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Morning Bell: Obamacare Awakens a Sleeping Giant
Heritage Foundation ^ | February 7, 2012 | Mike Brownfield

Posted on 02/07/2012 3:21:16 PM PST by NYer

It is a rare moment indeed when faith denominations of all stripes unite together in common cause, and it is rarer still when that cause is a political one, with a sole piece of legislation as its principal target. But when that law eviscerates the very foundation of religious liberty in America as protected under the First Amendment, it should not be surprising that Catholics and Jews, evangelical Christians, and mainline Lutherans alike find common cause in defense of their liberties.

Such is the case with the firestorm of opposition to Obamacare and the Obama Administration’s attack on religious liberty. Under a new Obamacare mandate issued by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), the White House is mandating that virtually all religious employers, with the exception of churches, provide health care coverage for contraception — including abortion-inducing drugs — thereby trampling upon their constitutionally guaranteed free exercise of religion. And it is this mandate that has caused a vehement response in churches and synagogues across the country.

Yesterday, the head of the Catholic League, Bill Donohue, warned that the nation’s 70 million Catholics are ready to go to war with the Administration’s dictates, saying “Never before, unprecedented in American history, for the federal government to line up against the Roman Catholic Church. This is going to be fought out with lawsuits, with court decisions, and, dare I say it, maybe even in the streets.”

Donohue’s remarks follow those of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and at least 153 Catholic bishops across the country who have weighed in with opposition to the mandate. “We Catholics will be compelled to either violate our consciences, or to drop health coverage for our employees and suffer the penalties for doing so,” wrote Bishop Alexander Sample of Marquette, Michigan. Those penalties include fines imposed by the federal government that could cost larger organizations millions of dollars per year.

The Catholic Church is not alone in its opposition to Obamacare’s onslaught against religious freedom. David Addington, The Heritage Foundation’s vice president of Domestic and Economic Policy, details the growing ranks of the faithful who say the Obama Administration has crossed a very dangerous line. The National Association of Evangelicals commented that “The HHS rules trample on our most cherished freedoms and set a dangerous precedent” and the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America stated, “In declining to expand the religious exemption within the healthcare reform law, the Obama Administration has disappointingly failed to respect the needs of religious organizations such as hospitals, social welfare organizations and more.” The Agudath Israel of America stated its opposition, as did the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod and the Assembly of Canonical Orthodox Bishops of North and Central America.

The Obama Administration is beginning to feel the pressure. On Sunday, HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius authored an op-ed in USA Today defending the Obama Administration’s actions, claiming that a very narrow exemption to the mandate is evidence that the White House is “working to strike the right balance between respecting religious beliefs and increasing women’s access to critical preventive health services.” That exemption, though, does not apply to institutions like religious schools and hospitals. Sebelius might claim the Administration is offering grace to people of faith, but in fact it is not. In an editorial that ran the same day as Sebelius,’ USA Today agreed with those standing on the side of religious liberty, writing that “in drawing up the rules that will govern health care reform” the Obama Administration “galloped over” the line and violated the “simple proposition that the government should steer away from meddling in church affairs.”

The Obama Administration’s actions, though entirely counter to the freedom of religion, should not be surprising given the nature of the President’s health care law. Obamacare has given the federal government broad power over one-sixth of the American economy and thereby purports to grant Washington the power to force religious institutions to take actions contrary to their faith. Addington writes that this kind of concentration of power “has proved to be a drastic and dangerous experiment.” America’s religious leaders and the faithful have awoken to this wolf at their door and are lashing out in defense of their freedoms. Congress, too, should act now by repealing Obamacare and restoring the religious liberty that is so central to our way of life.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; catholic; catholicvote; christian; conscienceclause; hhs; jew; proaborts

1 posted on 02/07/2012 3:21:24 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 02/07/2012 3:22:19 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

Honestly, this really is the best thing that could happen. It brings back the Healthcare front and center. With the ecomony doing so fantastically (lol) this will motivate us agaIN. He is a POS and I feel like I did in 2009/10 right before we kicked everyone out!!!!!


3 posted on 02/07/2012 3:24:31 PM PST by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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To: GoCards

They should join the suit that’s going to the Supremes. Or at least petition them to join, keep in green and in the news.


4 posted on 02/07/2012 3:30:09 PM PST by KT22
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To: GoCards

I wouldn’t discount the possibility that this is all a big bait and switch, and that in a few months Obama is going to magnanimously reverse what he will call “Sebelius’s overreach” or something, and reinstate the conscience exception clause to Obamacare. The press will spin it as showing how deeply Obama cares about Catholics and other people of faith, et cetera., and all will be forgiven and the RC Bishops will endorse Obama for President again.

Or am I too cynical?


5 posted on 02/07/2012 3:31:35 PM PST by Argus
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To: NYer
Well it seems as if Obama has finally accomplished his promise of uniting the United States of America.

Against him.

6 posted on 02/07/2012 3:33:05 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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Obama could propose a solution....

maybe shuffle the money so every taxpaying citizen can get what they want as long as religious people aren’t connected directly

they have a problem with offering coverage directly, so to protect womens rights and equal protection, the government can offer free vouchers for all birth control and cut government funding to catholic hospitals or other religious institutions to cover the cost of it.

this could apply to all moral objections and religions as well

problem solved!


7 posted on 02/07/2012 3:34:13 PM PST by snowstorm12
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To: Argus

Exactly. Nothing good will come of this. Obamacare will stand, he will win reelection, and we’re f***ed. Period.


8 posted on 02/07/2012 3:35:47 PM PST by huckfillary (qual tyo ta)
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To: Argus

Cynical, no. But realistic, I think. He absolutely could be doing this as a bait/switch, he is a politician. I can only hope our side is in front of this. But right now, we need to educate all again. He has done this before, he has a pattern now. We need to bring back into the headlines that awful No vote against the Infant born Alive Bill(not sure of correct name)


9 posted on 02/07/2012 3:37:41 PM PST by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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10 posted on 02/07/2012 3:44:10 PM PST by narses
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To: NYer

This is going to be fought out with lawsuits, with court decisions, and, dare I say it, maybe even in the streets.”

Don’t forget fighting with the ballot box.


11 posted on 02/07/2012 3:52:23 PM PST by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: NYer

I think Obama was just arrogant enough to think that dumping on the Catholic Church would be a cake walk.

I wouldn’t want to start singing “Ding Dong The Witch is Dead” too soon, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama throws Sibelius under the bus if the doody really starts hitting the fan for him politically.


12 posted on 02/07/2012 3:53:08 PM PST by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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To: Argus
Or am I too cynical?

Sadly I am not certain if you are cynical enough.

13 posted on 02/07/2012 3:57:20 PM PST by verga (Protestant puppies have their eyes closed, Catholic ones have their eyes open.)
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To: NYer

Incredible that THIS was posted on May 12, 2009!!!!!!

(but, we didn’t like Bath-House Barry because of the color of his skin/sarc)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVN2MMuiedI&feature=iv&lr=1&user=RealCatholicTV&src_vid=UC7j6LMJWzI&annotation_id=annotation_515408


14 posted on 02/07/2012 4:01:27 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: snowstorm12

“problem solved!”

Wouldn’t we still have the rest of Obamacare?

Why are you proposing a problem solution to help “them” with this specific when the whole thing is a problem?


15 posted on 02/07/2012 4:03:36 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: NYer
Folks this ALL goes back to Romney !!

Romneycare is the FATHER of Obamacare !

16 posted on 02/07/2012 4:06:28 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: NYer

There is a reason why the roads of hell are paved with the skulls of bishops.


17 posted on 02/07/2012 4:06:40 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: GoCards

This is a quote from lib Wikipedia regarding pro-lifer Jill Stanek and Obama’s vote against the Born Alive Infants Protection bill. Written by libs, but you get the gist of it...

“Obama infanticide accusations

Stanek generated national news during the 2008 Presidential campaign when publicizing Barack Obama’s four votes against Illinois’ Born Alive Infants Protection Act while state senator as well as his state senate floor testimony.[9] She posted a vote tally on her blog[10] showing that, during a March 12, 2003, meeting of the Illinois State Senate’s Health and Human Services Committee, Committee Chairman Barack Obama prevented the passage of an amendment to Bill 1082 that would have conveyed “the rights of personhood upon any fetus expelled or extracted from the womb if that fetus was capable of breathing or voluntary motion.”[11] Stanek argued that Obama had supported the killing of such infants and claimed that he had advocated for infanticide.”

Stanek later accused Obama of allowing statutory rape to go undetected by opposing parental notification laws.[12]
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18 posted on 02/07/2012 4:13:07 PM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: NYer

Frankly, I’m getting tired of the surrender monkey parades and the defeatists that these threads bring out. If you’ve given up, dig a bloody hole and bury yourselves.


19 posted on 02/07/2012 4:24:18 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Adder

Considering the fact that the parasites are about to outnumber the producers and the MSM is more than willing to cover the blatant fraud by the left in any election in this country, I consider your statement laughable and naive.

The ballot box is pointless, and we have only ourselves to blame for letting it happen.

Be prepared to do as you’re told. You have no other choice that you’re willing to use.


20 posted on 02/07/2012 4:26:26 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Argus
I wouldn’t discount the possibility that this is all a big bait and switch, and that in a few months Obama is going to magnanimously reverse what he will call “Sebelius’s overreach” or something, and reinstate the conscience exception clause to Obamacare. The press will spin it as showing how deeply Obama cares about Catholics and other people of faith, et cetera., and all will be forgiven and the RC Bishops will endorse Obama for President again.

Or am I too cynical?

I said a similar thing on an earlier post, but I didn't ax whether I was too cynical.

With this communist, halfrican, mooselimb low life prick, there is nothing that he wouldn't do to keep his personal servants and his female companion's free rides {his male companion, reggie love, went back to chicago}.

When GWB was President, I never could understand how libs could say that Bush wasn't their President, I now understand now concur, this communist prick isn't my President.

21 posted on 02/07/2012 4:26:41 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: NYer
the head of the Catholic League, Bill Donohue, warned that the nation’s 70 million Catholics are ready to go to war with the Administration’s dictates... This is going to be fought out with lawsuits, with court decisions, and, dare I say it, maybe even in the streets.”

Hey BILL, how about in the f*ing voting booth? Why don't you get your fellow parishioners in line for the real fight? We don't really need millions of "catholics" voting for Obama because of whorehouse bullshit like "social justice." Get it?

22 posted on 02/07/2012 4:55:00 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: NYer
“Never before, unprecedented in American history, for the federal government to line up against the Roman Catholic Church."

What did he think was gonna happen?

23 posted on 02/07/2012 4:58:17 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: verga
Sadly I am not certain if you are cynical enough.

I'm starting to wonder if even that is possible.

24 posted on 02/07/2012 5:06:27 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Libloather
What did he think was gonna happen?

They want this. The liberals want violence.....they want religions and conservatives in the streets so OWS and agent provacateurs can incite violence.

......there is a war coming and it is not going to end nicely.

25 posted on 02/07/2012 5:15:55 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (Gingrich=Tea Party, Romney=Gerald Ford)
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To: Libloather
What did he think was gonna happen?

They want this. The liberals want violence.....they want religions and conservatives in the streets so OWS and agent provacateurs can incite violence.

......there is a war coming and it is not going to end nicely.

26 posted on 02/07/2012 5:16:31 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Pox

You have no other choice that you’re willing to use.

Push me hard enough and there will be expanded choices I will be willing to use.

As will many others.


27 posted on 02/07/2012 5:28:16 PM PST by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: Adder

Believe me, I’m in that same category, and I have a couple of ideas on how that push can happen for millions more if needed, but in the end, we’re all “fat and happy” and I just don’t see any of us doing anything useful and the “powers that be” understand that all too well.

I want to be wrong more than you can imagine, but I just don’t see any light at the end of this tunnel. I’ll keep on hoping for the best I suppose.


28 posted on 02/07/2012 5:55:39 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: NYer

This article is bunk.

Within a week the media will have killed this story and the sheeple will have forgotten all about it. The Catholic church will have been bought off or intimated into dropping the whole thing and it will go away.

Bet me?


29 posted on 02/07/2012 6:35:37 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: Pox
I understand completely. I have spent the last years so appoplecticaly enraged at the deliberate destruction of this country and the rape of its history, culture and treasury. zerocare and the electronic rape of each and everyone of us at the hands of OUR dr.s is my last straw. I refuse to play. I am sensing a tidal wave that 2010 only started. I hope I am right and from the numbers of democratic incumbents quitting rather than running, I think they see it too. I sure as hell hope so.
30 posted on 02/07/2012 6:45:57 PM PST by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: tacticalogic
Sadly I am not certain if you are cynical enough.

I'm so cynical that I believe the RATs have run the numbers and likely donations and concluded that it makes the most sense to dump on all Christians and their values; get the base and the MSM excited.

Zero is as likely to reverse this HHS decision as Komen is to defund PP.

31 posted on 02/07/2012 7:27:36 PM PST by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: NYer
America’s religious leaders and the faithful have awoken to this wolf at their door and are lashing out in defense of their freedoms.

Sadly, the USCCB let the wolf IN by taking Obama at his word when he said there would be religious exemptions in the Obamacare legislation. Obama knew that the exemptions would be so narrow as to be useless, but he considered the Bishops useful idiots in his desire to take over health care in this country, so he let them believe what they wanted to believe about the legislation.

32 posted on 02/07/2012 7:29:05 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Argus
"Or am I too cynical?"

I don't think you're being "too cynical", Barry is totally capable of the sort of thing you suggest. However, in this case, I'm not so sure Barry was focused on dealing specifically with Catholics as much as he was focused on making BarryCare look more like RomneyCare by the time the Republicans officially have Bishop Romney as their candidate. Whenever you look at something Barry does that relates in any way impacts religion, you have to look at what Barry has gobbled up about Jooooz and Catholics for his entire life. Rev. Wright would periodically go on rants about the Jooooz running the world and equally as often go on long rants right out of the Mooze Lame book of lies about the Catholic Church. Wright is solidly among the anti-Catholic conspiracy theorists who believe the Catholic Church has billions and trillions tucked away in Swiss bank accounts along with an unlimited ability to wring money out of parishioners. Looking at the "insights" into the Catholic Church from Rev. Wright Barry's belief that the State can dictate to religion just as it does in totalitarian Iz Lame Ick countries, and I think Barry and his "Catholic" HHS pals would just see dollar signs when they looked at the Catholic Church. They figured they had the perfect way to infuse a ton of money into BarryCare which would, on paper, make it seem closer to solvent as well as providing benefits "everyone wants and deserves". They looked at the balance sheet for RomneyCare and figured they could match it if they bled enough money out of the Catholic Church and any other religious group they thought they could count on to pay the penalties rather than providing the benefits.

Since Barry was so successful in attracting Catholics in Name Only and has the full support of the "Catholics" like Nasty Pelosi, he thought that US Bishops wouldn't resist this and wouldn't listen to Rome. Instead, he figured they'd just dig into that mythical pile of money they have to pay the penalty for each employee, and in doing so, go a long way to making BarryCare look just as "solvent" as RomneyCare. Considering the number of nominally Catholic Hospitals Barry figured it was a slam dunk way to pour money into BarryCare and after the Church announced it would not comply and would instead pay the fines, Barry could easily defend BarryCare as being every bit as "practical" as RomneyCare.

Narcissists don't think in terms of "bait and switch" politics except in fairly desperate cases where they've rationalized doing so into not being an admission that they needed help from a particular person or group. That's exactly why Barry remained aloof from all the wheeling and dealing to get BarryCare passed. He doesn't see himself as someone who has to lower himself to bargaining. Someone may convince him he should modify his position prior to the election, but now that the Church is actively resisting him, it's going to be touch and go to sell a reversal to him and anything else is going to be so clearly a scam no one is going to buy it.

Once there are Catholics who publicly agree with him rather than the Pope and US Bishops, the ego rush Barry gets from looking at how many Catholics prefer him to the Church is going to be hard for him to give up. He may well back down prior to the election if practical political considerations prevail, but now that even US Bishops have gone on the warpath against him, backing down would do him more harm with the left than it would help him among Catholics. No one will believe that anything he says will stick beyond election day.

The only thing you can ever really count on with Barry is that he'll do whatever feeds his narcissistic bubble and keeps him from having to face reality. His "in crowd" knows this and at this point will only make a change if they can sell it to Barry in a way that feeds his ego.

JMHO

33 posted on 02/07/2012 7:36:33 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: NYer

Obama will relent (for now) and the Media and Church will celebrate his courage.


34 posted on 02/07/2012 7:55:19 PM PST by Mike Darancette (11/06/2012: Starts "Occupy the White House")
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To: NYer

It’s about time this govt health care program gets more scrutiny...
as they say, the Devil is in the details...
wonder how folks like Bart Stupak feel these days?


35 posted on 02/08/2012 7:26:15 AM PST by matginzac
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To: NYer

BOYYYY Obama really step into this one eh NYER LOL!


36 posted on 02/08/2012 9:51:03 AM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: SevenofNine
Romney's response will be:
“it nothing to get angry about”

If I was Santorum I would put and add up:
With this issue then Romney saying “”it nothing to get angry about”
Then show Town Hall meeting clips then Romney saying “”it nothing to get angry about”

etc.....

37 posted on 02/08/2012 10:03:11 AM PST by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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To: NYer

It’s not enough to expand the exemption to schools, hospital etc. (which is what I think will happen). What about the small business owner who doesn’t want to pay for these things? Will he be forced to choose between obeying the law or God? Without complete repeal of the Obamacare act, the power will still remain.


38 posted on 02/08/2012 10:11:46 AM PST by tnlibertarian (Selfishly stealing other people's witticisms for taglines since 2002.)
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