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'This is a death sentence': Pensioner with aneurysm that could kill her any minute told NHS
Daily Mail ^ | 2/6/12 | Lauren Paxman

Posted on 02/06/2012 5:49:08 AM PST by Nachum

When great-grandmother Barbara Judge was told that she needed an operation on her aortic aneurysm and her case had been referred to a special funding panel, she assumed it was a formality. But 10 days ago, the 72-year-old received a letter which said her local NHS trust would not pay for the treatment. Without the life-saving operation, Barbara fears she could die any time. A rupture in the aneurysm--a blood balloon on the aorta--could kill her in minutes. Surgeons in London are confident they can save the grandmother-of-five, but the NHS believe they cannot afford to pay

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aneurysm; nhs
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Full Title: 'This is a death sentence': Pensioner with aneurysm that could kill her any minute told NHS won't fund £15,000 surgery
1 posted on 02/06/2012 5:49:20 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Welcome to government run health care.


2 posted on 02/06/2012 5:51:36 AM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: Nachum

This is Exactly Obama’s plan!

He must be confronted and defeated!


3 posted on 02/06/2012 5:55:05 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: Nachum
1) I don't want government involved in health care.

2) I believe the free market would provide better/cheaper access to health care, if allowed to work.

3) In a sustainable system, some people will not get all of the health care that they might want. The money might not be available. The needed skills might be in short supply and available on to some patients, not all patients.

4) I accept the fact that I, the people I love, and people I have never met, may end up with "a death sentence" because medical attention which might be desired, is not actually made available on demand.

5) People who demand that all of the "tragic stories" have happy outcomes, are actually campaigning for an unsustainable system of socialized medicine, though they may not realize it.

4 posted on 02/06/2012 6:01:46 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I am pro-Jesus, anti-abortion, pro-limited government, anti-GOP.)
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To: Nachum

That’s only $25,000.

Scandalous - and the Brits think they have life-saving medical care for which they paid during their healthy working years?

Time to ban some elective procedures and save money for medically necessary care.

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5 posted on 02/06/2012 6:03:41 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to celebrate life and embrace the future.)
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To: Nachum
Pensioner with aneurysm that could kill her any minute told NHS won't fund £15,000 surgery

So let her pay to have it done privately - if not in the the UK then elsewhere. What she doesn't have the money you say? Then too bad - she should have saved her money earleir. Her fellow citizens don't owe her anything. Health care isn't a right.

6 posted on 02/06/2012 6:24:34 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

She should take responsibility for her self. So...get a second mortgage, have your relatives kick in, spend your savings, sell you stuff, stand on as street corner with a sign. The alternative is to take your chances. No one owes you anything. Society owes you nothing.


7 posted on 02/06/2012 6:32:02 AM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Excellent points. No system is going to provide everyone with all the medical care they want, when they want it. That’s just the way life is. And we’re all going to die, of something, some time.

Hard choices have to be made - but they should be made by those who have to live (or die) with the outcome, not by bureaucrats who don’t give a freep, or even worse, by death-eater ideologues who get a thrill out of having the power to kill others with impunity.


8 posted on 02/06/2012 6:37:01 AM PST by Tax-chick (View new baby pictures on the Tax-chick page!)
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To: Nachum

This is pure EVIL beyond words.


9 posted on 02/06/2012 6:37:49 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita
This is pure EVIL beyond words.

What is pure evil? Not forcing her fellow citizens to pay for her health care? Or forcing people's fellow citizens to pay for other people's health care?

10 posted on 02/06/2012 6:40:42 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

Are those the ONLY solutions you can come up with .... or would you opt for simply letting her die?


11 posted on 02/06/2012 6:46:05 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: from occupied ga
What is pure evil? Not forcing her fellow citizens to pay for her health care?

This is the problem. The government takes all your money and crowds out competitive private insurance. This woman has no options other than depending on the government. If this were a country with private insurance and she did not purchase it, I'd agree with you if she demanded government money for the operation. Its like we all say, in creating a government system, they destroy the private system.

12 posted on 02/06/2012 6:46:09 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: SumProVita
those the ONLY solutions you can come up with .... or would you opt for simply letting her die?

Well let me think about this for a minute ... It appears that there are three possibilities.

  1. Her fellow citizens foot the bill for her health care, and her life is extended by some unknown amount and dies eventually
  2. She pays for her own health care and her life is extended by some unknown amount and dies eventually (I'm counting having her family pay in this one)
  3. She does nothing and takes her chances and dies eventually.
Yep that's all I can come up with.
13 posted on 02/06/2012 6:59:31 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: SumProVita

I answered your question, even though I asked first and you didn’t answer me. SO, answer now answer my question: what did you think was “pure evil?”


14 posted on 02/06/2012 7:04:25 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

What would you do if this was YOUR grandmother?


15 posted on 02/06/2012 7:05:36 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Nachum

So what’s the point? Socialist healthcare isn’t socialist enough? She’s got 5 grandkids, they should pitch in, take her somewhere that will do the operation, and pay for it themselves.


16 posted on 02/06/2012 7:06:41 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: SumProVita

More to the point — what would YOU do if it were MY grandmother?


17 posted on 02/06/2012 7:11:48 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I am pro-Jesus, anti-abortion, pro-limited government, anti-GOP.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
This woman has no options other than depending on the government.

Not true. You've postulated a false dichotomy. There is nothing that says health care must only be paid either by insurance or the government. What's wrong with simply paying it herself? This is the cost of a small car. First she should have that much in savings, and if she doesn't then I can't work up much sympathy for her. If I had the choice of either having to come up with the money or dying, I'd figure out some way to get the $$$s together.

Then there is "medical tourism." She could go to some place like India where the health care is probobly better than in the UK and the prices cheaper.

18 posted on 02/06/2012 7:12:47 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: SumProVita

Answer my question and THEN I’ll answer yours.


19 posted on 02/06/2012 7:13:50 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I would help your family search for other options and would help them to pay....and I would encourage everyone to work for a different system of health care insurance.


20 posted on 02/06/2012 7:20:26 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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