Skip to comments.Pelosi: ‘I am going to stick with fellow Catholics’ in supporting Obama birth control mandate
Posted on 02/07/2012 5:10:33 AM PST by IbJensen
February 6, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Even as the United States Catholic bishops have launched an all-out campaign against the Obama administrations birth control mandate and urged their flocks to resistance, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has invoked the support of fellow Catholics to justify her position in favor of the mandate.
Pelosi was confronted at last Wednesdays press briefing by a reporter from CNSnews.com, who began by pointing out that the mandate, which requires all employers to cover all sterilizations and contraception, including drugs that can cause early abortions, forces Catholic individuals and institutions to act against Church teaching.
Irritated, Pelosi, a self-professed devout Catholic, interrupted: Is this a speech, or do we have a question in disguise as a speech?
The reporter continued, citing a letter from the U.S. bishops, in which the bishops vowed not to comply with the law, and asked: will you stand with your fellow Catholics in resisting this law or will you stick by the Administration?
First of all, I am going to stick with my fellow Catholics in supporting the Administration on this. I think it was a very courageous decision that they made, and I support it, the minority leader responded.
The comment came as at least 164 Catholic bishops across the country, representing over 90% of the countrys dioceses, have blasted the mandate, in many cases ensuring that letters were read to the faithful during Sunday Mass calling the mandate unconstitutional and unjust.
The question by the CNSnews reporter was not the first time Pelosi has been confronted about the apparent conflict between her political views and her claimed status as a devout Catholic.
In an interview with the Washington Post this past November, she acknowledged that many Catholics object to being forced to fund abortions, noting that they have this conscience thing.
The former speaker has also said she has some areas of disagreement with the countrys bishops, and has claimed that Catholicism does not necessarily condemn abortion.
However, the new modernist Catholic Church is clear on the issues being discussed here. This candidate for a strait jacket is confused: mentally.
She dares to call herself "catholic" because she believes she once was Catholic. There are many folks out there who think they are Catholic but disagree with everything the new Church stands for.
Pelosi IS excommunicated (she did this herself). However, the USCCB needs to make a public declaration (as a whole in my opinion) to announce to the world that she is officially recognized as excommunicated.
Personally I don't care if the world hates the Church for coming out and saying such a thing. The Church needs to do what is right; not what is popular. Perhaps the Church is on the way to throw out the newly created religion that Vatican II has apparently allowed.
I'm tired of Pelosi running around saying, "I'm catholic." That's what we need to put a stop to. And do so very, very publicly. Until she repents she has no right to claim to be a part of a Church she completely disagrees with.
YES... IT DOES... YOU TWIT!
I feel like I'm a victim from the movie Scanners. At any moment, I'm just waiting for my head to explode. What the Hell happened to the world over the last couple of years? My God!
This is the most stupid thing that has ever come out of her mouth. Catholics are against this, Nancy!
The USSCB has to put an excommunication on her @$$ as well as Kerry, Cuomo, Bart Stupidpak, and the rest of this PI$$@NT liberals.
In fact she prefers the "cafeteria" to Catholicism.
She should really refer to herself as a Cafeterian.
She needs excommunication badly.
We are living in a 1984 would. Obama and his minions' language is Doublespeak.
Before Christs second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers.
The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth will unveil the mystery of iniquity in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth.
Lying about Church teaching regarding the sin of abortion IS “apostasy from the truth”!
Wow, with friends like Pelosi, Catholics don’t need enemies.
Many of them brought this on themselves but supporting passage of Obama-care and are now saying they are sorry they did. “Mandates for thee but not for me” is their motto apparently.
Someone should tell them that taxes are a mandate too.
This woman’s arrogance is such that, in her mind, she’s more of an authority on Catholicism than the Pope.
A thousand years of damage in just three years.
“Lying about Church teaching regarding the sin of abortion IS apostasy from the truth!”
It’s one of those muslim things where the devout muslim can lie if needed to accomplish “Allah’s will”.
And it’s just “workplace violence” when “our” muslim soldier shouts “Allahu Akbar” and shoots Americans at an army base.
FREUD WOULD HAVE A FIELD DAY WITH THESE PEOPLE
Obama is very, v-e-r-y disturbed.......he exhibited the depths of his psychoses with this move against Catholics.
Obama seems to have a deep-seated need to devalue others (and their dearly-held beliefs).......as a way to bring others down to his level.
Devaluing others shores up Obamas pathetic lack of self-esteem.
She couldn’t lie straight in bed.
Note her constant desperation to inflate her ego with words like ‘courageous’ i.e. if they are courageous then so is she by dint of agreeing with them.
Of course she’s got it 180 deg backward but what else is new?
The bishops are waking up very late in the day. They're prepared to write letters and stamp their feet. But are they prepared to make it clear that every "Catholic" who shares Pelosi's views is in a state of mortal sin and have self-excommunicated? Are they willing to "downsize" the Church by expelling CINOs? We shall see.
If they do not, Obama will have been proven correct in his assessment of the Church.
Unfortunately this doesn’t qualify as apostasy. But perhaps it will be the final straw that qualifies her for excommunication. Excommunication isn’t some kind of fatal sentence and can be reversed, so it could be a wake-up-and-smell-the-coffee moment for her.
Only Pelosi. Anyone else and this would be satire.
Nancy is just as much a Catholic as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a Jew.
I agree, time to publicly excommunicate her.
Cute but WRONG!
The Catholic Church DOES NOT endorse her deceptions!
the catholics (small c) that Nancy knows are jiggy with obama’s mandates (not to mention his legislative history of voting against the “live birth protection act” multiple times...shudder)
nan’s liberal elitist acquaintances scorn the catholic yokels who are hung up on that “conscience thing”
“Say nan, how many abortions have your daughters had?”
Isn’t it amazing they spend their lives (and the life earnings of so many hard working Americans present and future) trying to rule the lives of people they hate so much
OK....all well and good!
We're still waiting....
Aren't you going to tell us??? We all agree with you!
Hmmmm - ah well, I suppose it was too much to ask for. Just like our politicians, we told what needs to be done. We get all enthused about agreeing with the statement. But what never gets laid out on the table so we can all see it is the answer to this very simple question:
H O W ????
Would you agree with me, Bill, that popes since Pope Pius XII owed our maker an explanation as to why an entirely new religion was created subsequent to Vatican II?
I guess that "fellow Catholics" refers to Joe Biden and Kathleen Sebelius. But I do not see any love in the murder of the unborn by people who want to call themselves Catholics.
Nancy likes to be ambiguous. She probably does not realize that, because she clearly has a disordered mind.
Pelosi is excommunicated by virtue of her defense of abortion and euthanasia. Poof!
Other Catholics, except for that Pope dude.
Pelosi is stupid AND evil, a lethal combination.
It is not Catholic to support abortion. Abortion is baby murder plain and simple
Pelosi is excommunicated by virtue of her defense of abortion and euthanasia. Poof!
Why has this evil woman not been publicly excommunicated? No one will ever respect the bishops or respect that position of the Church until it happens.
-—A thousand years of damage in just three years.-—
The Council wasn’t the problem.
The problem was and is “the spirit of Vatican II,” as interpreted by the heresiarchs and their enablers in the media.
Consider how Pope Paul’s 1968 encyclical against artificially-induced sterility was reviled by the media, and ignored by many leaders within the Church.
Pelosi worships Karl Marx.
This might be a good question to ask Fr. Z.
The stated position, that I’ve heard, is that she’s “self-excommunicated” because of her support of abortion and birth control, etc.
However, I see this as a really COWARDLY position to take on the part of the RCC.
As livius said, there should be a public and “positive” excommunication done by someone within the church. To not do so demonstrates weakness, cowardice, and defames the RCC.
Typical liberal tactic. Make people think radical beliefs are mainstream, that you are out of touch and of the minority if you have a different view. Surround yourself with a vast fictional army and go to war.
Makes you wonder what/who is going to make up the majority of the apostate church of the end times.... eh?
“The Council wasnt the problem.
The problem was and is the spirit of Vatican II,”
You are absolutely correct.
Pelosi was misquoted. She actually said I am going to stick it to fellow Catholics
Public excommunication has been the only thing that has ever worked with political figures. Pelosi is giving public scandal and she must be corrected publicly.
The same applies to Sibelius, who has been asked privately not to go to Communion...but obviously is not even slightly disturbed by this. Until her bishop publicly announces that she is not to be given Communion and is thus outside of the communion of the Church until she reconciles and accepts its authority over that of Caesar, she’ll continue to make a mockery of the whole thing by presenting herself as a Catholic.
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The biggest “slam” you can deliver to any liberal is a statement to the effect of
“you are NOT a ‘good person’ for these reasons”.
This is the end-all, be-all reason for being “liberal”,
Yours is a very good Post. I believe you are right in saying the majority of lay Catholics feel as she does.They have strayed from the teachings of the Church.The Church has strayed from them. They have watched as the Prince’s of the Church have sucked up to the Kennedy’s, and to politicians like Pelosi for years.
Ted Kennedy also excommunicated himself with his abortion stand, IMO he got away with murder,but they buried him in a Catholic service with a Cardinal at the service. They will do the same for Pelosi.
If they do not publicly excommunicate Pelosi now they have given up all credibility
Is Pelosi evil?
Don’t know for sure but i’ll bet that when her feet hit the floor in the morning Satan shudders and says..”Oh s**t, she’s awake.”
He's the one who convinced Stupak and his followers that Obamacare won't have abortion in it.
Excommunicate Doyle with the rest of them.
Pelosi is a CINO.
In the interview, Naumann says that after months of a "long dialogue" with the governor, he wrote her a letter, warning her privately not to present herself for Communion. But, he said, a parish priest informed him that she had done so.
Naumann pulled out the hammer. He went public. He proclaimed that the Kansas governor should not "present herself" for Holy Communion until she changed her stance on abortion. He told the Kansas City Star that would involve a confession, a public apology and a promise to undo the damage done by her "scandalous behavior that has misled people into dangerous behavior."
I don't know whether she still presents herself as a Catholic . . .
Amen, enough of this “she excommunicated herself” crap. It needs to be a public pronouncement and the price of her readmission is a public recantation of her heresy. Other punishment, such as wearing sack cloth and ashes or whipping, will be at discretion of local bishop.
Why isn’t she very publicly excommunicated from the Church along with Sibelius, Sen. John Kerry and other “Catholics” in the Obama administration who support this tyranny? While they may have the right to hold their opinion, they should not be able to represent themselves as Catholics.