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Despite weak economy, crime in Los Angeles County still declines (safest in decades)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 1/5/2012 | By Joel Rubin

Posted on 02/07/2012 8:14:44 PM PST by dragnet2

There were thousands fewer crimes reported in 2011 than 2010 in areas the LAPD and Sheriff's Department patrol. The trend puzzles some but reinforces a common police view that other factors are at play.

Even since the economy began stalling several years ago, there have been dire warnings that crime would rise.

But in Southern California, crime continues its long decline despite the weak economy.... yet streets in many parts of the region were the safest they've been in decades.

The trend continues to puzzle some criminologists

Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck said crime rates are determined largely by how well police do their job and the "informal social standards" set by communities — that is, what kind of behavior people are willing to tolerate from others.

"The driving forces on crime," Beck said, are " 'What is the likelihood the police will catch you?' and, 'What would your mother or neighbor think if they knew what you were doing?'"

A spokesman for Sheriff Lee Baca took a similar stand. "Communities seem to be banding together to fight crime," Steve Whitmore said. "We can't take the complete credit."

The city, along with much of the rest of L.A. County, finished the year with thousands fewer serious crimes than in 2010..

Homicides, finished the year nearly even with the historically low rate

Throughout the rest of L.A. County, — a 12% decline from the previous year

The Sheriff's Department, also posted declines in a preliminary count through November. Serious violent crimes were down 13.5%, and property-related offenses dropped about 2%.

To the contrary, the region has watched as a downward trend in crime that began nearly a decade ago has continued largely unabated..This will be the ninth consecutive year of falling crime in Los Angeles.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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To: dragnet2

Wait a minuter... did I not hear that California had to start releasing prisoners because they are running out of money?

Furthermore, I’ve heard the state is in great financial trouble and may run out at the end of March?


21 posted on 02/07/2012 9:07:54 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Vince Ferrer

CA’s three strikes law keeps a lot of career criminals in prison. One of the few good laws we have.


22 posted on 02/07/2012 9:09:56 PM PST by chrisinoc
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To: Sprite518

Yeah, most of which were non-violent, and probably shouldn’t have been in the joint at tax payer expense in the first place. Oh, and CA has had big financial issues for years now. Nothing new.


23 posted on 02/07/2012 9:11:23 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: chrisinoc
CA’s three strikes law keeps a lot of career criminals in prison.

And causes many who with to continue those types or careers, to leave the state.

What most do not know, is CA has some of the hashes criminal penalties in the U.S.

24 posted on 02/07/2012 9:13:30 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: chrisinoc

ER...And causes many who WISH to continue those types or careers, to leave the state as they know the consequences of having two strikes.


25 posted on 02/07/2012 9:15:13 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Sprite518

The worst of the prisoners who might have been released from prisons are being moved to available county jails. Unfortunately some of the supposed nonviolent prisoners will be paroled.

The Democratic Controller stated CA will run out money by March. At least he’s honest.


26 posted on 02/07/2012 9:16:32 PM PST by chrisinoc
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To: dragnet2

Anybody who still has anything worth stealing has fled the state.


27 posted on 02/07/2012 9:19:36 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Right Lancey...Brilliant!


28 posted on 02/07/2012 9:22:13 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: floridavoter2
This is definitely good. Nice to hear good news out of California for once.

Yep...But if ya read some of the comments, it seems some just can't stand it....lol

29 posted on 02/07/2012 9:23:49 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

It’s not that some can’t stand it.

Some just find it hard to believe when the numbers come from liberals.

It’s not like the Left doesn’t lie about things if they think it is to their advantage.

With crime down, why not cut the budget for LEO?


30 posted on 02/07/2012 9:33:34 PM PST by digger48
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To: dragnet2

I’m sure the fact that the OC sheriff is one of the most accomodating to citizens who apply for CCW permits has nothing to do with it...


31 posted on 02/07/2012 9:35:13 PM PST by piytar (Rebellion is here! Free Republic is on the front line! NEVER SURRENDER!)
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To: digger48

City/state budgets are being cut. The tax payers are broke. They have no choice.


32 posted on 02/07/2012 9:36:15 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I call b.s., as well.

Nobody even reports “everyday” crime like having your catalytic converter stolen off your SUV. Because the LAPD won’t come out and take a report. You have to go to the station.

Our car was stolen in front of our house, and we had to go to the station to report it.

Anecdotal evidence — just what’s going on around my neighborhood — burglaries and such — says crime is way, way up.


33 posted on 02/07/2012 9:38:33 PM PST by Blue Ink
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To: dragnet2

Heh...
You know after all these years I just like pulling your chain.

When I was in the Marines I toured the Mojave twice for several weeks, and also spent a couple weeks high in the Sierra Nevadas (Mountain Warfare Training Center) up north. I said then that California was the most beautiful place I ever saw. Still is.

That won’t stop me from pulling your chain, though.

FRegards,
LH


34 posted on 02/07/2012 9:41:56 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Blue Ink
I call b.s., as well. Nobody even reports “everyday” crime like having your catalytic converter stolen off your SUV. You have to go to the station.

Sure they do. You insurance demands it, or you get no claim.

Our car was stolen in front of our house, and we had to go to the station to report it.

You want to collect an insurance claim? Most people do, and they report it weather they go to the station or have someone respond. It's not complex.

35 posted on 02/07/2012 9:48:40 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Lancey Howard
I said then that California was the most beautiful place I ever saw. Still is.

Yeah, and with crime dropping for the past 10 years, it makes it even better.

36 posted on 02/07/2012 9:53:33 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

And what if you don’t have insurance?


37 posted on 02/07/2012 10:04:13 PM PST by JerseyanExile
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To: dragnet2
For insurance purposes a vehicle theft has to be reported. Fresno City and Fresno County are having a huge headache regarding auto thieves.

Top 5 Auto Thief Released from Jail Again

38 posted on 02/08/2012 1:48:47 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: dragnet2

Dragnet2, I’m assuming you are a cop in Los Angeles

From March 8, 2006 in the Los Angeles Daily News
8,325 hit-and-runs in the San Fernando Valley

We don’t get statistics like that every year, so I keep this one.

Today, Tampa was closed off with police tape. This is an everyday occurrence and we will never know why because it is so common. This is a major street.

I had a friend, Holly, may she rest in peace. Another car in the left turn lane going the same way as Holly, decided to turn right instead.

Not a violent crime.

If you live in the Los Angeles area, keep your camera ready because license plates don’t mean a thing. We had a televised car pursuit tonight because the license plate didn’t match the car.

I live in the middle of the block, yet my tree still shows the scars of an illegal driver.

My wife and I have found it amusing to point out how many block walls and fences of corner homes have been blown out by drunk drivers. We notice that they put up retaining walls and concrete filled 6 inch pipe.

My neighbor knocked on my door and told me my truck was hit. It was pushed up into the next door neighbors yard. But nobody saw a thing.

Some guy was lying in a pool of blood across the street. He was hit by a car and all my Mexican neighbors saw it but nobody reported it until I walked out and called 911.

I’m yelling at some ahole parked in the middle of the street to move his damn truck. Honking my horn, yelling at his girlfriend still in his truck and shouting at the guy, he gets in his truck and leaves.

He was talking to some girl in a car parked at the curb. As I drive by I notice she is distressed. I ask her if she is ok, she says that some guy in a road rage chased her through the entire valley and had his knife out and was ready to stab her.

A drunk knocks over my canvas sun screen. Turns out he was having some kind of shock due to low blood sugar. I call 911 and they come over. They can’t do a thing and tell my wife to give him a sugary drink.

A friend of mine has a scar at the base of his neck. It is from a bullet hole fired in retaliation to his being too forceful in a soccer game. It is also a symbol of honor.

My neighbor, an American, was testifying as a witness to a commercial theft. Every time there was a recess and he went into the hallway, the thief’s gangbanger friends would sit next to him trying to intimidate him.

I took photographs of kids spraying graffiti, about 13 years old. They told me I didn’t know who I was dealing with. So, I take the photographs to the police and that night my truck window is broken out and a Gotti DVD is lying next to it.

I’ve got to admit, there are some very good cops out there. The first cop that came to my house had read the report, contacted me and said he would take care of it. It has probably been 3 years now and those punks have never shown up again.

This is why nobody in my neighborhood ever reports anything, they are living in fear, not of the police but of the gang bangers.

How much harder is it going to be for us to deal with the cartels than we deal with gangbangers?

The only purpose of Special Order 40 was to get the illegal aliens to report crimes.

It hasn’t worked.

I’m a simple guy, I don’t work anymore, there are no jobs. I just sit at my bar in the front yard and watch the word go by. And this is what I see.

There is low income housing going up just 1 block away. More Mexicans, my house goes up for sale in March.


39 posted on 02/08/2012 2:55:48 AM PST by Haddit
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To: Haddit

Poor economy means not enough money to buy bullets, hence crime is down. Who would have thunk?


40 posted on 02/08/2012 4:09:58 AM PST by DaveA37
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