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Pelosi: ‘I am going to stick with fellow Catholics’ in supporting Obama birth control mandate
Life Site News ^ | 2/6/2012 | Christine Dhanagom

Posted on 02/07/2012 5:10:33 AM PST by IbJensen

February 6, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Even as the United States’ Catholic bishops have launched an all-out campaign against the Obama administration’s birth control mandate and urged their flocks to resistance, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has invoked the support of “fellow Catholics” to justify her position in favor of the mandate.

Pelosi was confronted at last Wednesday’s press briefing by a reporter from CNSnews.com, who began by pointing out that the mandate, which requires all employers to cover all sterilizations and contraception, including drugs that can cause early abortions, forces Catholic individuals and institutions to act against Church teaching.

Irritated, Pelosi, a self-professed devout Catholic, interrupted: “Is this a speech, or do we have a question in disguise as a speech?”

The reporter continued, citing a letter from the U.S. bishops, in which the bishops vowed not to comply with the law, and asked: “will you stand with your fellow Catholics in resisting this law or will you stick by the Administration?”

“First of all, I am going to stick with my fellow Catholics in supporting the Administration on this. I think it was a very courageous decision that they made, and I support it,” the minority leader responded.

The comment came as at least 164 Catholic bishops across the country, representing over 90% of the country’s dioceses, have blasted the mandate, in many cases ensuring that letters were read to the faithful during Sunday Mass calling the mandate unconstitutional and unjust.

The question by the CNSnews reporter was not the first time Pelosi has been confronted about the apparent conflict between her political views and her claimed status as a “devout Catholic.”

In an interview with the Washington Post this past November, she acknowledged that many Catholics object to being forced to fund abortions, noting that “they have this conscience thing.”

The former speaker has also said she has “some areas of disagreement” with the country’s bishops, and has claimed that Catholicism does not necessarily condemn abortion.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: catholic; nutsypelosi; obozoswhore; pelosi; phonycatholic; sfidiot
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Pelosi's problem is that she's not the only "catholic" who has absolutely no clue what the difference between God's Law and MY LAW is. Vatican II has muddled many's thinking on all matters of faith and doctrine. Unfortunately the new Catholic Church is ingrained in the minds of the faithful and changes and punishments for the evil wrought by Vatican II won't be righted until the Second Coming.

However, the new modernist Catholic Church is clear on the issues being discussed here. This candidate for a strait jacket is confused: mentally.

She dares to call herself "catholic" because she believes she once was Catholic. There are many folks out there who think they are Catholic but disagree with everything the new Church stands for.

Pelosi IS excommunicated (she did this herself). However, the USCCB needs to make a public declaration (as a whole in my opinion) to announce to the world that she is officially recognized as excommunicated.

Personally I don't care if the world hates the Church for coming out and saying such a thing. The Church needs to do what is right; not what is popular. Perhaps the Church is on the way to throw out the newly created religion that Vatican II has apparently allowed.

I'm tired of Pelosi running around saying, "I'm catholic." That's what we need to put a stop to. And do so very, very publicly. Until she repents she has no right to claim to be a part of a Church she completely disagrees with.

1 posted on 02/07/2012 5:10:39 AM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
The former speaker has also said she has “some areas of disagreement” with the country’s bishops, and has claimed that Catholicism does not necessarily condemn abortion.

YES... IT DOES... YOU TWIT!

I feel like I'm a victim from the movie Scanners. At any moment, I'm just waiting for my head to explode. What the Hell happened to the world over the last couple of years? My God!

2 posted on 02/07/2012 5:16:51 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: IbJensen

This is the most stupid thing that has ever come out of her mouth. Catholics are against this, Nancy!


3 posted on 02/07/2012 5:18:13 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: IbJensen

The USSCB has to put an excommunication on her @$$ as well as Kerry, Cuomo, Bart Stupidpak, and the rest of this PI$$@NT liberals.


4 posted on 02/07/2012 5:18:52 AM PST by verga (Protestant puppies have their eyes closed, Catholic ones have their eyes open.)
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To: IbJensen
She's a "Cafeteria Catholic".

In fact she prefers the "cafeteria" to Catholicism.

She should really refer to herself as a Cafeterian.

5 posted on 02/07/2012 5:20:06 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: IbJensen

She needs excommunication badly.


6 posted on 02/07/2012 5:20:23 AM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: rarestia
What the Hell happened to the world over the last couple of years? My God!

We are living in a 1984 would. Obama and his minions' language is Doublespeak.

7 posted on 02/07/2012 5:20:27 AM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: IbJensen
Bravo! I couldn't agree more and have been saying the same thing. I would like nothing mire than the Pope himself to convey the news to America!
8 posted on 02/07/2012 5:20:38 AM PST by liberalh8ter (Obama - The United Nation's first U.S. Presidential Candidate)
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To: IbJensen

Before Christ’s second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers.

The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth will unveil the “mystery of iniquity” in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth.

Lying about Church teaching regarding the sin of abortion IS “apostasy from the truth”!


9 posted on 02/07/2012 5:20:40 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: IbJensen; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ..

Wow, with friends like Pelosi, Catholics don’t need enemies.

Many of them brought this on themselves but supporting passage of Obama-care and are now saying they are sorry they did. “Mandates for thee but not for me” is their motto apparently.

Someone should tell them that taxes are a mandate too.


10 posted on 02/07/2012 5:20:49 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: rarestia

This woman’s arrogance is such that, in her mind, she’s more of an authority on Catholicism than the Pope.


11 posted on 02/07/2012 5:23:21 AM PST by rbg81 (scillian's)
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To: IbJensen
Vatican II has muddled many's thinking on all matters of faith and doctrine.

A thousand years of damage in just three years.

12 posted on 02/07/2012 5:24:57 AM PST by Buddy Sorrell (It's Algebra, Uncle Fletcher.)
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To: G Larry

“Lying about Church teaching regarding the sin of abortion IS “apostasy from the truth”!”

It’s one of those muslim things where the devout muslim can lie if needed to accomplish “Allah’s will”.

And it’s just “workplace violence” when “our” muslim soldier shouts “Allahu Akbar” and shoots Americans at an army base.


13 posted on 02/07/2012 5:27:38 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: stayathomemom; rarestia; IbJensen
We are living in a 1984 world. Obama and his minions' language is Doublespeak.

FREUD WOULD HAVE A FIELD DAY WITH THESE PEOPLE

Obama is very, v-e-r-y disturbed.......he exhibited the depths of his psychoses with this move against Catholics.

Obama seems to have a deep-seated need to devalue others (and their dearly-held beliefs).......as a way to bring others down to his level.

Devaluing others shores up Obama’s pathetic lack of self-esteem.

14 posted on 02/07/2012 5:29:51 AM PST by Liz
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

She couldn’t lie straight in bed.

Note her constant desperation to inflate her ego with words like ‘courageous’ i.e. if they are courageous then so is she by dint of agreeing with them.

Of course she’s got it 180 deg backward but what else is new?


15 posted on 02/07/2012 5:33:31 AM PST by relictele (Green energy is neither)
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To: IbJensen
Sadly, the Catholic Church in America is simply reaping what it has sewn. Decades of coddling CINO politicians by the Church hierarchy, complete erosion of catachesis. The toleration of apostasies, large and small, both within the priesthood and the laity, all have resulted in the the reality that Pelosi views do indeed represent those of the average lay Catholic in America today. She is in the majority and Obama knows this, which is why he feels confident in this mandate.

The bishops are waking up very late in the day. They're prepared to write letters and stamp their feet. But are they prepared to make it clear that every "Catholic" who shares Pelosi's views is in a state of mortal sin and have self-excommunicated? Are they willing to "downsize" the Church by expelling CINOs? We shall see.

If they do not, Obama will have been proven correct in his assessment of the Church.

16 posted on 02/07/2012 5:36:28 AM PST by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: IbJensen

Unfortunately this doesn’t qualify as apostasy. But perhaps it will be the final straw that qualifies her for excommunication. Excommunication isn’t some kind of fatal sentence and can be reversed, so it could be a wake-up-and-smell-the-coffee moment for her.


17 posted on 02/07/2012 5:37:14 AM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: IbJensen

18 posted on 02/07/2012 5:37:52 AM PST by Zakeet (If Obama had half a brain, his butt would be lopsided)
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To: IbJensen

Only Pelosi. Anyone else and this would be satire.


19 posted on 02/07/2012 5:41:09 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: IbJensen

Nancy is just as much a Catholic as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a Jew.

I agree, time to publicly excommunicate her.


20 posted on 02/07/2012 5:44:48 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: treetopsandroofs

Cute but WRONG!

The Catholic Church DOES NOT endorse her deceptions!


21 posted on 02/07/2012 5:46:28 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

the catholics (small c) that Nancy knows are jiggy with obama’s mandates (not to mention his legislative history of voting against the “live birth protection act” multiple times...shudder)

nan’s liberal elitist acquaintances scorn the catholic yokels who are hung up on that “conscience thing”

“Say nan, how many abortions have your daughters had?”

Isn’t it amazing they spend their lives (and the life earnings of so many hard working Americans present and future) trying to rule the lives of people they hate so much


22 posted on 02/07/2012 5:47:28 AM PST by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common- Voltaire)
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To: IbJensen
I'm tired of Pelosi running around saying, "I'm catholic." That's what we need to put a stop to. And do so very, very publicly. Until she repents she has no right to claim to be a part of a Church she completely disagrees with.

OK....all well and good!

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We're still waiting....

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Aren't you going to tell us??? We all agree with you!

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Hmmmm - ah well, I suppose it was too much to ask for. Just like our politicians, we told what needs to be done. We get all enthused about agreeing with the statement. But what never gets laid out on the table so we can all see it is the answer to this very simple question:

H O W ????

23 posted on 02/07/2012 5:50:48 AM PST by Logic n' Reason ("To keep you is no benefit; to kill you is no loss.")
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To: AustinBill

Would you agree with me, Bill, that popes since Pope Pius XII owed our maker an explanation as to why an entirely new religion was created subsequent to Vatican II?


24 posted on 02/07/2012 5:50:56 AM PST by IbJensen (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: IbJensen
“First of all, I am going to stick with my fellow Catholics in supporting the Administration on this. I think it was a very courageous decision that they made, and I support it,” the minority leader responded.

I guess that "fellow Catholics" refers to Joe Biden and Kathleen Sebelius. But I do not see any love in the murder of the unborn by people who want to call themselves Catholics.

Nancy likes to be ambiguous. She probably does not realize that, because she clearly has a disordered mind.

25 posted on 02/07/2012 5:55:05 AM PST by olezip
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To: IbJensen

Pelosi is excommunicated by virtue of her defense of abortion and euthanasia. Poof!


26 posted on 02/07/2012 5:59:05 AM PST by Havisham
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To: IbJensen

Other Catholics, except for that Pope dude.


27 posted on 02/07/2012 5:59:05 AM PST by lurk
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To: IbJensen

Pelosi is stupid AND evil, a lethal combination.


28 posted on 02/07/2012 5:59:14 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: IbJensen

It is not Catholic to support abortion. Abortion is baby murder plain and simple


29 posted on 02/07/2012 6:00:12 AM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: IbJensen

Pelosi is excommunicated by virtue of her defense of abortion and euthanasia. Poof!


30 posted on 02/07/2012 6:01:09 AM PST by Havisham
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To: IbJensen

Why has this evil woman not been publicly excommunicated? No one will ever respect the bishops or respect that position of the Church until it happens.


31 posted on 02/07/2012 6:01:26 AM PST by livius
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To: rarestia
I feel like I'm a victim from the movie Scanners. At any moment, I'm just waiting for my head to explode. What the Hell happened to the world over the last couple of years? My God!

Evil is taking over, but only temporarily.
32 posted on 02/07/2012 6:08:38 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: Buddy Sorrell

-—A thousand years of damage in just three years.-—

The Council wasn’t the problem.

The problem was and is “the spirit of Vatican II,” as interpreted by the heresiarchs and their enablers in the media.

Consider how Pope Paul’s 1968 encyclical against artificially-induced sterility was reviled by the media, and ignored by many leaders within the Church.


33 posted on 02/07/2012 6:09:02 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: IbJensen

Pelosi worships Karl Marx.


34 posted on 02/07/2012 6:10:17 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: livius

This might be a good question to ask Fr. Z.

http://wdtprs.com/blog


35 posted on 02/07/2012 6:14:43 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: livius; Havisham

The stated position, that I’ve heard, is that she’s “self-excommunicated” because of her support of abortion and birth control, etc.

However, I see this as a really COWARDLY position to take on the part of the RCC.

As livius said, there should be a public and “positive” excommunication done by someone within the church. To not do so demonstrates weakness, cowardice, and defames the RCC.


36 posted on 02/07/2012 6:15:26 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

Typical liberal tactic. Make people think radical beliefs are mainstream, that you are out of touch and of the minority if you have a different view. Surround yourself with a vast fictional army and go to war.


37 posted on 02/07/2012 6:15:53 AM PST by Toespi
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To: crosshairs

Makes you wonder what/who is going to make up the majority of the apostate church of the end times.... eh?


38 posted on 02/07/2012 6:16:14 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

“The Council wasn’t the problem.

The problem was and is “the spirit of Vatican II,””

____________________________________________________________

You are absolutely correct.


39 posted on 02/07/2012 6:16:58 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: IbJensen

Pelosi was misquoted. She actually said “I am going to stick it to fellow Catholics”


40 posted on 02/07/2012 6:21:44 AM PST by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: MrB

Public excommunication has been the only thing that has ever worked with political figures. Pelosi is giving public scandal and she must be corrected publicly.

The same applies to Sibelius, who has been asked privately not to go to Communion...but obviously is not even slightly disturbed by this. Until her bishop publicly announces that she is not to be given Communion and is thus outside of the communion of the Church until she reconciles and accepts its authority over that of Caesar, she’ll continue to make a mockery of the whole thing by presenting herself as a Catholic.


41 posted on 02/07/2012 6:24:04 AM PST by livius
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To: IbJensen; VinceASA; NKP_Vet; Monkey Face; RIghtwardHo; pieces of time; Warthog-2; Tzar; ...
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42 posted on 02/07/2012 6:26:36 AM PST by narses
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To: livius

The biggest “slam” you can deliver to any liberal is a statement to the effect of

“you are NOT a ‘good person’ for these reasons”.

This is the end-all, be-all reason for being “liberal”,
self-righteousness.


43 posted on 02/07/2012 6:34:11 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: AustinBill

Yours is a very good Post. I believe you are right in saying the majority of lay Catholics feel as she does.They have strayed from the teachings of the Church.The Church has strayed from them. They have watched as the Prince’s of the Church have sucked up to the Kennedy’s, and to politicians like Pelosi for years.

Ted Kennedy also excommunicated himself with his abortion stand, IMO he got away with murder,but they buried him in a Catholic service with a Cardinal at the service. They will do the same for Pelosi.

If they do not publicly excommunicate Pelosi now they have given up all credibility


44 posted on 02/07/2012 6:34:41 AM PST by Venturer
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To: IbJensen

Is Pelosi evil?
Don’t know for sure but i’ll bet that when her feet hit the floor in the morning Satan shudders and says..”Oh s**t, she’s awake.”


45 posted on 02/07/2012 6:35:19 AM PST by CanadianYankee
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To: verga
Don't forget Mike Doyle (D, PA-14, Pittsburgh).

He's the one who convinced Stupak and his followers that Obamacare won't have abortion in it.

Excommunicate Doyle with the rest of them.

46 posted on 02/07/2012 6:36:59 AM PST by eCSMaster (Excommunicate evildoers)
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To: IbJensen

Pelosi is a CINO.


47 posted on 02/07/2012 6:39:45 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: livius
Naumann has gone public to some extent at least, per a Washington Post article of 2009:

In the interview, Naumann says that after months of a "long dialogue" with the governor, he wrote her a letter, warning her privately not to present herself for Communion. But, he said, a parish priest informed him that she had done so.

Naumann pulled out the hammer. He went public. He proclaimed that the Kansas governor should not "present herself" for Holy Communion until she changed her stance on abortion. He told the Kansas City Star that would involve a confession, a public apology and a promise to undo the damage done by her "scandalous behavior that has misled people into dangerous behavior."

I don't know whether she still presents herself as a Catholic . . .

48 posted on 02/07/2012 6:40:52 AM PST by maryz
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To: IbJensen

Amen, enough of this “she excommunicated herself” crap. It needs to be a public pronouncement and the price of her readmission is a public recantation of her heresy. Other punishment, such as wearing sack cloth and ashes or whipping, will be at discretion of local bishop.


49 posted on 02/07/2012 7:02:47 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: IbJensen

Why isn’t she very publicly excommunicated from the Church along with Sibelius, Sen. John Kerry and other “Catholics” in the Obama administration who support this tyranny? While they may have the right to hold their opinion, they should not be able to represent themselves as Catholics.


50 posted on 02/07/2012 7:03:59 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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