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Coulter Care - Schooling Ann Coulter on the individual mandate
The American Spectator ^ | February 8, 2012 | Peter Ferrara

Posted on 02/08/2012 5:22:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Sorry, Ann. I have adored you as a commentator, as you know, and appreciate your kind words about me in the past. But in discussing the individual mandate in your piece last week, "Three Cheers for RomneyCare," you honestly don't know what you are talking about. In the process, you are transgressing on my own work and past policy achievements, and grossly undermining the policy and political case against Obamacare. Read on, and I will explain in full.

It was me, working for and with conservative health policy guru John Goodman, who first rang the alarm bell for conservatives over the individual mandate in the early 1990s. As I explained recently in this space, it was we who led the fight to kill the Heritage Foundation health bill at that time.

That bill had been introduced by Sen. Don Nickles (R-OK) because he thought it was the conservative alternative to HillaryCare. Leaving Heritage over the matter and working for Goodman's National Center for Policy Analysis, I went through the bill line by line and wrote up all the conservative objections, which primarily stemmed from the individual mandate. I then got my critique signed by 37 major conservative leaders.

It was the only time you could find Phyllis Schlafly and Ed Crane signing on to the same document. Others who signed included Paul Weyrich, David Keene, and Grover Norquist. It was a Who's Who of conservative leaders.

When I delivered the document to Nickles' office, he had the good sense to pull the bill. Stuart Butler was furious with me, and it has ruined our previously close friendship to this day. I received awards for this work from the American Conservative Union and the Eagle Forum. That is because the Heritage health plan with its individual mandate was detested throughout...

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: conservatism; coulter4deathcare; coulter4romneycare; coulterlovesmitt; coulternothealthcare; gopprimary; healthcare; hormonesgonemad; mandates; romney4deathcare; romney4obamacare; romneybringsdeath
Great column and well worth a full read.

Ferrara takes Coulter on while demonstrating Romney's propensity to veer left when he gets into trouble.

1 posted on 02/08/2012 5:22:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All

October 11, 2011 - Peter Ferrara

“Newt’s New Contract”

[snip]

[Newt] Gingrich features first in his Contract the priority to “Repeal Obamacare and pass a replacement that saves lives and money by empowering patients and doctors, not bureaucrats and politicians.” Gingrich explains, “The Obamacare law is unconstitutional, unaffordable, unworkable, and stunningly unfair. It’s so-called ‘individual mandate’ is blatantly unconstitutional and an unprecedented expansion of federal power.”

Gingrich displays profound insight into why the individual and employer mandates are so unworkable, writing in the Contract:

Their intractable problem is this: once you have a mandate, the government has to specify exactly what coverage must be included in insurance for it to qualify. This introduces political considerations into determining these minimum standards, guaranteeing that nothing desired by the special interests will be left out. And once the government mandates such expensive insurance, the government becomes responsible for its costs. It has to adopt expensive subsidies to help people pay for the expensive plans that it is requiring. The resulting cost to the taxpayer and strain on the budget leads the government to try and control healthcare costs by limiting healthcare services. The inevitable result is rationing by a nameless, faceless, unaccountable board of government bureaucrats.

These intractable problems arise whether the mandates are imposed by the federal government or a state government. In fact, exactly these disastrous results are playing out under Romneycare in Massachusetts.

Repeal of Obamacare cuts future spending and taxes by trillions. It also would result in further dramatic reductions in regulatory burdens and costs. As Gingrich’s Contract notes, “The Obamacare law also creates one thousand, nine hundred and sixty eight separate grants of power to bureaucrats, most of them to the Secretary of Health and Human Services and her bureaucracy. It creates 159 new boards, agencies and other government entities to administer health decisions that should be up to the individual in consultation with their doctor.”

Gingrich also displays original insight into the policies that should replace Obamacare:

I will advocate for specific replacement health policies that will create a free market framework for health care, provide affordable, portable, and reliable healthcare coverage, and establish a health care safety net focused on those in need. This system will assure health care for all with no individual mandate or employer mandate of any kind. This alternative to Obamacare begins with patient power and localism and the many common sense ideas developed over the past eight years at the Center for Health Transformation.

These policies adopt the Patient Power framework advocated by conservative health policy guru John Goodman at NCPA in Dallas. That is why Gingrich’s reforms include extending

Health Savings Accounts throughout the entire health care system. Everyone on Medicare should be free to choose an HSA as part of their coverage if they want it. Everyone on Medicaid should be free to choose an HSA for part of his or her coverage. All workers should be free to use their health insurance tax credit or deduction to choose an HSA in place of their employer-provided health insurance if they desire.

The very first paper on Health Savings Accounts, in fact, was co-authored by John Goodman and myself in 1981. Gingrich was a leader in Congress providing for the initial adoption of HSAs in federal law. [snip]

http://townhall.com/columnists/peterferrara/2011/10/11/newt%E2%80%99s_new_contract/page/full/


2 posted on 02/08/2012 5:30:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Impeach Ann Coulter.


3 posted on 02/08/2012 5:35:15 AM PST by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"...and grossly undermining the policy and political case against Obamacare..."

that's the money shot right there, Ann. You helped Obamacare with your column defending Romneycare.

4 posted on 02/08/2012 5:35:15 AM PST by Mr. K (Were the Soviet-Era propogandists as gleefully willing as our Lame-stream Media?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

et tu Ann

we hardly knew ye.

sad really


5 posted on 02/08/2012 5:38:03 AM PST by Vaquero
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"I bet you $10,000 that my lovesick and bought
maid, here, absolutely supports my mandated RomneyCARE AND deathpanels,
and especially the fact that Romneycare cost the Bay State 18,313 jobs;
drove up total health insurance costs in Massachusetts by $4.311 billion;
collapsed disposable income per person by $376; and
even reduced investment in Massachusetts by $25.06 million
.
My robotic tart-twit even supports my coverup of the BIG DIG
AND my backstabbing of GOP candidates through surrogates,
(heck, the wench even jumps right in to attack them … for me!!!!).
She especially LOVES my personal imposition of gay marriage by
my personal order under improper Executive Authority,
my support of TARP, and Sharia and other antiConstitutional agendae,
and my bribing of Officials with a promise of future positions.
She loves my Team’s abuse of women GOP candidates … and their helpless children,
and even my making money from the 911 Victory Mosque.
These are truly things, like our abuse of dogs,
that make this mindless vessel and me what
we are calling .... 'conservative'."

6 posted on 02/08/2012 5:39:51 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ann committed career suicide!
She will disappear after this election cycle .


7 posted on 02/08/2012 5:41:45 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Diogenesis

1, 2, 6...BUMP, BUMP, BUMP!

Hillarycare-Romneycare-Obamacare-TOTALITARIANCARE.


8 posted on 02/08/2012 5:44:09 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Excellent. Thanx for posting.


9 posted on 02/08/2012 5:45:07 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Expel the Occupy White House squatters !!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Doesn’t it make sense that the Obamacare rule that Catholic hospitals must provide contraceptive services is a logical, direct extension of the philosophy of the Individual Mandate?

Is they can make you purchase health insurance there’s no limit to what they can make you do. This is just the beginning....


10 posted on 02/08/2012 5:46:38 AM PST by Helotes
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hope Ann Cultist refilled her Prozac prescription.

Pray for America


11 posted on 02/08/2012 5:49:22 AM PST by bray (More Batting Practice for the Bambino)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Absolutely correct - Ferrara takes Ann to school on this one, and really exposes Romney in the conclusion to the piece. A very thoughtful and insightful article, and also one that’s easy to read.

I’ve always respected and admired AC, but with her behavior over the last few months, she’s starting to look like a candidate for an exorcism. Hopefully if the electorate in the remaining primaries succeeds in dumping Romney, that will be enough to bring her back to her senses.


12 posted on 02/08/2012 5:54:23 AM PST by Stosh
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Inevitably, Romney will pull the Republican Party to the left and crack up the Reagan coalition which has dominated the party since 1980.

A minor quibble. The "Reagan coalition" has been dead for some time now.

That's how we ended up with bobdole and McQueeg as presidential candidates.

13 posted on 02/08/2012 5:56:45 AM PST by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Marc Levin)
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To: Helotes
Doesn’t it make sense that the Obamacare rule that Catholic hospitals must provide contraceptive services is a logical, direct extension of the philosophy of the Individual Mandate?

It's worse than that. It's the right of Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius (or any sec of HHS) to dictate guidelines (this was one of them) -- power provided to her by ObamaCare.

Is they can make you purchase health insurance there’s no limit to what they can make you do. This is just the beginning....

Indeed it is.

14 posted on 02/08/2012 5:58:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Helotes; Cincinatus' Wife

Yes, and there is also a mandate on the health insurers...they must offer policies under the direction of HHS. They are told all the particulars of what they must offer.

I would like to know what power the constitution gives them to mandate what private businesses offer their customers, just as well as wanting to know what power they claim to mandate customer purchases.

If this is supposedly under the Interstate Commerce Clause, then our country was founded on something the Founders knew not, even though they did the founding.

I have a word for what is being done in the name of Obamacare:

FASCISM.


15 posted on 02/08/2012 5:58:31 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: ncalburt; Cincinatus' Wife

was checking the CPAC schedule the other day. I’m wondering if some, especially FReepers, won’t bother to attend any events in which Ann participates. Here are the events I found in which Ann will be participating:

Thurs - 11 a.m.: Fire From the Heartland: The Awakening of the Conservative Woman – CPAC Theater
Starring: The Honorable Michele Bachmann (R-MN), Ann Coulter, and an all-star cast.
Live introduction by Director Stephen Bannon and cast member Sonnie Johnson

Fri - 11:50 a.m.: Ann Coulter, Best-Selling Author, Legal Correspondent for Human Events – Marriott Ballroom

Fri - 12:30: Demonic: How the Liberal Mob is Endangering America – Conservative Book Nook
Book signing with Author Ann Coulter
Open to all CPAC attendees in Exhibit Hall B

Romney’s speech is Fri at 12:55 - looks like Ann may be signing books and miss the Mittster’s speach.


16 posted on 02/08/2012 6:00:06 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

17 posted on 02/08/2012 6:02:12 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Coulter won’t get educated as long as she lacks the propensity to keep her mouth shut and learn.


18 posted on 02/08/2012 6:04:14 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: txrangerette
Bump!

July 18, 2011: Gov. Rick Perry signs health care reform bill into law; Texas fourth state to pass health care compacts bill

"With the signature of Gov. Rick Perry today, Texas has joined three other states stating their intention to enter into a health care compact.

The compact, which would challenge the authority of the federal government to dictate the terms of the federally and state funded Medicaid program, was part of a wide-ranging health care reform bill, Senate Bill 7, passed by the Texas Legislature in its recently concluded special session.

Georgia, Oklahoma and Missouri have already signed onto the compacts movement, with Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon signing a bill into law on Thursday.

The law establishes Texas, along with the other three states, as pioneers in an uncharted use of Article 1, Section 10 of the Constitution which allows states to enter into agreements that, with the approval of Congress, cannot be abridged by the federal government. There are more than 200 state compacts currently in effect, nearly all of them related to commerce.”…..

__________

August 8, 2011: Kansas returns health insurance exchange grant WASHINGTON, Aug 9 (Reuters) - Kansas became on Tuesday the second U.S. state to return a large federal grant meant to help it create a prototype health insurance exchange as part of the Obama administration's healthcare overhaul.

Republican Governor Sam Brownback said the state would give back the $31.5 million it received from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to become an early leader, along with six other states, in establishing health insurance exchanges that other local government could use as a model.

Exchanges are meant to provide an open marketplace of competing insurance plans that allow uninsured people and small businesses to band together to negotiate cheaper rates.

Kansas's move brings the total amount of the returned exchange-related federal grants to almost $90 million as Republican governors seek to block implementation of the healthcare law supported largely by Democratic lawmakers.

Experts warn that many states are falling far behind schedule for a smooth and timely roll-out of the reform.

States are facing a deadline of Jan. 1, 2013, to submit detailed plans for their exchanges or see HHS come in and build one itself. Returning grants increases the likelihood that HHS would have to do the work.

"It could come around to hurt the state in the long run," said Sabrina Corlette, a research professor at the nonpartisan Health Policy Institute at Georgetown University.

"The more states that say: 'Forget it, let's have the Feds run it,' the more likely the (federal government) is going to have a one-size-fits-all solution. They're not going to be able to customize it for 30 states."

In April, Oklahoma returned its $54.6 million early innovator grant, the largest of the batch of seven issued in total. Kansas followed suit on Tuesday after months of internal wrangling between Insurance Commissioner Sandy Praeger and the conservative governor and legislature.

"Every state should be preparing for fewer federal resources, not more," Governor Brownback said in a statement. "To deal with that reality, Kansas needs to maintain maximum flexibility. That requires freeing Kansas from the strings attached to the Early Innovator Grant."…………….

_________________

MEANWHILE MITT ROMNEY is pushing these health care exchanges

July 16, 2011: Romney Adviser Backs Obama Health Exchanges

SALT LAKE CITY — Former Utah Gov. Mike Leavitt, a top supporter and adviser of Republican White House hopeful Mitt Romney, strenuously backed the core piece of President Barack Obama’s health-care law and urged the states to move forward together in adopting health insurance exchanges.

Speaking to a bipartisan group of governors at the National Governors Association, the former Republican governor who served as secretary of health and human services in the Bush administration, called the exchanges where individuals and small businesses can purchase health plans “a very practical solution to a problem that needs to be solved.” He warned governors who are reluctant to move forward with their state-level exchanges that their intransigence will only empower federal regulators.

And he said the health care law that passed is a compromise that gives the states the flexibility they need.

“This is a profoundly important time for the states,” said Mr. Leavitt. “States need to lead.”

The comments came at a time when every major Republican presidential candidate has pledged to repeal the Affordable Care Act, the president’s health care law. For former Massachusetts Gov. Romney, the issue is extra sensitive: the health care plan he secured for Massachusetts included an exchange almost identical to the federal law. He has tried to tightrope through the issue, blasting the federal law as he defends his own.

The federal law gives the states until January 2014 to set up their own exchanges, with federal oversight. If they fail to do so, their citizens will get access to a federal exchange.

But some Republican governors have been reluctant. They oppose the federal law and say they hope it will be repealed by a Republican president in 2013.

19 posted on 02/08/2012 6:08:57 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: txrangerette

It makes me want to cry to see this tyranny brought upon us


20 posted on 02/08/2012 6:22:16 AM PST by Helotes
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To: Helotes

Exactly. But strangely enough Muslims do not have to purchase health care because it’s against their religion. I read an article yesterday that said Muslim owned businesses and individuals get a pass because their religion feels it’s similar to gambling to purchase an insurance policy.

Against both religions but only 1 religion gets a pass.


21 posted on 02/08/2012 6:22:22 AM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Helotes

Amen to that.


22 posted on 02/08/2012 6:28:01 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is an excellent article. Thank you for posting it. It’s sad to see what Ann has become. I hope she snaps out of it.


23 posted on 02/08/2012 6:29:01 AM PST by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: Stosh

Good thing is that Ann is probably reading every thread about her and every article. She’s not budging and will of course poo poo Santorum’s beauty pageant wins.

She’s sickening and along with Drudge the major sacrifices of these primaries. I think the discust for her is long standing now.

The negative things she’s said about Sarah, Newt etc will not be forgotton.


24 posted on 02/08/2012 6:35:36 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sadly to say, Ann Coulter is now a zero. I’ll neither buy her books (as I have) nor read her weekly column.

She’s sold out to the RINOs.

Bye Bye, Ann


25 posted on 02/08/2012 6:36:29 AM PST by laweeks
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The states created the Federal Government.

It was to be a servant of the states for doing some things the states couldn’t do individually.

Now the O law says the Federal Government will give you a deadline to set up a state insurance exchange or else it will come in and do it for you.

The states you mentioned are trying to circumvent that by doing something the constitution specifies...entering into compacts between states.

God bless Governor Perry and the others for doing this.

I know Brownback of Kansas, and I think the MO governor is Repubican, but if I’m not mistaken the one in OK is a Democrat...at least theirs was in recent years...but he knows where the people of OK stand on this, and it “ain’t” with Obama.

I lived in OK while going to college, and that is one CONSERVATIVE state.


26 posted on 02/08/2012 6:38:16 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Really good article and an excellent re-cap of why Romney is not the man to lead Republicans to victory. He is, was, and always will be a liberal "Rockefeller Republican"--better than Obama--but guaranteed not to inspire conservatives to turn out in the numbers needed.

In addition, his willingness to go all out negative in an attempt to destroy his opponents at any cost, is off-putting to people. Even those who will reluctantly support him against Obama will do so with about the same enthusiasm as we supported McCain.

You can't beat Democrats with Democrat-lite and that is what Establishment Republicans have attempted to do in every election since '76--with predictable results.
27 posted on 02/08/2012 6:48:36 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Rudder
Impeach Ann Coulter.

Don't have to. She's impeached herself.

Coulter's credibility is finished with those who were her biggest supporters. She's through.

28 posted on 02/08/2012 7:03:23 AM PST by Rum Tum Tugger
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A very odd turn of events indeed.  Was Ann some kind left-wing sleeper agent that just recieved her code to activation last week?  Or, more likely, she's motivated by sympathy for queers to dump her conservative creds.  I think that's what this alliance with Romney is really all about.  She's a known supporter of the homosexual agenda.  She was a keynote speaker at the GOProud convention, and Romney is a huge supporter of queers also.

Ann's afraid that DADT will be reinstated if any other candidate but Romney takes the white house.  Those poor poor misunderstood and persecuted homosexuals.  Why should the U.S. military have the right to regulate the behavior of it's members? It's just not right.. is it Ann? 

Ann has sold her conservative credentials out for the sake of buggery.

I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but I wish women didn't have the right to vote.  So many them are motivated by such mushy emotional stupid bull crap.

 

29 posted on 02/08/2012 7:05:28 AM PST by CaptainKrunch
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is an excellent article! Thanks for posting! I hope a lot of Romney-bots who are going for him because of the electability thing will read this and wise up. That is a prescription for disaster. Especially liked his line to check out Romney’s advisors for a clue as to what he’ll do when elected! Yes! They’ve been saying just the opposite of what he says he’ll do in the debates, and that, dear friends, should give us all we need to know about him to realize he is no true conservative. Excellent, excellent article!


30 posted on 02/08/2012 7:34:31 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I don’t know what happened to Ann Coulter. She was one of my favorite commentators. I have bought her books. But like Goldwater, David Brock, Gergen, and a host of other erstwhile conservatives, She has “jumped the shark” and became a CINO. Generally it has something to do with homosexuality or some other latent sin. I wish there was a test to see who is genuine and who is deceiving us. But we, as liberty-loving conservatives must go on. There may be defections in our ranks, but they were never truly with us and if they were, they left us for the greener pastures of liberalism.


31 posted on 02/08/2012 7:44:08 AM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: CaptainKrunch

CaptainKrunch, as a woman, I am not upset about the remark, but totally agree. Women vote with their feelings and eyes. They like the good-looking candidates over the intellectual or serious candidates. When asked on the street what they like about their candidate, it usually has nothing to do with substance, such as what he stands for, but how he comes across, and looks are easily confused with intelligence. I know this by asking my own friends who they are voting for, and why, over MANY years now. It is the same all the time, but for a few very conservative friends. I have often said to my good friends that a mistake was made i n allowing women to vote...unless they pass a civics (or maybe a history) exam.


32 posted on 02/08/2012 7:49:27 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: CaptainKrunch; Shery; Cincinatus' Wife

Liberalism is the disease.

Should a liberal man be allowed to vote while a conservative woman next to him in line to vote is turned away?

Both of you need to re-think this.

Should I be required to take and pass a civics course before voting...as conservative as I am...while a liberal man has no such requirement?

Think.it.all.the.way.through.


33 posted on 02/08/2012 9:24:15 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I know in the past everyone thought that Ann was so beautiful, but I’ve never seen it. Take away her long blond hair, and she’s really not so attractive.


34 posted on 02/08/2012 9:26:23 AM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I live in MA. RomneyCare cost me $1,100 last month alone in out-of-pocket health care costs for me and my family to cover a lapse in insurance from my old employer to my new one.

F*ck you, Mitt Romney.

And I'm glad people around here are finally warming up to the notion that Ann Coulter is a charlie uniform november tango.

35 posted on 02/08/2012 9:46:50 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: ncalburt

I think she will go lib. She got all the money she can from the conservatives....time to change for the almighty dollar race...Was not a fan and when she was on Red Eye a couple of weeks ago, she got eaten alive and ended up giggling a lot..it was quite annoying...


36 posted on 02/08/2012 10:15:26 AM PST by goat granny
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To: goat granny

Is it true that she is married?

That would settle the “crying game” issues.


37 posted on 02/08/2012 10:20:02 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Helotes

First you mandate CORPORATIONS have to buy then you move to individuals. Remember most corporations have just one employee. The owner.

(s)there must be a constitutional right to be employed by a catholic entity/s)


38 posted on 02/08/2012 10:22:36 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
I am not a follower of hers, you'll have to ask someone else...but I don't understand your remark..

"That would settle the “crying game” issues."

39 posted on 02/08/2012 10:33:13 AM PST by goat granny
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To: Rudder

Ann Coulter: Does anyone know if the political whore is on suicide watch after last night’s returns came in?


40 posted on 02/08/2012 1:35:30 PM PST by no dems (I'm more concerned with America's future than I am Newt's past.)
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41 posted on 02/08/2012 5:36:55 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
I live in MA. RomneyCare cost me $1,100 last month alone in out-of-pocket health care costs for me and my family to cover a lapse in insurance from my old employer to my new one.

You would have gone without insurance? Seriously?

42 posted on 02/09/2012 10:02:48 AM PST by rhombus
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To: rhombus
You would have gone without insurance? Seriously?

For a month? Perhaps.

The choice is, it should be my choice to gamble on not having insurance. Government should not have the power to force me to buy any product merely for the crime of being alive.

43 posted on 02/09/2012 10:20:22 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Oh of course I understand that and don’t question it. I might have taken that risk for just myself too. But damn that 10th amendment. ;-)


44 posted on 02/09/2012 10:40:59 AM PST by rhombus
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