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Obama administration struggles to contain uproar over birth-control rule
The Hill ^ | 02/08/12 05:54 PM ET | Amie Parnes and Sam Baker

Posted on 02/09/2012 6:23:21 AM PST by sr4402

The White House struggled Wednesday to contain the growing uproar over its birth-control mandate, with Democrats peeling off one by one in what has become an increasingly divisive election-year controversy.

Still, one senior Democratic aide said the plan has put some lawmakers in an “awkward position.”

“A lot of Democrats just don’t want to talk about it and be in the position of defending it,” the aide said. “It’s horrible timing.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; babies; baby; contraception; healthcare; moralabsolutes; obama; religiousfreedom
Panic in the Mainstream Media and the Democrats. Liberals still fighting for it.

If Obama gives a waiver will the uproar cease? Or will it have legs?

1 posted on 02/09/2012 6:23:32 AM PST by sr4402
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To: sr4402

He should have Pelosi speak about it some more.

People just love her.


2 posted on 02/09/2012 6:27:23 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: sr4402

Almost every article about this issue calls it a “birth control” issue. While it does concern birth control, it also is about abortion and the “morning after pill” which is abortion.


3 posted on 02/09/2012 6:27:40 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: sr4402

Never fear, the media will be in CYA mode. “Nothing to see here, move along”.


4 posted on 02/09/2012 6:27:58 AM PST by radioone
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To: sr4402

The peasants are getting angry ... der 0berFuhrer Emperor Hussein 0bama’s unconstitutional muslim edicts don’t set well!


5 posted on 02/09/2012 6:28:13 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: sr4402
Obama administration struggles to contain uproar over birth-control rule

More appropriate title: Obama and his socialist minions refuse to refrain from trampling on Americans’ religious freedom in defiance of the Constitution.

6 posted on 02/09/2012 6:28:43 AM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: sr4402

I hope 0bama tries to defend this one for a while; he needs to not back down too quickly. Let those with torches and pitchforks gather, and let it be timed such that the rest don’t forget in November.

My fear is that this issue is like the football team that scores the go-ahead touchdown with 2:34 left to play. They leave too much time on the clock. I want to see 0bama cave with only 0:04 on the clock.


7 posted on 02/09/2012 6:30:42 AM PST by henkster (Obama regime mission statement: "Find the people working, and stop them!")
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To: sr4402

It is time to separate the State of Obamanation from the United States of America, by IMPEACHING their Constitution-Bashing Leader Obama.

Arrogant and sneering Dictator , (in his own mind), Obama tees off all those who put Country above politics.


8 posted on 02/09/2012 6:31:42 AM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: sr4402
Please look at the BIG picture...Why is the govenment telling ANY EMPLOYER that they have to provide birth control?

What becomes of the controversy??

Probably Planned Parenthood will set up offices in every school & college in every town in the USA.

Rochester NY high schools are now giving out condoms.

9 posted on 02/09/2012 6:32:18 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: sr4402

Oh, one other point. The whole concept of “waivers” granted by the Executive branch is completely incompatible with the Rule of Law. Just more proof that the constitution is a dead letter.


10 posted on 02/09/2012 6:34:11 AM PST by henkster (Obama regime mission statement: "Find the people working, and stop them!")
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To: sr4402

The notion that Obama can simply issue a “waiver” is almost as upsetting as the rule itself. What part of the balance of powers does this jerk not understand? Hussein cannot make law, and he cannot apply the law unevenly. The Affordable Healthcare Act is law, and Hussein is bound by it, or get the Congress to repeal the law. Better yet, repeal the law at the same time you ride his sorry butt out of town on a rail, covered with tar and feathers.


11 posted on 02/09/2012 6:34:23 AM PST by Tzfat
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To: Graybeard58

Punished with a baby - Hussein Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNbaig-D5pk

(this video seems to be disappearing - there used to be several copies)


12 posted on 02/09/2012 6:35:41 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: All

Alan Keyes: Obama Defended Infanticide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNbp2-Tm9z4


13 posted on 02/09/2012 6:40:20 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
der 0berFuhrer Emperor Hussein 0bama’s unconstitutional muslim edicts don’t set well!

Yeah...like his edict that NASA is now to help the Arabs boost their "self esteem".....any GOP candidates on top of this....crickets

14 posted on 02/09/2012 6:43:03 AM PST by spokeshave (Mitt will release his tax returns when 0bambi releases his Birth Certificate and grades)
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To: sr4402

Obama passed this regulation to rally his base. He absolutely needs his base unified and enthusiastic if he hopes to win reelection. He cannot risk alienating his base by “backing down”. Yet if his internal polls are detecting some erosion of support due to this decision, it will be necessary to find a solution. Look for this “rule” once published to be brought before some accommodating federal judge. The judge will do Obama a huge service by declaring the rule “void” for some obscure reason. The base will be notified that the real “tragedy”would be if Obama loses the election. The Obama justice dept. will then not challenge the ruling. End result no back down, no rule , Catholics mollified, base intact,get on with the election.


15 posted on 02/09/2012 6:48:24 AM PST by allendale
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To: sr4402
Don't let them re-direct the issue.

It's NOT about "birth control." It never was.

It's about Freedom of Religion!

It's about governmental usurpation of our God-given rights.

16 posted on 02/09/2012 6:49:05 AM PST by eCSMaster (Excommunicate evildoers)
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To: Graybeard58

“Almost every article about this issue calls it a “birth control” issue. While it does concern birth control, it also is about abortion and the “morning after pill” which is abortion....”

While I agree with the last half of your statement, the real issue is one of freedom of conscience regarding religious objections - which brings us to the US Bill of Rights and that pesky Amendment #1.

Too bad that many citizens do not understand basic civics. Instead they are mostly concerned with getting something for free (contraceptives), &/or bashing the Catholic Church. Our society worships at the false god of sexual license.

I feel as though I am an observer in Germany in the mid-1930’s!!!


17 posted on 02/09/2012 6:51:06 AM PST by Gumdrop (!!)
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To: Tzfat
"What part of the balance of powers does this jerk not understand?

Totally the wrong question. He understands it very well and he is getting away with it. You should direct your question to the so-called leaders of the so-called Republican Party.

18 posted on 02/09/2012 6:52:35 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Graybeard58

I think this is calculated by the media. The HHS Abortifacient mandate is most definitely about killing new persons with unique DNA. They don’t want people to have this in the forefront of their minds.


19 posted on 02/09/2012 6:55:12 AM PST by Elvina (BHO is doubleplus ungood.)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

Exactly, we should not be directing our wrath at the commie that ignorance elected.

We should be directing it at those we elected to stop him.


20 posted on 02/09/2012 7:00:47 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Graybeard58

It is not just a “birth control” issue, nor is it only a “morning after” pill issue. It is not even only a freedom of conscience issue for religious organizations. It is a LIBERTY issue. It shows how the passage of Obamacare suddenly allows the Government to utilize its awesome coercive powers to control people’s most basic choices (nothing is more basic than control over your body, what goes into it, and who pays for it whether they like it or not). This is just the beginning. Roe v. Wade was just one issue and you can see how it has divided this country to this day. Obamacare will be a thousand Roe v. Wade’s. The Government will be able to tell employers what insurance they can or cannot provide, for free or for a fee, and wait till they approve or not approve payment for “controversial” drugs. This will show how the Government literally has life or death power over its citizens. This will finally show the nature of liberalism free of artifice: a jack booted ideology that thinks nothing of enforcing its preferences by force.


21 posted on 02/09/2012 7:01:12 AM PST by winner3000 (ss)
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22 posted on 02/09/2012 7:03:06 AM PST by narses
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To: sr4402

The one thing that may save him will be if the Supremes toss Obamacare in it’s entirety this summer, rendering these policies moot.

Irony, the Mark of Quality Literature.


23 posted on 02/09/2012 7:07:26 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
He should have Pelosi speak about it some more.

Pelosi is God's gift to Republicans. Yes, let he speak some more on how Courageous it is for Democrats to oppose the Catholic Church (her church).

It would make another great Ad along with "We have to pass this bill so you can find out what's in it"

24 posted on 02/09/2012 7:09:31 AM PST by sr4402
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To: Graybeard58
it also is about abortion and the “morning after pill” which is abortion."

You mean the Progressive/Liberal/Democrats Sacrament.

25 posted on 02/09/2012 7:11:36 AM PST by sr4402
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To: Sacajaweau
Please look at the BIG picture...Why is the govenment telling ANY EMPLOYER that they have to provide birth control?

Excellent point. As the Catholic proprietor of a business that insures it's employees, why should I be forced to violate my conscience any more than Notre Dame or Mercy Hospital?

26 posted on 02/09/2012 7:12:13 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sr4402

We knew long ago...look at the date this was posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVN2MMuiedI&feature=related


27 posted on 02/09/2012 7:16:50 AM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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"I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph.
And there's purpose and worth to each and every life".

~Ronald Reagan




*****

" I've got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby."

~Barack Obama




please click the pic

28 posted on 02/09/2012 7:18:01 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
What the law does is basically saying is YOU are to be part of Planned Parenthood....without the name.

Okay...so you don't want to do that....so we'll have to bring in MORE Planned Parenthood bases and "we the governnment" will pick up the tab.

29 posted on 02/09/2012 7:23:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
Why is the govenment telling ANY EMPLOYER that they have to provide birth control?

Because our Senators and Representatives, elected by we the people, think it is a good thing to do.

30 posted on 02/09/2012 7:46:50 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: Graybeard58

John Fund pretty much settled the question on Hannity. If the federal government wanted to assure universal access to contraceptives (and abortifacients), it could give them out on street-corners. There are hundreds of solutions if access is the problem. But that’s decidedly not what the Obama administration has in mind. It’s not even a matter of getting someone else to pick up the tab (Planned Parenthood & local state- and community-funded clinics are already doing exactly that—on tax-payer money, of course). Pure and simple, it’s an attack on the enemies of abortion.


31 posted on 02/09/2012 8:11:53 AM PST by Mach9
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To: sr4402

The thing that I see missing is all this is what about the RIGHTS OF ALL EMPLOYERS (not merely religious institutions).

Why should a Roman Catholic hospital be exempt from going against conscience, and individual employers are not?

Why should an evangelical, or Roman Catholic, or heck, and atheist, business owner be forced to pay for services of any kind—especially if he (alone...as he is paying the bill...) considers them unethical?

So now religious GROUPS are more free in their conscience than individuals? What kind of 1st Amendment protection is that—which leaves individuals out?


32 posted on 02/09/2012 10:33:17 AM PST by AnalogReigns (because REALITY is never digital...)
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To: MrB

“Exactly, we should not be directing our wrath at the commie that ignorance elected.

We should be directing it at those we elected to stop him.”

AMEN!!! Although our fury is big enough to be directed at both.


33 posted on 02/09/2012 10:59:41 AM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Ann Coulter is a joke.)
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To: AnalogReigns
So now religious GROUPS are more free in their conscience than individuals? What kind of 1st Amendment protection is that—which leaves individuals out?

Exactly. This is what the Progessive/Liberal/Democrats want to do. They wish to eliminate individual rights and replace them with a socialism that expresses Progressive/Liberal/Democratic beliefs only.

The biggest trouble I have with that socialism is that it is strongly atheistic and strongly anti-Christian in it's current form. Christians are singled out as 'Extreme' and 'out of touch' right wingers who need more liberalism. It's gotten to the point where this administration is trying to label them as terrorists to be put in the jails at the very least.

So you are exactly right, it is an attempt at wiping out individual liberties and rights.

34 posted on 02/09/2012 1:12:31 PM PST by sr4402
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To: sr4402; Liz; The Mayor
"I am dumbfounded that in the year 2012 we still are fighting about birth control," said Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York

"It is sad that we have to stand here yet again to fight back against another overreach and intrusion on women's lives," said Gillibrand, a Catholic. "The power to decide whether or not to use contraception lies with a woman, not her boss."
Dolan urges Obama to back down on birth control

And I am dumfounded at her ignorance of the faith she claims to embrace.

35 posted on 02/09/2012 2:42:46 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer
And I am dumfounded at her ignorance of the faith she claims to embrace.

Wikipedia says she is a Roman Catholic.

When will the church use church discipline? Will it come after it is forced out of the United States? What does it take? An outright denial of faith?

Opposing your own churches key doctrines is usually enough in most churches. Why not here??

36 posted on 02/09/2012 2:59:39 PM PST by sr4402
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To: henkster
I hope 0bama tries to defend this one for a while; he needs to not back down too quickly.

He can't stop quickly without loosing his nutroots. The KOSaks, The DU'ers, and the Progressive Mainstream media will have a kanipsion fit.

Remember, he is campaigning in the Democratic Party. And the party is wild for abortion right now. It is their Sacrament.

37 posted on 02/09/2012 3:08:30 PM PST by sr4402
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To: NYer; Liz

I am amazed that ALL of the NY dems seem to hold this very same view. It’s sickening. I’m not Catholic but I truly feel the Church should excommunicate any and all of these bafoons.


38 posted on 02/09/2012 8:02:32 PM PST by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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