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Marines 'assault' US beaches in amphibious drill(with Iran in mind? OP Bold Alligator)
AFP ^ | 02/07/12 | Paul Richards

Posted on 02/07/2012 9:52:42 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Marines 'assault' US beaches in amphibious drill

By Paul Richards (AFP) – 1 day ago

CAMP LEJEUNE, North Carolina — With beach landings, 25 naval ships and an air assault, the United States and eight other countries are staging a major amphibious exercise on the US East Coast this week, fighting a fictional enemy that bears more than a passing resemblance to Iran.

After a decade dominated by ground wars against insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan, the drill dubbed Bold Alligator is "the largest amphibious exercise conducted by the fleet in the last 10 years," said Admiral John Harvey, head of US Fleet Forces Command.

About 20,000 US forces, plus hundreds of British, Dutch and French troops as well as liaison officers from Italy, Spain, New Zealand and Australia are taking part in the exercise along the Atlantic coast off Virginia and North Carolina.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: boldalligator; iran; persiangulf

1 posted on 02/07/2012 9:52:50 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AdmSmith; nuconvert

P!


2 posted on 02/07/2012 9:53:26 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Hope the beach was free of civilians, otherwise the beach would be covered in fear induced human feceses.


3 posted on 02/07/2012 9:59:26 PM PST by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

We had better be ready.
Anyone that does not see a war in Iran happening in the next 1-3 years has their head buried deep were it should not be!


4 posted on 02/07/2012 10:07:22 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign iup for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

I hope I am wrong but I feel that O’Dumbass will start it to get re-elected. He will do it half a$$ like in Afghanistan and get alot of our friends and family killed for nothing. He is such a fraud he will do it so it does not hurt his Muslim buddies. This guy is just plan evil.


5 posted on 02/07/2012 10:11:25 PM PST by jimpick
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To: jimpick
Uh, guys? Does anyone see a possible more ominous side to this?
Why not somewhere else? As a coach told us years ago, NO practice is just practice and execute like it was real, because it could be.
6 posted on 02/07/2012 10:39:23 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: JSteff

More or less what I was thinking too.


7 posted on 02/07/2012 10:41:01 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: JSteff

What ya thinking? Isreal? Tell us?


8 posted on 02/07/2012 10:59:05 PM PST by crazydad
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To: JSteff

The military has always had contingency plans. No way the Marines or army will be involved in a land war in Iran. We don’t have the manpower.

On the other hand....I can see 0bama sacrificing a few American Divisions.


9 posted on 02/07/2012 10:59:55 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus
No my thought is it was an attack on the us but not for training on any other country but the U.S...... this is practice for attacking us. Expect to see more "exercises" on our soil.
As I noted, a coach I had years ago said that NO practice, is just a practice against a made up enemy, always consider it real until the coach or ref says it is not.
10 posted on 02/07/2012 11:15:20 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: JSteff

When my husband was a pilot in the Navy, these exercises were practice for their deployments.

Why do you think this one isn’t?


11 posted on 02/08/2012 12:07:27 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I once exercised a Soviet invasion of Louisiana.

I always suspected it was to get the Popeyes chicken recipe.


12 posted on 02/08/2012 2:11:32 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obama's War on Prosperity is killing me)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Not unusual by any means. All our services practice for their expected role in war.


13 posted on 02/08/2012 4:02:18 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: JSteff

“this is practice for attacking us. “

Interesting. An amphibious assault on the Republic of Texas?


14 posted on 02/08/2012 4:48:05 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: JSteff
As I noted, a coach I had years ago said that NO practice, is just a practice against a made up enemy, always consider it real until the coach or ref says it is not.

I'm not sure I understand your point here. Wouldn't the coach/ref be their commanders? And they are obviously saying it's practice.

Also, this coach, did you not practice against your own team? That's making up an enemy. When I played bball in HS I was in a few practices were I was told to be a certain player from another team.

So to be honest, that quote makes no sense whatsoever. Where is our military supposed to practice?

15 posted on 02/08/2012 4:58:26 AM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Possible alternative reason: Given Panetta’s budget cuts, the Marines need to justify that beach front property.


16 posted on 02/08/2012 5:02:06 AM PST by Makana
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Possible alternative reason: Given Panetta’s budget cuts, the Marines need to justify that beach front property.


17 posted on 02/08/2012 5:02:06 AM PST by Makana
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To: JSteff
I wouldn't read too much into it.

We were performing desert warfare exercises regularly back in the mid 70’s. As you know, we didn't get our boots sandy until 20 years later.

18 posted on 02/08/2012 5:05:18 AM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

We do battle drills all the time. Sometimes on a large scale.

You have to train somewhere and train correctly.

This weekend, my unit will be practicing raids on an actual airport. Doesn’t mean we’re taking over LAX or DFW any time soon.


19 posted on 02/08/2012 5:28:10 AM PST by And2TheRepublic (People like freedom of speech, but only when it's sweet to their ears.)
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To: And2TheRepublic

I wonder, do people think we would never practice using all those new San Antonio-class LPDs we just built?


20 posted on 02/08/2012 5:40:43 AM PST by ngat
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The simulators, and we have a lot of them, serve to practice in a virtual environment. BUT sometimes, you gotta get the treads dirty to see if it all works in the real world.


21 posted on 02/08/2012 5:41:29 AM PST by Wizdum (Wisdom is what you gain when things go wrong.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The USMC corps can invade the smaller islands in the Persian Gulf and use them as a jumping off point to the mainland.


22 posted on 02/08/2012 6:15:37 AM PST by U-238
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Persian Gulf is home to many islands, mostly small, distributed in the gulf’s entire geographic area and administered by the neighbouring nations. Most islands are sparsely populated, with some being barren, and some utilized for communication, military, or as ship docks. Some of the islands in the Persian Gulf are artificialy constructed islands.


23 posted on 02/08/2012 6:15:52 AM PST by U-238
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To: JSteff
Uh, guys? Does anyone see a possible more ominous side to this?
After returning from VN in 1968, I was stationed at Lejeune and practiced beach landings at least twice during the ensuing year.
The military has to be ready for all contingencies at all times. This operation is SOP has been repeated for decades.
24 posted on 02/08/2012 6:17:12 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’m not familiar with this particular amphibious exercise but I can tell you that during my Marine Corps career I took part in many amphibious landing exercises. In this country as well as other countries. This is SOP.

The only thing noteworthy is the fact that since the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, the Marine Corps has gotten away from it’s amphibious roots and not been doing a lot of these. In Commandant Conway’s 2008 or 2009 Marine Corps Birthday message he had mentioned about how the Marine Corps needs to get back to it’s Naval traditions and amphibious roots. My guess is that this is part of that mission. I wouldn’t read too much into this.


25 posted on 02/08/2012 6:51:25 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: JSteff
Why not somewhere else?

You apparently haven't spent much time near Camp Lejeune or Cherry Point. By the way, Bold Alligator had its genesis back in 2008.

26 posted on 02/08/2012 8:20:04 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: R. Scott

Indeed.

Practice is practice, and the Marines have to practice somewhere. The Air Force has airspace in Navada for practice A/A and A/G air campaigns and no one seems to think the Air Force is practicing for an attack against the US.

And this whole amphibious landing thing. . .the Marines have to practice somewhere and we have many places along the US coast that are open and able to handle this activity. I took part in such a rehearsal back in the late 80’s in North Carolina.

Oh, and this Iranian thing. . .no serious military planner considers an amphibious assault under fire as we don’t need to do that for an assault against Iran. We have other ways to secure landing zones (i.e., ports). We don’t have to do the whole yee-haw storm the beaches kind of thing. And by the way, times two, we did practice amphibious assault landing in Saudi during the build-up for Desert Storm. The media reported and people got all excited saying things like, “Wow, just look at the Marines getting ready to take the beaches in Kuwait.”

The media reported, Saddam listened and the American people got all excited. . .but there NEVER was a plan to do an amphibious assault! However, the psy-op was successful in that Saddam tied down many divisions on the Kuwait beaches to defend against an invasion that was never going to happen.

But wait. . .I saw the Navy off the coast of southern California and they were practicing fleet maneuvers. . .must be getting ready to shell the US. . .Sheesh. . .people need to get a grip.


27 posted on 02/08/2012 9:26:59 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

I worked a number of similar exercises both in Virginia and Hawaii. Yep, not uncommon at all.


28 posted on 02/09/2012 4:19:26 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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