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Obama Cuts Hazard Pay for Soldiers Serving in Harmís Way
Gateway Pundit ^ | 2/6/12 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 02/06/2012 6:08:45 AM PST by Nachum

They will now only get the $7.50 daily proration for the individual days they are actually serving in harm’s way instead of for the whole month. (DOD)

Barack Obama cut pay for military men and women serving in harm’s way starting this month. The Army Times reported:

Starting this month, some troops will begin receiving less Imminent Danger Pay when a new policy takes effect that will prorate the standard $225 monthly IDP stipend.

Under the new policy, troops will be paid only for the actual days they spend in the danger pay location, defense officials said Thursday.

Under the previous policy, troops who spent any portion of the month in a danger pay location received danger pay for the entire month.

The proration amounts to $7.50 per day. So, for example, if a service member spends only 7 days of the month in Afghanistan, he or she will have only $52.50 in Imminent Danger Pay added to their paycheck.

Doug Ross reminds us:

This follows efforts by the president to make veterans pay for their own health insurance — even those injured in combat — and his calls last month for raises for millions of federal paper-pushers.

(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanwar; combatpay; hazard; hazardpay; obama; pay; soldiers
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1 posted on 02/06/2012 6:08:51 AM PST by Nachum
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2 posted on 02/06/2012 6:12:28 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

I can’t believe this isn’t going to cause an uproar in Congress. And the GOP nominess ought to be jumping on it too.


3 posted on 02/06/2012 6:13:01 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert
The change was mandated by Congress as a part of the 2012 budget, and the Pentagon announced the implementation of the new rules on Thursday.

Looks like Congress was behind this.

4 posted on 02/06/2012 6:14:37 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Nachum

this is not a pay cut for serving “in harm’s way”, it is a refinement of what constitutes being “in harm’s way”

I guess someone who takes 30 days of leave in Hawaii or Florida, or who rotates to a statsuion in conus or noncombat zone, will not be considered as being “in harm’s way”, and won’t get combat pay for those days

I see nothing wrong with this. But if the troops are underpaid just give them a pay raise


5 posted on 02/06/2012 6:20:27 AM PST by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common- Voltaire)
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To: Nachum
this is not a pay cut for serving “in harm's way”, it is a refinement of what constitutes being “in harm's way”

I guess someone who takes 30 days of leave in Hawaii or Florida, or who rotates to a station in conus or noncombat zone, will not be considered as being “in harm's way”, and won't get combat pay for those days

I see nothing wrong with this. But if the troops are underpaid just give them a pay raise

6 posted on 02/06/2012 6:20:50 AM PST by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common- Voltaire)
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To: Nachum

It is my personal opinion this is another of Obama’s moves to shrink the military to dangerously low levels for the purpose of returning to the Draft. The Draft has been on the list of to-do’s for the Democrats since it was rescinded.

He wants to say the volunteer army isn’t working, therefore he hasn’t any choice but to return to the draft.


7 posted on 02/06/2012 6:21:27 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: nuconvert

It is an interesting subject and one I’ve taken advantage of a number of times.

For a grunt deploying overseas to a combat zone for 4, 6 or 12 months the extra pay was nice.

When we were scheduling our air flow the Air Force was more than happy to get us there by the last day of the month. Which with crew rest and two days work got them 2 months HDP and tax free.

But this is targeting the “visitors” who like to come check up on you for a few days. Days that just happen to span two months - the 31st to the 1st.


8 posted on 02/06/2012 6:22:09 AM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: nuconvert

Bachmann plan would cut veterans benefits
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2011/01/military-michele-bachmann-veterans-budget-cuts-012811w/


9 posted on 02/06/2012 6:23:21 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Nachum

Obama has REPEATEDLY said one thing ... and done another.


10 posted on 02/06/2012 6:23:24 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Nachum

We need to cut Congressional pay to the same levels and maybe even drop them in Afghanistan. Then we could bring our soldiers home and make them our Congress.


11 posted on 02/06/2012 6:24:11 AM PST by I Hate Obama ("Sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther Party." -Forest Gump)
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To: Nachum

As an Infantryman in the United States Army, I see this as a good and bad thing.

It is good that those who are actually put in harms way during deployments are rewarded over those who are quite safe on their FOBs. Fobbits, as we call them, do not deserve the same pay of those actually risk their lives on a daily basis.

It is bad if they limit it to only combat arms MOS’ despite a soldier’s actual duty when overseas. Many soldier’s who are not combat arms go outside the wire. Also, some FOBs do take incoming fire. This policy may leave too much up to the discretion of someone who is too far out of harms way to make the judgement of who is deserving.

While many in the military will disagree with this new policy. You will not find too many Infantryman in that boat.


12 posted on 02/06/2012 6:24:11 AM PST by And2TheRepublic (People like freedom of speech, but only when it's sweet to their ears.)
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To: silverleaf

I see nothing wrong with either.

Too many military personnel abused the old policy.

If you only spend one day in a combat zone, you do not deserve a full month’s worth.


13 posted on 02/06/2012 6:28:00 AM PST by And2TheRepublic (People like freedom of speech, but only when it's sweet to their ears.)
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To: Nachum

I don’t think Obama would be doing this if he wasn’t feeling confident about winning in November.


14 posted on 02/06/2012 6:30:01 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: rockinqsranch
The minutiae I encountered in the past couple of years with SS and unemployment indicates to me the American people have been put under a financial microscope and are being dealt with in (many times, IMO) an unduly harsh way.

I mistakingly reversed two weeks when applying for unemployment (for simplicity's sake .. wk 1 = $100 and wk 2 = $200)

What should have been wk 1 = 100 and wk 2 = 200 ... I inputted wk 1 = 200 and wk 2 = 100.

Not only did that cause an internal electronic hemmorhage, it denied my check for two weeks and gifted me with an interesting afternoon of telephonic exchanges that might have gotten my ass kicked if I had not been apologetic in the end.

The jokes abound about standing in the DMV line, but UE has a pretty good start on incapable imbeds.

15 posted on 02/06/2012 6:32:26 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Nachum
His hate of everything representing American power is palpable...

I detest that man...

Mike

16 posted on 02/06/2012 6:38:36 AM PST by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: rockinqsranch

Or he may be getting around to changing what the meaning of “volunteer” means.

This snake oil salesman may want to change it to “those who work for free.”


17 posted on 02/06/2012 6:41:11 AM PST by Molon Labbie (End the War On Drugs, Restore the Constitution.)
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To: Nachum
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18 posted on 02/06/2012 6:44:15 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: Nachum

I hope all obama worshippers who have relatives serving in the military appreciate this. Maybe they can get obama to pay them from his stash.


19 posted on 02/06/2012 6:46:19 AM PST by Terry Mross (.)
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To: Nachum

This will free up some more money to help buy votes.


20 posted on 02/06/2012 6:46:45 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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