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U.S. DEPORTATIONS PUT A BURDEN ON TIJUANA
The San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | Feb. 5, 2012 | Sandra Dibble

Posted on 02/05/2012 1:09:05 PM PST by moonshinner_09

TIJUANA — Less than four months after he was released from a Nevada prison and deported to Mexico, Fermín Pérez Juárez is in trouble again. He is now behind bars in Tijuana, accused along with four others in the kidnapping and torture of a man who was hoping to be smuggled into the United States.

It wasn’t just the brutality of the crime, committed last month in the city’s Zona Norte, that commanded attention in Tijuana newspaper headlines and on TV broadcasts. It was the people allegedly behind the crime: Pérez and the other suspects are deportees with U.S. criminal records, Mexican authorities said.

Illegal immigration is a contentious topic in the United States, but it can be a touchy subject in Mexico, too. This is especially true in northern border cities such as Tijuana, where hundreds of Mexicans are returned each day.The city’s officials say the presence of large numbers of deportees poses public safety problems and further strains social-service programs. Business owners near the border complain that they drive up crime and drive away customers. Deportees say they often are made to feel like convicts even when they are not — ostracized, unable to find work, lacking any family or friends in the area, targeted by police as well as criminals who shake them down and take their money and documents.

(Excerpt) Read more at web.utsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; deportation; illegalaliens; immigration; mexico
Mexico thinks we should keep their illegals here and let them drive up crime here . Sorry Mexico we are not their parents. This is your problem, deal with it.
1 posted on 02/05/2012 1:09:15 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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2 posted on 02/05/2012 1:15:03 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: al baby

Stuning.


3 posted on 02/05/2012 1:15:36 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: moonshinner_09

Listen to the Leftist slime comming from San Diego...
That City is diving down the sewer of Democrats and Marxists.

Wake up San Diego! dont let Democrats ruin your town!!

Take back the Govt. or San Diego will look just like Tijuanna...A Dump.


4 posted on 02/05/2012 1:15:57 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: moonshinner_09

Cry me a rio.


5 posted on 02/05/2012 1:17:04 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: moonshinner_09

Operation Wetback, during the Eisenhower administration, shipped illegals to Veracruz. That way they had a longer walk to get back to the border.

Some of the illegals were put on slow boats, and died on the trip.

Eisenhower had put General Jim Swing in charge of the INS. Swing moved INS managers away from where they had been bribed or nudged by their local congress critter/business groups, and began raiding- the businesses didn’t get advance notification of the raids.

The raids worked. Most illegals self deported. It was so effective that the Democrat party rewrote the law to create anchor babies.


7 posted on 02/05/2012 1:21:04 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: moonshinner_09
"Cry us a river," TJ and SD as well.

Why does the writer for the SD paper believe that all 57 Obama states should suffer its criminals running in U.S. cities?????

As to Mex. you sent these vermin to the U.S. - now you get them back.

Tell someone who gives a damn, I sure don't.

8 posted on 02/05/2012 1:22:38 PM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: zerosix

So it is a burden of the loser country mexico to take back their scum-bucket citizens??????? Shut up!


9 posted on 02/05/2012 1:26:14 PM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: moonshinner_09
I'm an American living here in Baja, about 16 miles south of TJ. I see the deportees all the time. I don't think the article said that Mexico wanted us to keep the deportees, it just said they need notice and cooperation. Like the USA, Mexico is not prepared. I have hired a couple of deportee's in my business. They work hard and realize that they or their parents screwed up and never got papers. It takes a while for them to get the funds together to continue south to their home towns, so in the short run, TJ bares the burden of all the transients. I see the crime increase along the beaches, more break-ins for electronic gear that can be sold quickly. No violence to Americans. Except for cartel and drug related killings in TJ, I don't see a lot of violent crimes. Stay away from TJ after 12:00 and you should be OK. Just like you can't go to down town Detroit after midnight. Last summer I saw that there were 38 drug related deaths in Chicago in one weekend. I guess no one is immune from the impact of drugs.
10 posted on 02/05/2012 1:27:50 PM PST by cromero (Lead, Follow or Get out of the Way)
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To: moonshinner_09

Tough tacos Tito.


11 posted on 02/05/2012 1:27:58 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: moonshinner_09
I'm an American living here in Baja, about 16 miles south of TJ. I see the deportees all the time. I don't think the article said that Mexico wanted us to keep the deportees, it just said they need notice and cooperation. Like the USA, Mexico is not prepared. I have hired a couple of deportee's in my business. They work hard and realize that they or their parents screwed up and never got papers. It takes a while for them to get the funds together to continue south to their home towns, so in the short run, TJ bares the burden of all the transients. I see the crime increase along the beaches, more break-ins for electronic gear that can be sold quickly. No violence to Americans. Except for cartel and drug related killings in TJ, I don't see a lot of violent crimes. Stay away from TJ after 12:00 and you should be OK. Just like you can't go to down town Detroit after midnight. Last summer I saw that there were 38 drug related deaths in Chicago in one weekend. I guess no one is immune from the impact of drugs.
12 posted on 02/05/2012 1:28:01 PM PST by cromero (Lead, Follow or Get out of the Way)
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To: moonshinner_09
I'm an American living here in Baja, about 16 miles south of TJ. I see the deportees all the time. I don't think the article said that Mexico wanted us to keep the deportees, it just said they need notice and cooperation. Like the USA, Mexico is not prepared. I have hired a couple of deportee's in my business. They work hard and realize that they or their parents screwed up and never got papers. It takes a while for them to get the funds together to continue south to their home towns, so in the short run, TJ bares the burden of all the transients. I see the crime increase along the beaches, more break-ins for electronic gear that can be sold quickly. No violence to Americans. Except for cartel and drug related killings in TJ, I don't see a lot of violent crimes. Stay away from TJ after 12:00 and you should be OK. Just like you can't go to down town Detroit after midnight. Last summer I saw that there were 38 drug related deaths in Chicago in one weekend. I guess no one is immune from the impact of drugs.
13 posted on 02/05/2012 1:28:10 PM PST by cromero (Lead, Follow or Get out of the Way)
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To: moonshinner_09

Awwwwwww that is SOOOOOO sad..but I guess it is alright if we are burdened by them??

I suspect that after the election they will return here without penalty The current enforcement is for public consumption only .In fact this article may actually be obama campaign propaganda


14 posted on 02/05/2012 1:29:39 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: moonshinner_09

Boo hoo hoo.....(sniff)


15 posted on 02/05/2012 1:30:54 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: moonshinner_09
that's OK with me... better there than here
16 posted on 02/05/2012 1:45:22 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: moonshinner_09
US DEPORTATIONS MEXICAN CRIMNALS PUT A BURDEN ON MEXICO
17 posted on 02/05/2012 1:46:46 PM PST by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Quick! Call a WAAAAAAAAmbulance!


18 posted on 02/05/2012 1:48:28 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: zerosix

And doesn’t Mexico provide illegal immigrants with maps,supplies and list of instructions on how not to get caught?


19 posted on 02/05/2012 1:49:59 PM PST by Engedi (A)
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To: donmeaker

Operation Wetback—— The good old days when America had pride and some unemployment (though nothing like today) so it evicted a few million illegal alien Mexicans to free up jobs for Americans. Today the Mexicans sense the rot in DC so invade America and do whatever the heck they want. We are a rich suburb where they go earn some money and piss on the natives


20 posted on 02/05/2012 1:51:59 PM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: moonshinner_09

No, no, no, Fermin! Wrong! That’s not what the Zona Norte is for, and you know it. The Zona Norte is for two things, and two things only. Getting drunk, and getting your weasel greased.


21 posted on 02/05/2012 1:53:21 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: moonshinner_09
I wonder if Mexico has a Government, since nobody blames the leaders for Mexicos troubles.
If I were an Alien I would think Mexico is just a place the USA sends poor working people.

Does anybody hold their Government to the fire?

22 posted on 02/05/2012 1:56:19 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: moonshinner_09

Boo-freakin-hoo..


23 posted on 02/05/2012 2:01:24 PM PST by cardinal4 (Bolton/Arpaio 2012 "Kick the UN across the border!")
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To: MaxMax

Apparently they have all other crime in mexico eradicated.

When is the last time you saw a crime report out of mexico they didn’t claim was drug related?

LOL


24 posted on 02/05/2012 2:25:05 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: martin_fierro

This woman reporter is an idiot.


25 posted on 02/05/2012 2:35:01 PM PST by x1stcav (I'm voting for anyone in 2012 but an Ivy Leager.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Easy answer: all illegals will be returned the capital city of their country.
26 posted on 02/05/2012 3:15:49 PM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: moonshinner_09

TOUGH!!! Suck it up Mexico!


27 posted on 02/05/2012 3:33:41 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: musicman

Ft. Smith once had a problem like Tijuana. This is what solved it.

28 posted on 02/05/2012 3:37:24 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: moonshinner_09

“Business owners near the border complain that they drive up crime and drive away customers.”

Gee I feel bad for that fine city. How will the donkey show industry ever survive?/s


29 posted on 02/05/2012 3:41:03 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: moonshinner_09

Mexico thinks we should keep their illegals here and let them drive up crime here
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Obama and his Democrat friends think so too.


30 posted on 02/05/2012 4:04:32 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Vigilanteman

That would get someone’s “attention”.


31 posted on 02/05/2012 4:05:53 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: moonshinner_09

Another reason Mexicans infuriate me. Selfish, arrogant bastards who screw up their own country and have the unmitigated gall to barge into the US as if they have some God-given right and when their own people are sent back because they broke our laws, they bitch and moan. F**k you Mexico. Where is your shame? These are your people, why aren’t you doing anything for them?


32 posted on 02/05/2012 5:41:55 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Agreed. FU Mexico.

More importantly, if La Raza, MeCHA and every other Mexican special interest group is so damn worried about the safety, welfare and future of Mexican immigrants, why do they insist that we keep every Mexican criminal, rapist and murderer on this side of the border?

The answer: Because criminals vote “Democrat”.


33 posted on 02/05/2012 6:57:12 PM PST by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: donmeaker

donmeaker: “Operation Wetback, during the Eisenhower administration, shipped illegals to Veracruz. That way they had a longer walk to get back to the border.”

My very (Vera?) thought. If Tijuana is overcrowded, we’ll ship them to Veracruz.


34 posted on 02/08/2012 3:23:01 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Seek you first the kingdom of God, and all things will be given to you.)
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To: cromero
I am from Detroit and lived in Mexicali BC and Leon GTO. Both Detroit and Mexicali are international border towns. That is where the comparison ends.

I understand your point that bad neighborhoods are just that: bad. But Downtown Detroit is empty at night.

But having criminals dumped in your area who have no connection to the area is not good.

My humble suggestion: scheduled flights of repatriated persons to the capital city of their country where they can be isolated and evaluated.

35 posted on 02/12/2012 3:05:41 PM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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