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Posted on 02/07/2012 7:53:18 AM PST by Sub-Driver
American kids denied food stamps in Alabama under immigration law
By Liz Goodwin
Some U.S.-born children with parents who are illegal immigrants have been denied food stamps under Alabama's new immigration law, Southern Poverty Law Center President Richard Cohen told Yahoo News on Monday.
Five people have called into the group's Alabama hotline to say they were denied food stamps because they couldn't prove they were legal residents, even though the food stamps are for their children, who are citizens.
Cohen says the civil rights group, which has already filed two lawsuits against Alabama over the law, will most likely bring another suit over the denied food stamps.
The law makes it a felony for a government employee to engage in "business transactions" with illegal immigrants, which some government employees have interpreted very broadly. Illegal immigrants have been told they can't pay their utility bills or even their taxes because it would count as a "transaction" with the government, according to Cohen.
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“Some U.S.-born children with parents who are illegal immigrants have been denied food stamps under Alabama’s new immigration law”
I LOVE it!
Too bad. Go mooch off of somebody else, kids.
Activist journalism at its finest. The media is committed to blowing up this law.
I’d love to see the dollar amount, that is given per month, per person.
In Idaho, a 24 yr old couple, with a 9 month old child are given ~$900/month in food stamps. My wife and I don’t spend a THIRD of that a month, yet we are actually working and earning money and paying the taxes that fund this outrage.
This is an article that tells us what we already know: ILLEGALS ARE SAPPING OUR CITIZEN'S BENEFITS, AND TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR IT.
I believe that the whole "Anchor Baby" issue needs to be re-visited, wherein some Foreigner gains access to the Country illegally, deposits a baby, and suddenly there's a New American Citizen? BULLSHIT!
There are plenty of churches, food banks, and other charities who would see that the kids get fed, if it really came down to it.
Besides, they had fun breeding them, they can have fun feeding them.
Yes. That's the realistic lesson of this story.
See, you dont have to deport them all. Just start by cutting off the gravy train. Free food and college is a great way to put up a sign in Mexico that says :”The US welcomes you with open arms, and hands of cash”
Imagine a Federal court ruling that an illegal alien has the constitutional right to do business with the local government, I can see it happening.
There is a basic legal principal here. Minors are to a great extent the legal chattel of their parents, unless the state intervenes and makes them charges of the government.
Children cannot thus be the *direct* beneficiaries of aid, it must go to a responsible adult, because children can neither sign for it in receipt, not be held responsible for contracts.
A state can refuse to give aid to a person of foreign citizenship. As such, those parents have the choice to either leave the state, to another state that does give aid to illegal aliens, or to their home country; or they can opt to not get aid in the first place.
That they live in economic hardship is not the fault of the state or its citizens, nor should they be held responsible for the care and feeding of foreign citizens, or their children, even if those children are US citizens.
This changes once those children reach the age of 18.
I don’t believe you. A single parent with seven kids in Florida doesn’t get that. Quit spreading false information.
:: even though the food stamps are for their children ::
Read the rules and regulations. Food Stamps are supplemetal to the PARENTS INCOME to ^provide^ for the children.
Dependents do not receive “food stamp” benefits.
Why the need for food stamps if they're some of the few who are privileged to be working?
Correct, and it should also be the legal principle used to Remove them from PUBLIC SCHOOLS, for it is the Parents who receive the Benefits for their children. If the Parents are here Illegally they should not receive ANY BENEFIT of Education for their offspring, regardless of their status.
“Document” yourselves, idiots! If you want the bennies, then become an AMERICAN CITIZEN!!! If not, then go back to where you came from!
That sounds about right. Our neighbors I think qualified for that much. And they, unlike the moochers I see at the checkout each week with their tattoos, iPhones, gold-wearing babies, and outlandish manicures, really do need the assistance. The husband has been battling brain cancer and they have two little ones. A good, Christian family who just needs help until they can get back on their feet.
Hodar said approx $900 which is wrong but not by much, a simple google search of Idaho rates show a family of 4 recieves $668 a month in food stamp assistance in Idaho.
Well, cry me a river.
Maybe this will get some focus back onto the government’s ridiculous interpretation of the 14th Amendment which allows for birthright citizenship in this country. How unreal it is for a country to allow any pregnant woman from any part of the world to come here and give birth to her child and that child becomes a citizen of that country automatically, regardless of the mother’s citizenship?
No wonder we can’t get a handle on this illegal invasion! Our so-called “representatives” are either too gutless or too power-hungry to enforce the laws and then we have these businesses who all want cheap labor. To top it off, all these invaders have to do is plop a kid out on American soil and voila! That kid is now an American, entitled to all the benefits America has to offer and ... lookie here! Why, we can’t leave Mommy Dearest out of the loop so we have to hook her up with with American bennies too!
We know 0bama won’t do anything to stop this (as he needs these invaders’ votes) but who in the GOP will do something about this? Can’t believe Romney, though he sounds tough on immigration. Mr. Newt doesn’t believe it’s “humane” to send back these criminals who have been here for 20 years or more. Mr. Paul ... hmph! Give me a break, that guy probably just whines about how it’s our fault because we probably stole the Southwest and Mexico has a legitimate grievance against us. So where does that leave Mr. Santorum?
I’m just getting real fed up with this whole issue. Just when it seems like states try to do something about this, the “Hate America First” crowd comes out of the woodwork to find ways to further the rot in this country.
It is crazy to me that these liberals don’t see their own hypocrisy. One one hand they are so concerned about the rights of children of illegals, but aborting the unborn children of U.S. citizens is an issue they would fight tooth an nail for? How does that make any sense?
Good. The law is working as intended. Go to Georgia and mooch off of them. We in Alabama don’t want to feed you or your kids anymore.
Richard Cohen is a lying sack of sh** poverty pimp of the worst kind.
NO children in Alabama - LEGAL OR NOT - receive food stamp. NONE, ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH, NADA!!!!! Their parents receive Food Stamps -- and in these cases their Parents are ILLEGAL and are INELIGIBLE. A person with the IQ of a thumb Tack can understand that -- which shows just how low Richard Cohen's IQ is.
Thanks for sharing correct information. Not that I agree with this, but let’s be honest..
Maybe this will get some focus back onto the governments ridiculous interpretation of the 14th Amendment which allows for birthright citizenship in this country.
I wholeheartedly agree! There should be a provision that states - If citizenship occurs as a result of breaking the law, then citizenship can be revoked.
I disagree somewhat with the anti “anchor baby” sentiment I see on this forum. My Grandfather was born here but was taken back to Hungary as a baby. As he was a jus soli citizen, he was able to migrate back to this country as a young man and begin working as a blacksmith for the railroads. He worked very hard and was proud to be an American. My Grandmother, also a Hungarian immigrant, was a proud American citizen and wouldn’t let my father and my uncle speak Hungarian because they were American.
The issue is not with jus soli immigration, it has to do with the amount of benefits and the attitude of those who migrate here who have no desire to assimilate to the American culture and work ethic.
Before you call someone a liar; it's usually best to have a clue that YOU have an idea of what you are babbling about ... obviously, you don't.
But, never fear; I'll do the footwork for you, because you are too ignorant to use Google.
Do some math ... Let's start with the Federal mandated SNAP program - which by itself provides a base that is higher than what most families who actually work, have for monthly grocery bills.
Household Maximum Monthly Benefit*
Now, let's add the cash card you can get for incidentals, free Health Coverage and Child Care Assistance
And last, and this is the neatest part ..... College students qualify. So, just because you are going to college and taking out loans - doesn't mean that you can't start a family and get a good jump start on living off the taxpayer teat. Why get a job? Why bother coming here legally? Then we wonder why we are going bankrupt. It's well over $900/month ....
See post #20
It’s actually well over $900 when you figure in Food Stamps, plus the cash card. This doesn’t include the free health care, free child daycare provisions, free mortgage assistance and WIC programs.
If that is not true (and I believe it is) then all they need to do is to feed their spawn cough syrup and then go to SS dept and get them diagnosed with a disability of ADD.
Instant $700 PER CHILD PER MONTH.
Actually, that might be a way around this problem, because (at least public) education is required by law, of US citizen minors, it is not seen by the courts as a parental benefit.
Many schools have long offered free breakfast, as well as lunch, to poor children. The lunch is federal, paid for by the National School Lunch Act of 1946, with the cost of breakfast paid for by the state.
This means the only gaps that exist are for children under the age of five, and for all on weekends. Their illegal alien parents should be able to pick up most of that.
There is an additional twist to this, in the news just a week ago. The state of Arizona is considering a law that would allow its public schools to no longer be a part of the federal school lunch program.
Though it has had very little publicity, this is a public school nuclear weapon, because for decades the federal government has demanded all sorts of things from schools under threat of taking away their school lunch program money.
Over time, this has resulted in huge administrative costs, and burned up huge amounts of student time, to conform to all these federal demands. But if schools choose to kiss off the federal lunch program, they will be freed from tons of federal bureaucracy and save a fortune.
At the same time, they will continue to feed their children, saving more than enough money to do so. But when the feds realize what is going on, they are going to freak out, because this would end their endless interference in the schools.
Instead of being a smart ass, your numbers are correct. I am a TANF/FSET case manager. I was correcting disinformation. I appreciate your research efforts. Btw, these laws need to be revisited.. 48 months is wayyyy too long. It needs to be cut in half for cash recipients.
I’m a smart ass? Please re-read your post ... you called me a liar and told me to shut up.
I simply answered with some FACTS with sources. If you had asked me how I came up with those number, your response would have been far more civil.
If you want civility; act civily. When you call someone a liar - don’t expect a kind and courteous reply.
As a case manager - you SHOULD HAVE KNOWN my numbers were accurate. But, your knee-jerk response was to call me a liar and tell me to shut up. Now, I’m a smart ass?
That’s what the losers do when they time out on tanf benefits. I’ve been home sick for two days. This whole country makes me ill... im tired of supporting shitheads in our society while I work hard and pay taxes. Yes, in bitter...
I can’t recall whether it was just California, but here a family making 15k per year and receiving public assistance has more discretionary income than a family earning 60k without assistance.
Despite the screaming headline, it appears the only connection these kids have to America is that their parents invaded the country and popped them out here.
How does that make them Americans more than a cat having kittens in an orange crate makes the kittens oranges?
Good. We need to start that here in GA also. It took me awhile to figure out why I was watching illegals swiping peachcards in the grocery. Than it hit me that they are running down and registering for welfare for their anchor babies. Our new immigration law does not allow illegals to get welfare but thats how they get around it.
Re-read my post. I concurred with the amounts. I was discrediting a prior post. I could write all day about the truths of tanf recipients. You would be amazed at the fraud. Simmer down now...
Why cash at all? If mortgage assistance is given, a clothing allowance is given - what is the cash for? So they can go to the movies, buy alcohol? It seems pretty cushy to me - I work, my wife works, and we don't spend this amount of money on our 'fun stuff' - I guess we are fools.
Are unemployed bums entitled to movies and popcorn? Why are we giving them cash? We are paying taxes, we are paying off our debts, we are both working full time jobs and trying to get ahead. Our grocery bill is less than what the bums are spending on SNAP. I've got a generic bread sandwich in the fridge right now, with 1 slice of bologna, 1 slice of Cotta salami and 1 slice of Pepperjack cheese with miricle whip dressing. That's my lunch, same as yesterday, tomorrow and the rest of the week. For breakfast I feasted on a blueberry bagel with blueberry cream cheese. Same as yesterday, tomorrow and the rest of the week. Tonight, I'll have some manwiches and baked beans. My grocery bill is like $250/month for my wife and I. But, when you are working to support bums, who eat better than we do - I guess we just don't know our place. We should just quit being smart Asses, work double-shifts and stfu, right?
I'm just an engineer, making more than the average person - but my expenses in these areas are far below what the bums are getting; and it makes me mad.
The snopes version of the story, of course, tries to nitpick on the details, but the general analysis is basically correct.
Let me fill you in on something. They get the food stamp amounts you stated. They get cash on there ebt card, free child care through Early Learning Coalition, free rent(I’ve seen $1200the a month), free electric, free cell phone, $9.99 internet, gas cards, bus passes, and they are lard asses. Welcome to America!! Makes me want to throw in the towel..
I can easily believe that. When you figure in the amount paid for taxes, mortgage/rent, food and then in many cases free bus fair or car assistance - this sounds fairly reasonable. And it's even more aggregious when you figure in the illegal issues.
Consider, family A and family B - both with 2 kids, both parents working. Family A is legal, family B is illegal. Family A pays taxes on their income - as they are here legally. This income then deducts from the total elgibility for Gov't assistance. Family B, pays NO taxes - thus their income on paper is $0 - thus they qualify for maximum assistance. Then, we wonder why we have an illegal alien issue.
My wife and I dont spend a THIRD of that a month....
Well, that’s probably because you don’t buy all of that convenience food and those luxury products.
I’ll bet a couple such as the one you referenced has all of the latest in electronics and electronics services, too.
Oh, those poor bastards ... < /s>
There are way too many people on Food Stamps, period. Legal, illegal, whatever. The program needs to be cut in half. That will get rid of pretty much all illegals and a lot of legal moochers too. Food Stamps is the most abused program in the government. The only criteria to get food stamps is to be lazy.
Hey man, im with you.. this society disgusts me. Im glad to have a job, but this is definitely short term. This job made me go back to school at 41..
Another liberal attempt to blame America for the criminal actions of non-citizens.