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Bill: No sweets with food stamps (FL)
WKMG ^ | 2/6/12 | Staff

Posted on 02/07/2012 5:00:23 AM PST by AT7Saluki

A Florida lawmaker is pushing a bill that would ban the use of food stamps to purchase snacks and sweets, such as cookies and cakes.

Republican State Sen. Ronda Storms, of Valrico, says her goal is to stop a small percentage of recipients who misuse food stamps.

Her bill would also require food stamp recipients to take state-run classes on healthy eating and how making your own baked goods is cheaper than store-made sweets.

The bill is moving through state committees in Tallahassee.

Critics say the government shouldn't be telling people what to eat.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: florida; stamps; sweets; welfare
Oh how they howl when their own ideas (food police) are turned against them.
1 posted on 02/07/2012 5:00:25 AM PST by AT7Saluki
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To: AT7Saluki

When will they outlaw buying cooking wine with foodstamps? That’s what the bums do, b/c they can’t buy real alcohol.


2 posted on 02/07/2012 5:03:43 AM PST by synbad600
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To: AT7Saluki

They should be able to buy flour, salt, dried beans, powdered milk, rice, and fresh vegetables. Nothing else. Ideally, we would just terminate the program entirely, but if the program *must* continue, this would be a good set of parameters, IMHO.


3 posted on 02/07/2012 5:04:22 AM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino
They should be able to buy flour, salt, dried beans, powdered milk, rice, and fresh vegetables. Nothing else. Ideally, we would just terminate the program entirely, but if the program *must* continue, this would be a good set of parameters, IMHO.

ABSOLUTELY (IMHO 2)

4 posted on 02/07/2012 5:06:59 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (Still a contributing Republican? Why?)
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To: AT7Saluki

Once you take government money they own you, they can control every aspect of your life.


5 posted on 02/07/2012 5:09:57 AM PST by heylady (“Sometimes I wish I could be a Democrat and then I remember I have a soul.”( Deb))
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To: AT7Saluki

Teaching the poor how to save money by baking cookies?

That’s the part I can’t get behind.


6 posted on 02/07/2012 5:10:24 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: AT7Saluki
Critics say the government shouldn't be telling people what to eat.

Its funny. Liberals claim when the government provides money to schools, they can dictate curricula. Or when they provide money to hospitals, they can mandate contraceptives and abortions. But the government can't tell food stamp recipients not to buy junk food, or welfare recipients can't be drug tested or forced to send their kids to school.

7 posted on 02/07/2012 5:13:57 AM PST by fhayek
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To: AT7Saluki

“a small percentage of recipients who misuse food stamps”

Small percentage? It’s the majority, based on what I see every time I go to the market.

Just yesterday I was in line at the gas station waiting to pay and the teen in front of me used his Food Stamp card to buy a Yoo-Hoo and a Slim Jim, then paid cash for a carton of marlboro menthols.

Don’t even get me started on the welfare queens at Wal-Mart...it’s disgusting.


8 posted on 02/07/2012 5:16:20 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow (Can't afford a ticket back from Suffragette City)
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To: AT7Saluki

To all of those on food stamps: This is what will happen one of these days.

The government will start dictating the types of food you can get with food stamps.

Give Obama another term, Moochelle will make this part of her “Let’s Move” campaign.


9 posted on 02/07/2012 5:17:05 AM PST by dforest
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To: synbad600

Since when can food stamp recipients buy alcohol? That’s new to me..


10 posted on 02/07/2012 5:17:19 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: AT7Saluki

her goal is to stop a small percentage of recipients who misuse food stamps.

Oh yea right. It’s a small percentage. Here in PA they all buy sweets. I see them on line in front of me at all the stores. Trash young people that could get their asses to work.


11 posted on 02/07/2012 5:20:03 AM PST by angcat (NEW YORK YANKEES!)
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To: AT7Saluki

“...and how making your own baked goods is cheaper than store-made sweets”

What’s cheaper than free? These people don’t care.


12 posted on 02/07/2012 5:21:27 AM PST by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: angcat

Makes me wonder why the poor aren’t skinny. They are all fat ass.


13 posted on 02/07/2012 5:22:40 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: dinodino
They should be able to buy flour, salt, dried beans, powdered milk, rice, and fresh vegetables.

Which they would just turn around and sell in exchange for what they want to buy.

Cancel the food stamps, and let the current recipients have dinner at their school cafeteria. That's the trend, anyway, with kids getting breakfast as well as lunch, and talk about dinner.

14 posted on 02/07/2012 5:24:31 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (I'd agree with you, but then we would both be wrong.)
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To: AT7Saluki

Social engineering mandates from totalitarian wannabees. Subjugation by socialists. DEPOPULATE socialists from the body politic. DISMANTLE their domestic programs. DEFUND socialist collectives, foreign and domestic.

live - free - individual - republic


15 posted on 02/07/2012 5:25:42 AM PST by PGalt
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To: AT7Saluki

If Food Stamps were cut down to just the staples the monetary amounts of the program could be cut down.....costs of enhanced foods, like junk food, ready-to-eat and the like - have huge extra costs built in. A 10lb. bag of rice is a lot cheaper than 10lbs. worth of packages of Rice-A-Roni.

Then-once you get off of Food Stamps - you can eat better - how about that!

It’s supposed to be a safety net not a wide net that covers the whole supermarket.

WIC has restrictions (there’s WIC signs all over the supermarkets)- why can’t Food Stamps?


16 posted on 02/07/2012 5:27:26 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: dinodino

They shouldn’t be able to “buy” anything. They should have to walk down to a central distribution center and get big bags of rice, beans, etc. and carry them home.


17 posted on 02/07/2012 5:28:18 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: PapaBear3625
They should be able to buy flour, salt, dried beans, powdered milk, rice, and fresh vegetables.

Which they would just turn around and sell in exchange for what they want to buy.

That would make Capitalists of them. ;)

18 posted on 02/07/2012 5:29:18 AM PST by Does so ("What elephant?")
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To: goseminoles

Alcohol with food stamps? You can buy vanilla extract. That’s 30 to 40% alcohol.


19 posted on 02/07/2012 5:30:24 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

I think you are stretching it...


20 posted on 02/07/2012 5:32:10 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Why can't the government collaborate with WalMart and have a section where folks on the dole can go to purchase just the staples of food needed and not all the crap I see in their carts at Publix?

Also, add a staff of the Occupy crowd to provide them with free medical care, baby sitting, counseling and the like.

Folks may think our State is the Stupid State, but since Rick Scott became Governor we have drug testing for any State Government Program give-aways, a stringent waiting time for benefits to new residents and now some regulation on how to properly use food stamps...I mean government issued credit cards.

21 posted on 02/07/2012 5:33:38 AM PST by not2worry
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To: angcat

I’ve seen “EBT accepted here” on the window of a take and bake pizza place.

No reason for “convenience foods” to be bought with someone else’s money.


22 posted on 02/07/2012 5:34:55 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
They shouldn’t be able to “buy” anything. They should have to walk down to a central distribution center and get big bags of rice, beans, etc. and carry them home.

They should work to eat. They should get off their obese behinds, go out and clean up the side of the highways, clear brush in parks or sweep school parking lots. In return they could get food. After they're done they'll be too tired to go out partying and procreating.

23 posted on 02/07/2012 5:35:47 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: PGalt

Unaccountable positions of power over others attracts busybody liberals like moths to a porch lamp.

It’s not enough to replace “their” moths with “our” moths.
We must bust out the porch lamp.


24 posted on 02/07/2012 5:37:05 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: goseminoles

Read the label. I have a Costco and a Star Market vanilla extract. One is 35% and the other is 40%.

You obviously are not an alcoholic. A real one would know that. Grocery store employees frequently find empty bottles of vanilla stashed around the store.


25 posted on 02/07/2012 5:42:09 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: AT7Saluki

“...goal is to stop a small percentage of recipients who misuse food stamps.”

SMALL??? Really??


26 posted on 02/07/2012 5:58:50 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: ladyjane

Actually I am... that’s why im curious..


27 posted on 02/07/2012 5:59:08 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: ladyjane

Not a reach out... im ill and home today because of alcoholism. Im not drinking vanilla however.. I am miserable though... not having a good day.


28 posted on 02/07/2012 6:03:11 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: synbad600

Critics say the government shouldn’t be telling people what to eat.

When you are in prison the Government tells you what to eat, when you enlist in the military and go through basic training the Government tells you what to eat. If you are a school kid going to a Government school the Government tells you what to eat. If you are getting your food from the Government then...


29 posted on 02/07/2012 6:23:29 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign iup for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: ladyjane

They should get off their obese behinds, go out and clean up the side of the highways, clear brush in parks or sweep school parking lots. In return they could get food. After they’re done they’ll be too tired to go out partying and procreating....Unions,(and politicians) would see that as taking their jobs away. I know, we tried something like this in our county and got all kinds of crap for it. You know the Adopt A Highway Program? Unions have been fighting this for years.


30 posted on 02/07/2012 6:28:47 AM PST by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: ladyjane

For what it’s worth, in my life at least, everyone that I’ve ever known who was on food stamps, had a job, but still lived below the poverty level. The mother of a good friend growing up comes to mind. She worked as a cocktail waitress until 2am then went to her job at Denny’s where she stayed until 10am. I believe the family was on food stamps as long as I knew them. The problem was a lack of education, and the opportunity it provides, not a poor work ethic.


31 posted on 02/07/2012 6:46:40 AM PST by Melas (u)
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To: AT7Saluki

1. This is not a ‘small percentage’. My stepson works in a grocery store; and, he can spot an EBT cart a ile away - soad pop and twinkies.

2. This is the natural progression of socialism. People become dependent on gubmint...and then gubmint controls them. As much as I hate food stamp abuse, I would not vote for this bill. The same logic has been used to push ‘sin taxes’ on soad pop in some states, and it is immoral.


32 posted on 02/07/2012 7:04:13 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: AT7Saluki
Where is Marie Antoinette, let them eat arugula Obama on this issue? If she is serious about making kids eat healthy foods where better to start than limiting the food stamp program to healthy foods only?
33 posted on 02/07/2012 7:10:16 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: dinodino

Newsflash: many people using foodstamps don’t have a stove or oven or utensils to cook or bake with. Some of them are also at very low paying jobs and are not sitting at home doing nothing when they should be baking. Some are elderly or disabled.


34 posted on 02/07/2012 7:52:36 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: AT7Saluki

When food stamps were first introduced, sweets, snacks and imported foods were not allowed. Sometime in the late seventies or thereabouts the restrictions were relaxed.


35 posted on 02/07/2012 7:54:11 AM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: kabumpo

A great many people on any FR thread such as this are too stupid and simple-minded to understand what you just wrote.


36 posted on 02/07/2012 8:02:01 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: AT7Saluki

“...her goal is to stop a small percentage of recipients who misuse food stamps.”

They can just trade the stamps for cash and buy what they want.


37 posted on 02/07/2012 8:06:28 AM PST by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: Melas

There are a lot of people on food stamps who are needy and hard working. Unfortunately there are many who are not. The abuse is tremendous.

They have found people living in million dollar homes getting food stamps. Apparently assets are not counted and certain other sources of income aren’t either, either social security and/or interest income, can’t remember the details.

BTW I have a friend who is worth a couple of million dollars. I sent him the link where he can find out if he is eligible. It turns out he is.

He was shocked. He is a big liberal but he’s beginning to turn more conservative.


38 posted on 02/07/2012 9:48:59 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: MrB

Well-stated MrB, well-stated sir.


39 posted on 02/07/2012 10:47:34 AM PST by PGalt
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To: kabumpo

News flash: the government has no business handing out food anyway, which is why I said the preferred solution is to eliminate it entirely. This function would be much more effectively conducted by churches and charities.


40 posted on 02/07/2012 12:31:07 PM PST by dinodino
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I agree! The government should not be in this business.


41 posted on 02/07/2012 12:32:33 PM PST by dinodino
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42 posted on 02/07/2012 1:23:23 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: goseminoles

They CAN’T buy alcohol. Cooking wine isn’t classified that way.


43 posted on 02/08/2012 9:03:32 PM PST by synbad600
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To: kabumpo
Some are elderly or disabled.

That's the problem right there. The programs that were set up to assist the truly needy are now over-run by frauds.

44 posted on 02/08/2012 9:10:46 PM PST by synbad600
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