Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

House explosion kills Josh Powell, husband of vanished Utah woman
NY Daily News ^ | 02/05/12 | Erin Durkin

Posted on 02/05/2012 8:02:31 PM PST by Lady Lucky

The husband of a missing Utah mom blew up his home Sunday —apparently intentionally — killing himself and the couple’s two young sons, authorities said.

Josh Powell’s house in Graham, Wash., exploded and burst into flames moments after a social worker brought the two boys Charlie, 7, and Braden, 5, for a visit with their dad.

Powell was under investigation in the disappearance of his wife, Susan, from their West Valley City, Utah, home in December 2009.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Utah; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: missing; powell
This is the one who said he was out camping with the kids when the wife disappeared. May the Lord comfort their family.
1 posted on 02/05/2012 8:02:46 PM PST by Lady Lucky
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Lady Lucky

Now besides the death of his wife, he has to answer to God for killing his 2 kids. Hell is too good for this filth.

But, that being said, I am sorry for the families of him and the wife. May God have some mercy on them.


2 posted on 02/05/2012 8:05:31 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lady Lucky

What a mess this guys mind must have been.

He couldn’t just kill himself?


3 posted on 02/05/2012 8:09:53 PM PST by Venturer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lady Lucky

I saw this this afternoon and couldn’t believe it, it’s like a movie. Just too too sad for those little kids (and the family, her parents, I cannot imagine what they are going through). I wonder if they will ever find her body. My prayers for the family. At least I believe the boys are now with their Mom.


4 posted on 02/05/2012 8:11:42 PM PST by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lady Lucky

It would have been much easier for him to have used a gun.

Blowing up the house is what one would do if one were faking ones own death and the boys too, so that the law would not be looking for them. Just saying it might be a good idea for the law to fine tooth comb this situation.


5 posted on 02/05/2012 8:15:43 PM PST by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lady Lucky

Didn’t his father apparently pursue his wife and have porn on his computer?


6 posted on 02/05/2012 8:17:49 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lady Lucky

Supervised visit, but the social worker let the kids go ahead into the house and was barred from entering, went and called the BOSS to report smelling gas...

Why would this idiot let the kids out of his control, and why would the first call be to the boss, rather than 911???

Prayers for the children, and his wife, and I hope the man finds the justice he deserves.


7 posted on 02/05/2012 8:29:31 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
“Didn’t his father apparently pursue his wife and have porn on his computer?”

That would be tragic, but a parent like that explains how people can turn out like Powell. I'm not justifying, just pointing out that the residue of sick parents can hurt multiple generations.

8 posted on 02/05/2012 8:31:25 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Lady Lucky

If there was any suspicion at all that the father was involved in the mother’s disappearance, he should never have been allowed to see the children unsupervised. This is sickening.


9 posted on 02/05/2012 8:43:14 PM PST by giotto
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Didn’t his father apparently pursue his wife and have porn on his computer?

Yes.

The father was creepy like him..apparently his reaction to this horrible event has been emotionless.


10 posted on 02/05/2012 8:45:15 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Reputation is what others know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Lady Lucky

Susan Powell’s parents must be in such a terrible place right now with the death of their Grandsons. I can’t imagine the pain that they must be feeling.


11 posted on 02/05/2012 8:49:56 PM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: giotto
he should never have been allowed to see the children unsupervised.

That's why the child welfare worker was there with the kids....she was supposed to supervise

Just last week Powell was denied custody back because the judge ordered him to have a psych eval done by court order. That must have sent him over the edge.

He has been nasty to her parents since Susan Powell has been missing. I could see this sick bastard killing the kids to hurt them more.

12 posted on 02/05/2012 8:55:37 PM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Lady Lucky

What a disgusting POS. Roast in hell.


13 posted on 02/05/2012 10:25:36 PM PST by youngidiot (Hear Hear!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kingu; All

It may be that the social worker was a woman. But whatever the situation the man should have seen the children, if at all, in a supervised setting where he had not control and it could be verified he had no weapon. The social worker may have been in shock, and the boss could probably do a better job of mobilizing help.


14 posted on 02/05/2012 10:34:58 PM PST by gleeaikin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Lady Lucky

I live in the area, and one of my church friends has a kid that goes to the school the older of the two boys attended.

I checked out a local TV station’s website to see the comments others were making. Can you believe there were some people actually DEFENDING Powell? They seem to think HE was the victim of the DSHS in not being allowed to see his kids.
How deluded can people be??

And then...doing what he did in taking the lives of his kids? I am a daddy, and by God in Heaven I would NEVER do something so cowardly and insanely cruel to my children, no matter how bad I thought things were.

We will now never know where or how Susan Powell died, because (though it was never proved) her killer has offed himself.


15 posted on 02/05/2012 10:38:57 PM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lady Lucky

This story has bothered me all day to the core.


16 posted on 02/05/2012 10:40:50 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big. Vote Newt!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lady Lucky

When he lost temporary custody of the kids I was hopeful that the grandparents or a child psychologist would be able to question them and find out what they remember about their mother’s disappearance. I’m sure Josh Powell feared this and that is why he killed himself. Those poor grandparents must be devastated and angry that he was allowed to spend time with those kids.


17 posted on 02/05/2012 11:28:49 PM PST by dupree
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: giotto

It was supervised. Read the article.


18 posted on 02/06/2012 3:24:18 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: autumnraine
Apparently not..

"A social worker brought the boys to Powell’s house Sunday for a supervised visit, and Powell let them in but blocked the social worker from entering."

She should have not let those kids enter the house and at the very least called the police immediately.


19 posted on 02/06/2012 3:38:12 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Bigh4u2

I’m no fan of social workers and it’s easy to second-guess this woman. But, I suspect, even in light of the psych eval order and the disappearance of his wife, that she was completely caught off guard by the sort of agressive, malicious crazy with which she was immediately confronted at the door of the house. He blocked her entry, took the boys inside, locked the door and the house exploded.


20 posted on 02/06/2012 3:46:05 AM PST by RegulatorCountry (+)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Venturer

“He couldn’t just kill himself?”

Probably for the same reason women kill a new-born instead of leaving them outside a police station or firehouse; no closure.

This is just an ugly effect of the unraveling of families.


21 posted on 02/06/2012 4:01:57 AM PST by kearnyirish2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: RegulatorCountry

That scenario is a good probability, but instead of calling the police, she called her supervisor to report a gas smell.

Since she wasn’t injured by the explosion, it just seems she had either left, or at least had moved far enough away to avoid it.

It seems there was still some time between the door being locked and the explosion.

If you read the article, the guy even e-mailed his attorney before setting off the explosion.

As with most of these articles, the ‘facts’ are a little sketchy but I don’t think it happened as fast as it is being portrayed.


22 posted on 02/06/2012 4:19:27 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: RegulatorCountry

...”I’m no fan of social workers and it’s easy to second-guess this woman. But, I suspect, even in light of the psych eval order and the disappearance of his wife, that she was completely caught off guard by the sort of agressive, malicious crazy with which she was immediately confronted at the door of the house. He blocked her entry, took the boys inside, locked the door and the house exploded”...

Yes..Americans always look for someplace to put blame where it does not belong..I am not a fan of our armies of social workers either, but most of them do their work according to the guidelines they are given and their work is frequently not safe for them personally. In this case, she might have been the 4th victim, had she gone against him..Who could have foreseen this bizarre outcome? When someone is willing to commit suicide, there is little anyone can do.


23 posted on 02/06/2012 4:29:00 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: dupree

The media is reporting that the 7 year-old (who was 5 when she ‘disappeared’) had claimed that when their father took them camping at midnight in freezing temps. the mother was in the trunk of the car.

That is believable. Children probably saw and heard a lot of disturbing activity on that night and with professional counseling might have remembered more details.


24 posted on 02/06/2012 4:54:21 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to celebrate life and embrace the future.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: submarinerswife

-—Just last week Powell was denied custody back because the judge ordered him to have a psych eval done by court order. That must have sent him over the edge.-—

This is why the government must regulate marriage. The State has the natural duty to arbitrate child custody disputes.


25 posted on 02/06/2012 5:21:18 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: submarinerswife

“...she was supposed to supervise...”

I always thought “supervised” visitation took place in some office or something. I never realized visits like that would happen in a person’s home.

I’d think if they thought the father was a danger to his kids (which sadly he most definitely was) they would not have let them go to his house.


26 posted on 02/06/2012 5:48:21 AM PST by jocon307
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: jocon307

What is also sad is the woman’s parents will never know where their daughter was buried.


27 posted on 02/06/2012 7:31:03 AM PST by trailhkr1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: kingu

The answers to all of your questions are inherent in the term “social worker” and the programming involved in being one.

You or I — THINKING people — would have done differently, but that norm doesn’t apply to individuals operating under the influence of a system that attempts to apply a programmatic “if - then - else” analysis to utterly illogical situations. To call that “psychopathy” is too kind.


28 posted on 02/06/2012 8:02:36 AM PST by HKMk23 (You're always giving someone a piece of your mind, and you wonder that you've no peace of mind?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Lady Lucky

Those poor babies. :-( This is just beyond evil.

Does anyone know what Josh did for a living? I know Susan worked for Wells Fargo financial services, but couldn’t find any information on him.


29 posted on 02/06/2012 8:49:33 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lady Lucky

Tell your daughters to be careful whom they marry.


30 posted on 02/06/2012 9:12:41 AM PST by Lady Lucky (Public education -- government cheese for the brain.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Shadowstrike

I feel not one ounce of pity for pervert grandpa who sits in jail.
He created this beast.


31 posted on 02/06/2012 9:26:17 AM PST by Scotswife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: dupree

In the article I read about this earlier this morning they said that the kids had JUST started to verbalize things about their Dad and their Mom. According to the article the children had indicated their Mom was camping WITH them. One child apparently had said “we went camping and mom was in the trunk”, and “mom and dad got out of the car and then mom wasn’t there anymore” - or something to that effect. My question was why in the HE** was this man even allowed SUPERVISED visits at his home (HIS domain) ESPECIALLY given that the kids had apparently been on the verge of telling the story? I know the law is different regarding people who have been charged with a crime vs. people under suspicion, but the suspected crime was so incredibly serious that I think the higher level precautions in dealing with visits and the like should have been taken (they should have been forced to meet AT the Social Services building, IMO).

I’m going to go find that article and find out who supposedly heard the kids say these things - I’m guessing it was Susan’s parents and that they couldn’t prove they said it because it hadn’t been said to a therapist or something... If it was ANYONE else in the “system” that heard what these children said extreme caution should have been taken in regards to the safety of the children.

I CAN imagine how horrible it would be to be kept from your kids if you were innocent, but in cases that are extreme like this there should be a way to prevent the probable witnesses from being anywhere near the likely suspect - repeated contact will keep them from being able to talk about it out of just fear. [I have personal experience with being on several “sides” of some cases involving social services, unfortunately - although I have never personally been faced with a threat regarding my custody of my children so I admit I don’t know things from an accused’s POV.]

So many abuses by different agencies in dealing with BOTH sides of these issues it’s hard to know what to push for in preventing these kinds of cases in the future.

As for the grandparents of these young children - I can’t possibly imagine their pain and suffering, anger, you name it... I’m sure they’re feeling it ALL in waves and will for a long time. They will be in my prayers - as will the Social Workers who no matter what we all think about their job MOST of them are GOOD people who care and are mired in bureaucracy and deal with PSYCHO people all the time which makes their interactions with GOOD people sometimes look very flawed from the “outside”.

What a disturbing and incredibly horrible tragic event... May the boys who have most likely been reunited with their mother rest in peace - at least they are all in Heaven with God now and suffer no more... As for where their father is, well, I’m glad God is the judge because I could never muster mercy for this man I don’t believe...


32 posted on 02/06/2012 11:15:01 AM PST by LibertyRocks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: HKMk23

I’m honestly surprised the first reaction was to phone the boss... Many of the “bad” social workers try to escalate the situation by bringing IN the cops it seems - not avoid escalation by seeking advice from their “boss” back in the office. If the programming you spoke of actually WAS working in these workers they would have called 911 immediately, IMHO.

I’m no fan of “Social Services”, but unfortunately there ARE some cases in which they are needed. The bureaucracy, craziness, and incompetence are duly noted, but not ALL people in the field are completely avowed Marxists/Socialists/Communists. SOME (the good ones) are actually people who CARE about children and do good by the ones who truly need the system.

Those on the borderline where extreme intervention is NOT necessarily needed aren’t helped by the “No Tolerance” laws in this area. However, when cases like this develop I can understand how it is hard to know where to draw the line between the rights of an accused or suspected individual and the unalienable rights of a child to NOT live in a dangerous or abusive situation.

The unintended consequences of such a system are unfortunate, but at the state and local level these ARE matters of criminality and I think the majority of unintended consequences are the result of overworked, understaffed workers and harried investigations and court cases. My experience with the courtroom part of this system was in Chicago - a more screwed up place I think you’d be hard-pressed to find. Most of the kids in the Cook County system are screwed whether left with an abuser or abused by those in the system itself - however, at least in the foster system some have a CHANCE of not being abused again if they truly are in a bad situation in their family.


33 posted on 02/06/2012 11:25:28 AM PST by LibertyRocks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Scotswife

I absolutely agree with you.


34 posted on 02/06/2012 11:38:27 AM PST by LibertyRocks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: LibertyRocks; Utah Binger; reaganaut

Occam’s wood shredder:

Useless narcissist waste of oxygen killed his wife, killed his sons, killed himself.

Sadly, he performed his absolute evil in the wrong order - ass backwards.

Doubtful he’ll get his planet.

Mommy rode in the trunk. The flames of hell are insufficient, IMO.


35 posted on 02/06/2012 6:01:08 PM PST by glock rocks (I didn't leave the Republican party, it left me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Elsie

Heck, forgot to ping, above ^


36 posted on 02/06/2012 6:03:29 PM PST by glock rocks (I didn't leave the Republican party, it left me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: glock rocks

No kidding. As usual you are right on the money!

F***ing B***turd


37 posted on 02/06/2012 6:07:59 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Bigh4u2
...She should have not let those kids enter the house ...

Awkward to say the leaset.

The WORKER enters first and then the kids let in?

Maybe a change in protocal coming up.

38 posted on 02/07/2012 4:59:26 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: kearnyirish2
This is just an ugly effect of the unraveling of families.

Sin is a reproach to any Nation.

39 posted on 02/07/2012 5:00:19 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Utah Binger

3 more names for the dead dunking ceremony...


40 posted on 02/07/2012 5:02:43 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson