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Patriots Have Greatest Near-Miss Dynasty in NFL History: A Fanís Analysis
Yahoo Sports ^ | 6 Feb 2012 | By Robert Dougherty

Posted on 02/06/2012 7:12:54 AM PST by Bill Buckner

The 2012 Super Bowl ultimately went against the New England Patriots by 21-17, much like in 2008. Now that the New York Giants have beaten the Patriots in the final minutes for the second Super Bowl in a row, it has made everyone rethink the legacies of both teams.

New England should have the greatest dynasty in NFL history and even in sports history by now.

While Brady and Belichick still have their three titles, ... they should have six or even seven instead - and that has now started to overshadow the rings they do have. If New England had six or more championships in the last 11 years, it would be the greatest franchise in NFL history and one of the greats in all of sports.

Last year, the Patriots lost a golden chance for potential ring No. 6 when the New York Jets upset them in the divisional playoffs. It is uncertain if New England would have then beaten the Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC title game, followed by the red-hot Green Bay Packers in the Super Bowl. ...

The Patriots have now lost more potential Super Bowl opportunities than they have won actual Super Bowls, which instantly puts them behind the Steelers, San Francisco 49ers and Dallas Cowboys dynasties of old. Even if Brady and Belichick finally get their fourth championship someday, it won't mean as much because of those losses and because they still should have had so many more rings.

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Lay off the Team - stuff happens ...
1 posted on 02/06/2012 7:12:57 AM PST by Bill Buckner
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To: Bill Buckner

I’ve had enough. I’m done with the Patriots and I live in MA and work only about 5 miles from the stadium.

DONE.


2 posted on 02/06/2012 7:15:07 AM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: Bill Buckner

5 or 6 titles maybe. The Patriots were no match for the 1985 Chicago Bears and were not near as good as the 1997 Packers.


3 posted on 02/06/2012 7:18:30 AM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Bill Buckner

I think that Buffalo and Minnesota could both claim that ‘near miss’ Title................


4 posted on 02/06/2012 7:18:37 AM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: Peter from Rutland

I say that EVERY YEAR about the Cowboys...................you’ll be back!......................


5 posted on 02/06/2012 7:19:50 AM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: Bill Buckner
Still the standard for excellence:


6 posted on 02/06/2012 7:23:13 AM PST by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: JRios1968

Don’t forget about the Four-Time NFL Champion, Detroit Lions.


7 posted on 02/06/2012 7:24:38 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Bill Buckner

Giants- the first seven loss team to win a Super bowl. They stepped up when they had to. The Pats usually sure handed receivers dropped a couple of catchable balls; that, plus a couple of key defensive plays by the Giants, was the difference.

Good game, well worth watching.


8 posted on 02/06/2012 7:24:58 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Red Badger

I will never forget the frustration that was Fran Tarkenton at QB.


9 posted on 02/06/2012 7:25:47 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Bill Buckner
The Patriots have now lost more potential Super Bowl opportunities than they have won actual Super Bowls...

Can't match the old Buffalo Bills; four Super Bowls, no wins.

10 posted on 02/06/2012 7:27:28 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Peter from Rutland; Impy; DarthVader
Me too.

That was a poorly played game yesterday. I knew when Ugg Boy gave the Gnats 2 points right off the bat, they were going to lose. That safety WAS the game. Ugg Boy would only have had to get them into field goal range to eek out a 1 point win.

Montana-Bradshaw-Starr-Unitas: THE BEST. All others are pretenders.

11 posted on 02/06/2012 7:28:05 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

I think he’s hawking juice machines now...................


12 posted on 02/06/2012 7:29:57 AM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: Bill Buckner

People need to remember the other choice for the Pats is “completely suck”


13 posted on 02/06/2012 7:31:17 AM PST by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: Bill Buckner

Strut your stuff, Redskins fans...you beat the 2012 Super Bowl champs TWICE in one season!


14 posted on 02/06/2012 7:35:48 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I usually don’t believe in such garbage but when they cut that wide receiver on Saturday, 24 hours before the game, I had a feeling they were going to be ‘cursed’. That’s just a damn cold thing to do to someone. And Ochocinco didn’t do a darn thing either.

I’ve simply had enough. I can’t even get tickets to a game anyway so why bother. I have better things to do on Sundays anyway.


15 posted on 02/06/2012 7:39:37 AM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: JimRed
Can't match the old Buffalo Bills; four Super Bowls, no wins.

The Vikes were also 0-4. What makes the Bills amazing is that they went to four IN A ROW.
16 posted on 02/06/2012 7:41:16 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Paul Tsongas of 2012.)
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To: Bill Buckner

This was a “MISS”!!!

Not a “near miss”!!!


17 posted on 02/06/2012 7:42:35 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: Bill Buckner

—While Brady and Belichick still have their three titles, ... they should have six or even seven instead - and that has now started to overshadow the rings they do have. —

This is a really stupid standard. They’ve appeared in 5 of the last 11 (?), impressive enough, and won 3.

Yeah, 85 overmatched, and 97 overmatched, but not as much. And no Brady.


18 posted on 02/06/2012 7:46:26 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Peter from Rutland
I’ve had enough. I’m done with the Patriots and I live in MA and work only about 5 miles from the stadium.

Peter. Get a grip man. It's one freaking game they lost and it went down to the last second. That game could have gone either way in the last minutes. It wasn't like they got blown out.

So they are #2 in the NFL instead of #1. They are still a hell of a good team.

19 posted on 02/06/2012 7:49:30 AM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: JRios1968
Still the standard for excellence:

Maybe for second or third place..


Pittsburgh has won more Super Bowl titles (six), won more AFC Championship Games (eight) and played in (fifteen) and hosted more (eleven) conference championship games than any other AFC or NFC team.

20 posted on 02/06/2012 7:49:34 AM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: GOPsterinMA

The game was over when Mario Manningham made the big catch at the 50. Also the G-men basically shut the Pats down after they scored the 2nd half TD. It was 3 scoring opportunities to one from that point on. The G-men are now 4-1 in Super Bowls with their only blemish being a 34-7 shellacking at the hands on my Ravens.


21 posted on 02/06/2012 7:50:55 AM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Ditto

It was only by luck that they were there to begin with. They couldn’t close the deal in 2004 and they couldn’t do it now. Brady is Manning’s b***h and it’s incredibly pathetic.

Not wasting anymore time on them, sorry.


22 posted on 02/06/2012 7:54:28 AM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: Bill Buckner; sickoflibs
stuff happens alright...

three rings by less than a combined 10 points, and two losses as well...doesnt smell like an overbearing dynasty...runnin up scores vs mediocre teams in the regular season doesnt count...

good run fer sure, but Im tired of everybody tryin to make bardy and the homeless guy look like gods...

23 posted on 02/06/2012 7:56:35 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Peter from Rutland

Just like in College....Peyton couldn’t beat the Gators, but Eli went 2-0 against them.....Peyton couldn’t beat the Patriots, but Eli is 2-0 against them in Super Bowls.


24 posted on 02/06/2012 7:57:17 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Bill Buckner

Sorry, but making 4 straight Super Bowls, a feat that has never been done by any other team, would qualify the Buffalo Bills as the greatest Near-Miss Dynasty.


25 posted on 02/06/2012 7:58:52 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Peter from Rutland; DarthVader; Impy
I started to lose interest in them after the last SB they lost, this one ended it completely.

That was cold releasing Underwood. Why? Are they so stacked at WR? Chad Johnson had one catch, big whoop.

I won't pay their ticket prices, period.

DV: Yep, that Manningham catch was game, set and match. Although, like I said, if you do the math, that asinine safety Ugg Boy gave up was the difference between having to kick a FG or scoring a TD. The Ravens are now my AFC team of choice.

p.s. Interesting that the Punts haven't won it all since Spygate. Hmmm...

26 posted on 02/06/2012 8:07:05 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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To: Peter from Rutland
I guess you don't fit into the 'sore loser' category because you aren't saying the Giants got lucky. You are saying your team sucks I guess.

Do you have any idea how many other cities would love to have a team as good as the Pats? You make it sound as if you are somehow entitled to win.

I'm a Steeler fan and I know what it feels like to both win and to lose a Super Bowl. Winning is more fun, but no one is entitled to it. When you lose one, you tip your hat to the winner and get ready for next year. And when you win one, you celebrate for a little while and then get ready for the next year.

Every time the Steelers have played in the SB, the only thing I knew for sure was that win or lose, I still had to get up and go to work the next day.

27 posted on 02/06/2012 8:08:12 AM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Michael Barnes

I am sure the Super Bowl XLV Champion Pittsburgh Steelers agree...oh, wait.

The San Francisco Forty Niners have gone to the Big Game 5 times...and walked out with 5 Lombardi trophies. There’s something to be said for WINNING the game every time you go into it. Otherwise we could talk about the dynasties of the Denver Broncos, Buffalo Bills and Minnesota Vikings.


28 posted on 02/06/2012 8:09:37 AM PST by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: JRios1968

“The San Francisco Forty Niners have gone to the Big Game 5 times...and walked out with 5 Lombardi trophies. “

Not only that, their QB’s have never thrown an interception in SB play, that’s REALLY impressive.


29 posted on 02/06/2012 8:12:06 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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To: Bill Buckner

And the Yankees should have won in ‘04. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.


30 posted on 02/06/2012 8:22:26 AM PST by Wright Wing
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To: GOPsterinMA

Another key to this game was the play of the Giants defensive line especially those two stud DEs Justin Tuck and Jason Pierre Paul as they continually harassed Brady in spite of the good protection he got for the most part.


31 posted on 02/06/2012 8:23:42 AM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Wright Wing

At least the Patriots didn’t blow the World Series, while being one strike away from winning.....TWICE!!!!


32 posted on 02/06/2012 8:24:45 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: DarthVader

Yep. The Giants won.

And the Punts haven’t won anything since Spygate.


33 posted on 02/06/2012 8:26:50 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Ever notice that you never see Jim Kelly on any NFL studio shows as analyst or otherwise?


34 posted on 02/06/2012 8:28:34 AM PST by Wright Wing
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To: Bill Buckner
Quit the bitchin ... it was a great game. I'm a long time Denver Bronco season ticket holder, back in SB XXI the Giants beat the Broncos 39-20. The score doesn't come close to telling how bad the Broncos were in that game ... the game was over in the first quarter. Patriots lost last night (someone wins, someone loses) but made it a great game to watch.
35 posted on 02/06/2012 8:29:17 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: Gilbo_3
three rings by less than a combined 10 points
And one of those rings was won after the Patriots cheated by videotaping the Rams walk-through the day before the 2002 SB.
36 posted on 02/06/2012 8:31:20 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Peter from Rutland
‎"BREAKING NEWS" ALERT! ...GISELE AND TOMMY "GIRLIE GIRL" BRADY ARE GETTING SEPARATED IMMEDIATELY AFTER LAST NIGHT'S PATRIOTS SUPER BOWL LOSS...IT SEEMS THAT GISELE HAS ALREADY FILED HER SEPARATION PAPERS CLAIMING THAT SHE IS SICK AND TIRED OF ALWAYS BEING THE "2ND PRETTIEST GIRL" IN THE HOUSEHOLD...
37 posted on 02/06/2012 8:35:55 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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To: Bill Buckner
Puh lease. Dallas was one pass interference call on Deion away from going to a Super Bowl they would have won handily and had four straight; and one Jackie Smith wide open TD drop from a possible victory vs. the Steelers.

Or you can go to the Duane Thomas "fumble" in the endzone where Cowboy center Dave Manders was on top of it, but somehow it got ruled in favor of Baltimore.

38 posted on 02/06/2012 8:38:51 AM PST by LS
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To: BluH2o

The Broncos led 10-9 at the half. The third quarter did them in.


39 posted on 02/06/2012 8:51:46 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: JRios1968

God bless Joe Montana and Bill Walsh!


40 posted on 02/06/2012 9:06:32 AM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: GOPsterinMA
Chad Johnson

<snicker>

What a tool he is, and apparently not too good, despite what he might think (or have thought).

41 posted on 02/06/2012 9:07:39 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Sicon

A complete tool ; a $6 million waste of space.


42 posted on 02/06/2012 9:08:53 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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To: upcountryhorseman

The best, period!


43 posted on 02/06/2012 9:10:17 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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To: Bill Buckner

Let it go. The good news is Aberdeen scored 4 touchdowns on the Animal Planet’s “Puppy Bowl” last night. Go Aberdeen!


44 posted on 02/06/2012 9:28:06 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Bill Buckner

I used to be a Los Angeles Rams fan, which was kind of like being a Boston Red Sox fan before 2004. For several years, visions of Super Bowls danced in the heads of Rams fans as the team dominated its division, only to blow it in the playoffs.

Today, the only football teams that I follow are the Occidental College Tigers and the USC Trojans.


45 posted on 02/06/2012 9:47:32 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Bill Buckner

Where’s Nelson Munts when we need Him! HA HA!


46 posted on 02/06/2012 9:57:01 AM PST by crazydad
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
"And no Brady."

LOL! Patriot fans will be using that excuse for 100 years after Mr. Personality is long gone.

The future Patriots' battle cry..

Well, we would have won if we still had Brady!!!

47 posted on 02/06/2012 10:06:38 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: JRios1968
I beg to differ.

In professional sports, the Yankees are the standard for excellence.

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48 posted on 02/06/2012 10:16:41 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Bill Buckner

Nobody but NO BO DY comes close to my Buffalo Bills!

Four CONSECUTIVE Super Bowl appearances, four consecutive LOSSES.

No comparison.


49 posted on 02/06/2012 10:55:41 AM PST by Don W (You can forget what you do for a living when your knees are in the breeze.)
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To: BluH2o

The high altitude must be affecting you bro. Good thing the Gmen didn’t know the game was over in the first quarter since they ended up trailing 10-9 at the half.


50 posted on 02/06/2012 11:08:41 AM PST by newbie 10-21-00
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