Or this:
Posted on 02/07/2012 7:57:00 PM PST by WilliamIII
A memorial to Dwight D. Eisenhower is scheduled to be unveiled on the Washington Mall in 2015, but first a thorny dispute needs to be resolved between Eisenhower's family and renowned architect Frank Gehry. Ike's relatives think Gehry's design—which features a statue of Eisenhower as boy in Kansas looking out on vistas of his future accomplishments—as a country bumpkin. They are demanding changes before the project moves forward, and Gehry has yet to comment publicly, notes the New York Times. (The AP had a similar story last month.)
“He was chief of staff of the Army; he was a two-term president of the United States,” says a granddaughter, Susan Eisenhower. “It’s in those roles that America has gratitude for him, not as being a young boy with a great future in front of him.” The National Capital Planning Commission, which must sign off on the design, has received a letter from the relatives and said only that it "appreciates the comments provided by the Eisenhower family." Groundbreaking is scheduled to start this year.
(Excerpt) Read more at newser.com ...
Clearly, the artist was looking for a way to ignore or minimize Ike's historical accomplishments.
Eisenhower family, stay strong on this!
You have much support.
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I’m with the family. When I saw this article, I wondered if the memorial was going to be crescent shaped or something similar.
No more monuments or museums in DC. We cannot afford it!
Or this:
How pathetic and demeaning to the Eisenhower family and to the President.
What’s next? A statue of Reagan in a baby cradle saying a few coos and gurgles that presage his future great oratorical skills?
They sure didn’t put a statue of MLK as a boy.
Conservatives should not stand for this crap.
Really difficult to judge based on the pictures with the article. Honestly, the building design looks very classy and extremely restrained for Frank Gehry. As for he country bumpkin statue, can’t judge something I can’t see, but I can at least say that he did start out as a boy from Kansas and was not always the a general or president. If the boy from Kansas was the only image of Eisenhower in the memorial I’d agree. But at this point I don’t see the problem.
(But then I grew up in Hannibal, Mo with statues of Tom and Huck everywhere. So that kind of image doesn’t offend me.)
What kind of PC crapola is that? Better idea, a depiction of Eisenhower standing on that English airfield on the night of June 5, 1944 surrounded by his American paratroopers.
The insignia for General of the Army, as created in 1944, consisted of five stars in a pentagonal pattern, with points touching. The five officers who have held the 1944 version of General of the Army are:
George Marshall 16 December 1944
Douglas MacArthur 18 December 1944
Dwight D. Eisenhower 20 December 1944
Henry H. Arnold 21 December 1944
Omar Bradley 22 September 1950
There have been no “Generals of The Army” since General Bradley. (There have been three equivalent Naval officers, “Fleet Admirals”).
Ike was one of the good ones.
The most under-appreciated POTUS in history.
To not show show him as a five-star general officer in US military (less than ten ever)...winner of WWII... in full uniform is a disgrace.
Along with Washington and Grant I can't think of another to achieve as highly.
Just out of interest, since this was FDR handing out stars like they were so many post offices, how many Flag Officers besides Ernest King got a fifth star?
Did Nimitz get one?
Best,
Chris
...and close by, have a copy of his letter that was never needed accepting full responsibility for the failure of the Normandy landings. It might be instructive for, o, say those who seem to have difficulty accepting responsibility for their actions
I TOTALLY agree. This borders on being a joke!
They should get rid of the person designing this debacle and contract someone else!
I see that Marshall got his fifth star two days before MacArthur. I bet that drove Mac nuts. ;-D
“appreciates the comments provided by the Eisenhower family.”
Governmentspeak,,, for “screw you”
Although Eisenhower was a great General in WWII his true legacy is when he led our nation in the most dangerous of times after WWII. In those times the United States and the USSR were on a hair trigger of intercontinetal thermonuclear war.
Nothing happened during his presidency. That is his legacy. Eishenhower loathed and despised war. Eisenhower did understand what war is and what is today. Unfortunately the later occupents of his legacy did not understand it or rejected it. Nixon, JFK, Bush 1 and Bush 2 did understand this.
President Carter did not understand because he was and is a fool. President Obama is neither a fool nor a patriot.
Hap Arnold 5 star for 2 different branches.
William Leahy
Ernest King
Chester Nimitz
William Halsey
David was king of the Israelites but Michaelangelo got away with portraying him as a naked dude
If I remember correctly, Ike was America’s first 5-Star General.
I stand corrected. See post above. Still love the idea of a 5-star General, though.
The Navy’s Fleet Admirals were:
William Daniel Leahy
Ernest Joseph King
Chester William Nimitz
William Frederick Halsey, Jr.
(This information is extracted from the Naval Historical Foundation’s booklet Fleet Admirals, U.S. Navy.)
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq36-1.htm
Here’s a website dedicated to opposing the statue and the memorial, for the reasons they list... here:
http://www.eisenhowermemorial.net/national-civic-art-society-report-frank-gehrys-eisenhower-memorial
This 1963 photo from the American military cemetery in Colleville-sur-Mer, Normandy, amply underscores the truth of that...
Poignant, to say the least.
Plus MLK’s family was paid.
This design minimizes Eisenhower’s accomplishments.
Thanks for the link -
Good gravy, it’s deplorable - and in white fiberglass!
And for an astronomical amount of money. Who does he know?
Time for these memorials, paid for by US, be in contest form. Let all artists who want submit a design, pick 4-6 best ones and then let the public, whose money pays for it, pick the winner.
Let’s support Ike and his family and comment on the site AGAINST this insult.
This is little better than Winston Churchill being eliminated from school book in the UK - kids there are growing up today not even knowing he existed.
Seems like this is just dismissing what Ike did - People, especially young people, will pass by with nary a thought as to who it is and what he did - and how we should all be thankful we aren’t speaking German today.
And another great man is wiped from history.
Wrong , Marshall was the first in ww2 .
Yes! I have that photo but can’t post it now - on my phone. Addressing the Screaming Eagles. That’s the one!
You know, Hercules performed his first feat in the cradle. He strangled two snakes, one in each hand, that a jealous Hera had sent to kill Hercules and his brother. Maybe they could use that.
Honestly, I think you're a shill.
And a pretty insidious one at that.
By all means then, let’s have a naked Ike.
Is that an example of Texas logic, Gal logic, or is it uniquely yours?
Gehry is known for his statues of naked children.
I wouldn’t mind if the boy was in white limestone, and he was gazing at a bronze statue of Pres. Eisenhower in the distance.
A shill? I love it. Been around this forum since 1998 just so I could shill for Frank Gehry. (check my about page if you don’t believe me.) You caught me.
I thought I was just one guy with an opinion, but apparently you don’t think I am entitled to believe that a memorial that celebrates the way a kid from a small Kansas town can rise to the extraordinary level of achievement that Ike managed is an honor to both the man’s memory and to the country he lived in. Check out the murals. The rest of his achievements are indeed celebrated.
And with all due respect to his family, I don’t think the design dishonors Ike. But hey, maybe I am not allowed to have an opinion that differs from yours. Maybe in the new regime you can be put in charge of opinion control.
(Nice scotch, Talisker, but I prefer Lagavulin, just my opinion though.)
You're certainly entitled to think it, and to express it, but you're dead wrong. The thing is transparent.
I've been wrong before, and I will be wrong again. But I am going to think for myself. PC from the right is just as wrong as PC from the left.
This is a canard. Political Correctness is a uniquely leftist phenomenon. The idea of right wing PC is kneejerk tu quoque.
ROFL. I'll see your u quoque and raise you an ignoratio elenchi.
Suggesting that only the left can be PC is like them saying that a white man can be racist. Please. Unthinking ideology blinds wherever it reigns. Left or right.
Political Correctness has nothing to do with unthinking ideology, and unthinking ideology has nothing to do with the objections to this proposed Ike memorial.
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