In-His-Mouth Manning and the Giants even more. I hope Manning gets the whipping of his spoiled life.


67 posted on 02/05/2012 9:33:26 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: doug from upland
Patriots in a squeaker.....

They have a twelfth man not on the field. There can be no other explanation for the missed field goal and Sterling Moore's foiling the game winning touchdown against The Ravens.

Regardless of who wins, it's gonna be great to see all those fans of the "Baltimore Colts" writhe in agony as they are in a no-win situation. Either their bitter enemies, The Pats, win on their home turf, or Elisha Manning proves he's better than their loser commercial boy Peyton.

68 posted on 02/05/2012 9:35:27 AM PST by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness (Eenie meanie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak....)
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To: doug from upland

I’m still a half-hearted Giants fan, and I think the NFL ought to really sit down and think hard about what it’s all about after this season, especially if the Giants win tonight. There’s no way in hell a team with 7 losses should be playing in a Super Bowl. What’s even more ridiculous is that the Giants finished the regular season with a negative (394-400) point differential. This is a championship contender?! LOL.


69 posted on 02/05/2012 9:37:10 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: doug from upland

I’m still a half-hearted Giants fan, and I think the NFL ought to really sit down and think hard about what it’s all about after this season, especially if the Giants win tonight. There’s no way in hell a team with 7 losses should be playing in a Super Bowl. What’s even more ridiculous is that the Giants finished the regular season with a negative (394-400) point differential. This is a championship contender?! LOL.


70 posted on 02/05/2012 9:37:32 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness

Peyton is just as spoiled as his brother. Can’t stomach either of them.


71 posted on 02/05/2012 9:38:07 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: duffee

i’m a Jet fan but root for the Giants if my team is out and Eli is my neighbor.

He’s a good guy so easy to back. We’ll be having a good time today.
Giants 34 Pats 20


72 posted on 02/05/2012 9:39:44 AM PST by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama)
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To: chessplayer

I’m not a Colts fan, though I live in Indianapolis.

All I’ve ever seen is Manning being extremely generous in this town.

He’s very low key, and has endowed a children’s hospital.
Always at the ready to help out with charity events.


73 posted on 02/05/2012 9:40:37 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: chessplayer
Peyton is just as spoiled as his brother. Can’t stomach either of them.

I hear dat...

We'll all be bombarded with Elisha Manning commercials, if he wins.

Brady's commercial made us all go 'ugh', we don't need any more of those from him.

74 posted on 02/05/2012 9:40:57 AM PST by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness (Eenie meanie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak....)
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To: Alberta's Child

Giants aren’t that good. They just got hot at the right time.


75 posted on 02/05/2012 9:40:57 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: nascarnation

For a union shop, the NFL has a lot of turnover.

Only 23 players of 106 are carryover from the NE/NY matchup four years ago.


76 posted on 02/05/2012 9:42:39 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: doug from upland
Here’s my take.

NE wins.

Here’s my analysis:

Based on regular season YDG statistics.

NE 2 Pass 29 Pass NYG
NE 20 Rush 19 Rush NYG
NYG 5 Pass 31 Pass NE
NYG 32 Rush 17 Rush NE
Total YDG superiority NE by 15

Game Plan: NE - Pass MUCH more - use run to keep defense honest. NYG - Pass MUCH more
Game character: Top passing against lowest tier pass defenses. Should be high score because not much to stop top passing. Both QB's are dangerous. The difference may be the rush game: Rush game: NYG has NFL's worst rush. NE superior by 15. Rush game: NE is #20 rush offense. NYG is #19 rush defense. Even. Key to game: May be NE's ability to run against NYG.

77 posted on 02/05/2012 9:43:31 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: nascarnation

I am very happy to hear the great news. I’m glad the weather is good also.


78 posted on 02/05/2012 9:43:47 AM PST by Know et al (The greatest argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with a voter: Churchill)
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To: chessplayer

“I hope Manning gets the whipping of his spoiled life.”

Eli Manning is not spoiled and his father noted he never complained about anything growing up.

Archie Manning raised two very normal but excellent boys who made it to the NFL.

Stop hating.


79 posted on 02/05/2012 9:44:38 AM PST by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama)
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To: nascarnation

750 tix left on Stubhub.

Looks like transaction prices are trending back up, I think the cheapest seats have pretty much been sold.


80 posted on 02/05/2012 9:44:54 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: chessplayer

Neither team is very good. In fact, what’s really astonishing in the NFL is that we haven’t seen a complete team in many years. Every championship team has had tons of holes and flaws. Maybe the Broncos of the late 1990s were the last of the really good all-around teams.


81 posted on 02/05/2012 9:46:25 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: nascarnation

“Only 23 players of 106 are carryover from the NE/NY matchup four years ago.”

Those are normal figures. The average running back only lasts four years on average in the NFL.

Jobs come at a premium and are demanding and difficult to keep.


82 posted on 02/05/2012 9:46:31 AM PST by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama)
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To: chessplayer
... I hate Mr. Silver-Spoon-In-His-Mouth Manning and the Giants even more.

Look, I am a life-long Giant fan and so I may be suspected of being biased but I don't understand your "Mr. Silver-Spoon-In-His-Mouth" comment.

Every thing that Eli Manning has attained has been earned on the field. From being a #1 Draft Pick in the Draft to his Super Bowl MVP, all has been earned on the field.

83 posted on 02/05/2012 9:47:29 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: chessplayer

Look for Eli and the G-Men to get a “do you remember me moment” from Tom tonight!


84 posted on 02/05/2012 9:47:58 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Alberta's Child

It’s all about peaking at the right time. The Giants had a rough patch in late November, but they got it back under control in the last few weeks and have played great football in the playoffs. They’re proof that things are working great in the NFL today. It’s an any given Sunday league where you there’s no way to know at the beginning of the season what’s going to happen in the end. Even with a dynasty like the Pats this season saw their first playoff win since the last time they faced the Giants in the SB, nobody was really thinking they were going to get it together. Having an unpredictable season makes it a more exciting season, with higher levels of fan engagement, and that means more spending. Which is, in the end, what it’s all about, entertainment for money.


85 posted on 02/05/2012 9:50:48 AM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: romanesq

One of my buddies has a kid who’s been in the NFL for 6 years. I think he’s been with 6 teams, on and off the practice squad, etc. For the marginal player it’s a challenging life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Pociask


86 posted on 02/05/2012 9:53:03 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: nascarnation

That’s the direct result of a system with a salary cap and non-guaranteed contracts. The wholesale player turnover among NFL teams is destroying the game, in my opinion.


87 posted on 02/05/2012 9:54:38 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: conservaDave

Jacaobs and Bradshaw open up field for Manning and Cruz. Giants 31-24.


88 posted on 02/05/2012 9:55:24 AM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: romanesq
Stop hating. I swear some Freepers would be better off with the Occupy crowd, wouldn't they?
89 posted on 02/05/2012 9:56:37 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: romanesq
Stop hating..

I swear some Freepers would be better off with the Occupy crowd, wouldn't they?

90 posted on 02/05/2012 9:56:58 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: discostu

If that’s what it’s all about, then why not let the Washington Redskins into the playoffs — or anyone else, for that mater? The Redskins were 2-0 against the Giants this year. Maybe they could have been peaking right now, too!


91 posted on 02/05/2012 9:58:12 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child

I don’t know about destroying the game.
By my reading, the tv ratings and price of commercials is at an all time high.


92 posted on 02/05/2012 9:59:20 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Stasi...? Spare me. You’re rooting for a team that comes from the liberal cesspool of New York and plays in the liberal cesspool of New Jersey.

In reality, I go to 2-3 Raiders games per year. Raiders fans are more akin to a biker gang than they are to state police....


93 posted on 02/05/2012 9:59:58 AM PST by freebilly (Obama Sings While America Sinks....)
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To: doug from upland

No matter what happens, Brady gets to bang Giselle later and we don’t. He wins.

Pats 24 giants 20.


94 posted on 02/05/2012 10:00:56 AM PST by strider44
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To: doug from upland
Hard to get excited about this one.

Even the commercials I've seen are lame.

But any excuse for a party, and my chicken wings are Super.

95 posted on 02/05/2012 10:02:47 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: freebilly

What NFL city, maybe outside of Green Bay, isn’t a liberal cesspool?


96 posted on 02/05/2012 10:03:25 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: nascarnation
Dude, Madonna is playing at halftime. Most people tomorrow are going to spend more time talking about the TV commercials than the game itself.

The Super Bowl hasn't been about football in years.

As someone with a handle like "nascarnation" you should be sensitive to this sort of thing. That sport was at an all-time high a few years ago when it traded in its traditions and long-time fans for big-city TV revenues, and it's been declining ever since.

97 posted on 02/05/2012 10:04:23 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child

True about NASCAR. When they started playing rap and crap I knew it was gonna slide down.


98 posted on 02/05/2012 10:09:11 AM PST by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore it seems)
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To: Alberta's Child

The Redskins didn’t win their division, and couldn’t sneak into a wild card. That’s why they didn’t get in.

There’s nothing new about this. All sports have the occasional team that “sneaks” into the playoffs with a questionable record that then puts together a run. It happens more often in sports where the playoffs are single elimination because randomness has a heightened impact. Happens periodically in Now-it-happens-in-April-March Madness. It’s the Cinderella story, it’s why there’s the phrase “that’s why they play the game”. Yeah you can make all kinds of arguments about why the Giants shouldn’t be in Indy right now, but the fact is they needed to win 5 games to get here, and they did, and the teams that didn’t win the necessary games are not.

This isn’t the BCS, nobody is trying to declare today’s eventual winner the best, a champion will be declared. You become a champion by winning the right games, you can go ahead and lose all the rest (which I think this year’s Giants might have) but if you win the right ones you get the to the title, then you win that to become champion. The Giants won all the right games. Period.


99 posted on 02/05/2012 10:09:37 AM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: doug from upland
Okay FReepers, over the years I have seen or read about some of the most delicious food/snacks and recipes. I am in for Giants over the Pats by 3, BUT what I really want to know is what is on the menu today??

We have hot wings, 7 layer dip and chips, tzatziki sauce and veggies, prosciutto and basil wrapped mozzarella, and chilled shrimp and cocktail sauce over here. What have you got??

100 posted on 02/05/2012 10:11:47 AM PST by Anti-Hillary (No Jesus, No Peace! Know Jesus, Know Peace!)
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