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J.C. Penney CEO on Ellen DeGeneres controversy
CBS ^ | February 9, 2012 8:47 AM

Posted on 02/09/2012 6:56:53 AM PST by narses

(CBS News) J.C. Penney is trying to rebuild its customer base with help from a new spokeswoman, Ellen DeGeneres. But a group called One Million Moms is accusing the company of "jumping on the pro-gay bandwagon."

DeGeneres responded to the group on her TV show Wednesday, saying, "I'm happy about (being the spokesperson) J.C. Penney is happy about it. But there's this group called One Million Moms that is not happy about it. And normally I try not to pay attention to my haters, but this time I'd like to talk about it because my haters are my motivators. This organization doesn't think I should be the spokesperson because I am gay. So for those of you tuning in for the first time, I'm gay. I hope you were sitting down. ... So they wanted to get me fired, and I'm proud and happy to say that J.C. Penney stuck by their decision to make me their spokesperson."

In a statement last week, J.C. Penney said it stands behind its partnership the talk show host.

On "CBS This Morning," Thursday, J.C. Penney chief executive officer Ron Johnson, said the company "shares the same values" as DeGeneres and that the decision to have her as a spokesperson was a "no-brainer."

"We don't look at it like a controversy. One of the great things about America is people can speak their mind. And you know, the organization that believes one thing has spoken and it was great to see Ellen share her views yesterday. And we stand squarely behind Ellen as our spokesperson and that's a great thing. Because she shares the same values that we do in our company. Our company was founded 110 years ago on the golden rule, which is about treating people fair and square, just like you would like to be treated yourself. And we think Ellen represents the values of our company and the values that we share."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: blunders; degeneres; homosexualagenda; jcpenney; retail
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To: al_c

asked you a question and it is you who seems to not have a clue what you’;re on about, first free speech ,then you go on about unAmerican and now you can;t answer a simple question.

Will you buy or support or watch her show knowing all of this?


201 posted on 02/09/2012 1:28:31 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: traditional1

Sent my credit card back shredded years ago when they refused to give charitable donations to religious groups.


202 posted on 02/09/2012 1:28:49 PM PST by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home......)
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To: manc
asked you a question, it is really easy and you coudl have said yes or no instead of writing all of that so I’ll ask again/

Whatever, dude. If you read the posts, then you would have seen that I have already stated that I do not watch her show.

203 posted on 02/09/2012 1:29:03 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: wagglebee

This always astounds me

We republicans and conservatives stand for traditional values and we still get some who harp on about they have no proble,m with the homo agenda, when they see people banned they then harp on about free speech on here

There is no frigging free speech on here, it even states on the site that this is not a place fro the homo agenda.

no wonder why we have the left advancing their agenda when we can’t even get some on a conservatives site standing for what they say they do stand for


204 posted on 02/09/2012 1:31:14 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: manc
Will you buy or support or watch her show knowing all of this?

Read my posts ... you'll see the answer plain and simple.

205 posted on 02/09/2012 1:33:13 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: wagglebee; manc; trisham
The government cannot infringe upon a person's freedom of speech, but private groups and individuals aren't bound by it.

Fair enough.

Free Republic ALSO HAS AN AGENDA, so why are you and a bunch of trolls siding with the militant homosexuals who are trying to destroy Free Republic's agenda?

Troll?! Seriously wagglebee?!

Ya know what ... I'm done with this thread. I simply stated an opionion and now you, manc, and trisham are twisting the entire conversation beyond recognition. Have at it.

206 posted on 02/09/2012 1:33:39 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: al_c

is this so hard to answer and saying what ever dude FFS

I asked
will you purchase or support any company which she promotes or watch her show?

you said

Whatever, dude. If you read the posts, then you would have seen that I have already stated that I do not watch her show.

Look you still could have said no or yes it would have been easier so again will you stop helping the companies and stop supporting companies which hire people which advance the homosexual agenda, yes we have established you do not watch her show ?


207 posted on 02/09/2012 1:34:02 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: manc

No, you’re just being lazy and don’t want to wade through the posts. Read.


208 posted on 02/09/2012 1:36:01 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: al_c

no not twisting, just answer yes or no and i ask because right now the left are fighting like tooth and nail to take our values away our morals away , attacking religion etc

What I would like to know is will you help conservatives fight for what we stand for and for the future of our kids and yes I have 3 small ones and all have been warned about the homo agenda sadly and how the media will try and manipulate them


209 posted on 02/09/2012 1:36:30 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: al_c

No, you’re just being lazy and don’t want to wade through the posts. Read.


still easier to say yes or no, why do you find it easier to do all that writing you do but not write either 3 letters or two letters /


210 posted on 02/09/2012 1:37:55 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Albion Wilde
Well, isn't that special. Like a lot of head-in-the-sand "Christians," you don't seem to care how impressionable children and teens will be influenced by a major retailer's public endorsement of someone who practices distorted behavior.

Between Glee, Modern Family, Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy, Happy Endings, MTV, etc, it is going to be JC Penney that influences Children and Teens behaviour? I doubt it, they are more likely to be influenced by the behaviour of adults who attack what appears to be an otherwise positive person for a single flaw. That is the behaviour that is associated with bullying which is a major problem with our youth.

211 posted on 02/09/2012 1:38:51 PM PST by CMAC51
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To: manc
too many not willing to make a stand on our side sadly, give them their Hollywood media stars, their TV shows and their magazines then they are all set.

Yep. Bread and circuses.

212 posted on 02/09/2012 1:41:28 PM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: al_c; manc; trisham
Troll?! Seriously wagglebee?!

Ya know what ... I'm done with this thread. I simply stated an opionion and now you, manc, and trisham are twisting the entire conversation beyond recognition. Have at it.

I take it that reading comprehension isn't your area of expertise.

If you go back and read what I wrote, you will see that I never said you were a troll.

213 posted on 02/09/2012 1:47:59 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Duly noted.


214 posted on 02/09/2012 1:56:21 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: CMAC51; manc
Ellen...is active in provide [sic] cars, appliances, scholarships, financial assistance and a host of other forms of assistance to single moms, down on their luck families, childrens charities and families of the military....

Are you aware that Hezbollah and Hamas do a lot of charity work in order to further their agendas of furthering radical Islam, imposing shari'a law and recruiting jihadist terrorists? Does their charity make their agendas right?

Are you aware that George Soros does a lot of charity work in various nations before he moves in for the kill to destroy their currency and economy? Does his charity make his economic destruction right?


But who really cares, Ellen is gay, so Ellen is EVIL.

No one is saying that. We are saying that Penney's is promoting homosexuality as a positive value to the American families who heretofore have provided most of its profits, and we resent it. There's no hating in that, just resentment of being labled the "haters" because we do not want our children indoctrinated against the Christian value system we are trying to raise them with, and which, by the way, undergirded the writing of our Founding documents which have built the freedoms American has stood for until recently.

The Founders recognized the importance of the natural family and of traditional Judeo-Christian marriage in building a society that can support Republican freedoms. Homosexual promotion is a direct assault on the freedoms promised to a virtuous people. Now, virtue is "hate" and sin is politically correct.

Do a little research here:
Gay Marriage vs. American Marriage
by Kay Hymowitz | City Journal Vol. 14, No. 3

215 posted on 02/09/2012 2:02:35 PM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: CMAC51

“I doubt it, they are more likely to be influenced by the behaviour of adults who attack what appears to be an otherwise positive person for a single flaw. That is the behaviour that is associated with bullying which is a major problem with our youth.”

Wow! What a post. Where do I begin???

Children & teens are certainly apt to be influenced by the ADULTS who are endorsing this “spokesperson” because her entire identity is associated with gay rights.

You can claim that she is an otherwise positive person with a single flaw, but we aren’t talking about a flaw as in she wears tacky clothes or has a big butt. SHE LIVES AN IMMORAL, SEXUALLY PERVERSE LIFESTYLE.

What’s with your pro-homo agenda? Have you not read Jim Rob’s statement that FR is a pro-life, pro-family forum??


216 posted on 02/09/2012 2:07:07 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: KYGrandma
Sent my credit card back shredded years ago when they refused to give charitable donations to religious groups.

Yep. I did the same thing to Target when the gays in its headquarters forced them to push the Salvation Army buckets away from their stores at Christmas time. Have only been back twice in 10 years -- to return gifts.

217 posted on 02/09/2012 2:07:42 PM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: Albion Wilde

Scary how some can be taken in by Hollywood homosexuals, and those that promote and hire them. Their propaganda monopoly is powerful.

So as long as Ellen is “nice”, while promoting her sexual preferences and “nice” while calling these Mom’s HATERS, we can’t say anything lest we be called BULLIES.

Wow, upside down world we live in.


218 posted on 02/09/2012 2:16:56 PM PST by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: CMAC51; wagglebee
Between Glee, Modern Family, Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy, Happy Endings, MTV, etc, it is going to be JC Penney that influences Children and Teens behaviour? I doubt it, they are more likely to be influenced by the behaviour of adults who attack what appears to be an otherwise positive person for a single flaw. That is the behaviour that is associated with bullying which is a major problem with our youth.

Now you are saying that because television (which parents have every right and duty to restrict) is pushing homosexuality to children, Penney's is exempt from criticism for doing the same? Isn't that "reasoning" a little circular?

Secondly, bullying goes on all the time among every group of people. I am a grown woman with a massive Celtic temper to keep a reign on, yet I have been bullied at work by another woman who must be blowing more than smoke in our boss's direction. "Bullying" is one of the sinister Trojan Horse code words that enable ass jockeys to fling guilt along with poo at decent people who do not want their children's safety to hinge on homosexuality. Plenty of straight kids get bullied, sometimes to the point of suicide, but that has never been a federally-funded campaign to endorse the teaching of sex mechanics in kindergarten like the ostensible gay bullying has been.

Further, these stats about gay kids committing suicide because of homophobia need to be examined more closely. Social maladjustment of all kinds tempts teens to commit suicide. Before the suicide, troubled youths often turn to various kinds of high-risk behaviors to try to self-medicate their depression with the adrenaline produced in their system when they push the boundaries. It is more likely that homosexuality is a symptom of coping with depression, than that suicide is a result of homophobia.

219 posted on 02/09/2012 2:22:15 PM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: roses of sharon
we can’t say anything lest we be called BULLIES.

Agreed. See post 218.

220 posted on 02/09/2012 2:25:27 PM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: roses of sharon

OOPs — I meant 219.


221 posted on 02/09/2012 2:26:33 PM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: Albion Wilde

Excellent post.


222 posted on 02/09/2012 2:35:31 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: CMAC51
I doubt it, they are more likely to be influenced by the behaviour of adults who attack what appears to be an otherwise positive person for a single flaw. That is the behaviour that is associated with bullying which is a major problem with our youth.

Keep your filth away from our children.

223 posted on 02/09/2012 2:40:55 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: CMAC51

Anyone who doesn’t keep their sexual perversion private is a militant. It means they’re pushing on the public as an agenda.

Sexual pervsion is a mental illness and immoral. It should be in the closet.


224 posted on 02/09/2012 2:44:25 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Albion Wilde
http://www.itgetsbetter.org/search/results?cx=003624608217290596190%3A6rnmsdxx-t0&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=ellen+&sa=search

Ellen's new “bullying” campaign ‘IT GETS BETTER’.

This was started right after that college boy committed suicide. They claimed he did it because some kids filmed him in his room with a way older man, and showed it to others.

Meanwhile, he had been putting HIMSELF on a Internet web site for homosexuals, naked and playing with himself, advertising for sex. His words were right there! WE on FR all saw it with our own eyes the very week he killed himself.

Of course, “nice” Ellen nor the media ever mentioned that.

It is sicking the way they lie, you should read the ‘IT ONLY GETS BETTER’ site. Here is their claim:

“Many LGBT youth can't picture what their lives might be like as openly gay adults. They can't imagine a future for themselves. So let's show them what our lives are like, let's show them what the future may hold in store for them.”

So “nice” Ellen is encouraging our sons to continue (or begin) anal sex....that it will only get better!

Insane! (after working on a hospital wing with homosexuals in their 30s, 40s, and on up, who are unable to contain their own feces anymore)

God help us.

225 posted on 02/09/2012 2:46:39 PM PST by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: TheOldLady

I’ve had many, many a run-in on the Moral Absolutes pinged out threads. Probably Homosexual Agenda threads too. They’re sort of magnets, if you get my drift!


226 posted on 02/09/2012 3:16:43 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: SaraJohnson
There is no business sense in running polarizing radical politics out of Corporate offices.

But here's where I worry we've turned a corner in the wrong direction. More and more corporations feel perfectly comfortable embracing the homosexual agenda (and defending their decisions to do so). Google, Starbucks, Microsoft and many others stated their support for gay marriage before the vote in Washington state this week. Most Fortune 500 companies provide benefits for gay "married" couples, etc.

The people running these companies aren't stupid. They do their homework, and they know what consumers will and won't tolerate. They must be looking at data that tells them these sorts of actions will not harm their businesses in the long run. And that's what worries me more: not that companies are doing these things, but that their research tells them the American public will accept these things.
227 posted on 02/09/2012 3:20:51 PM PST by LonelyCon
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To: roses of sharon
(after working on a hospital wing with homosexuals in their 30s, 40s, and on up, who are unable to contain their own feces anymore)

I have to agree -- I worked in the arts for many years and knew many homosexual persons. Because of my initial acceptance, they allowed me to know what was really in their lives. It changed my view forever. I still love people and hate the sin, but now I really know just how degraded this particular constellation of sins is, and would not wish it on my worst enemy.

I also witnessed the onset of the "gay plague" (HIV) epidemic, and lost dozens of friends either to a horrible death from AIDS or a self-inflicted suicide just after diagnosis rather than go through what they saw their friends going through.

Amidst all that mess, a sizable percentage -- maybe 20%-- left the lifestyle and got married and had children. I still know some of those people and their children and grandchildren, and their struggle to "be transformed through the renewing of [their] mind" has been well worth the cost.

228 posted on 02/09/2012 3:24:44 PM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: LonelyCon; SaraJohnson
that's what worries me... not that companies are doing these things, but that their research tells them the American public will accept these things.

Here is yesterday's thread showing that conservative-themed movies outsell leftist-themed movies almost five to one, yet Hollywierd, still being populated by leftie freaks in most power positions, isn't ready to change course yet:

Movieguide: ‘Conservative’ movies make more money than ‘liberal’ ones

So don't worry about this generation of American people. Worry about how we can protect the next generation and hold out until we can turn this big ship around again.

229 posted on 02/09/2012 3:33:42 PM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: little jeremiah

Indeed. Moths to a flame.


230 posted on 02/09/2012 3:34:23 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: CMAC51; Albion Wilde
they are more likely to be influenced by the behaviour of adults who attack what appears to be an otherwise positive person for a single flaw.

A single FLAW?! Deviant sexuality is a FLAW?!

Good God you're kidding!

Is pedophilia a flaw?

Is bestiality a flaw?

Is necrophilia a flaw?

I am appalled. Absolutely appalled.

231 posted on 02/09/2012 3:34:47 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Albion Wilde

ever noticed how we don’;t hear much about homosexuals saying they made a mistake and now they are leading healthy traditional lives with children now?

While we have Hollywood etc out there displaying good looking girls kissing then young teen girls will always be manipulated and parents need to know what their children are doing and warn their children about what certain aspects of society are trying to do to them.


232 posted on 02/09/2012 3:40:42 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: AppyPappy

You’re confused. de Rossi didn’t become straight.


233 posted on 02/09/2012 4:07:15 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: al_c

They have a right to have an agenda. I agree with that.

They also have a right to be dishonest about their agenda and about those who disagree with them. For both JC Penny and for their opposition, this is about the symbolism and message sent by their hiring of Ellen DeGeneres.

JC Penny and others have portrayed the opposition as an attempt to prevent a citizen the right to work. That is dishonest, since the opposition is clearly focused on the message sent by a family store exalting the lesbian lifestyle.

But JC Penny has a right to be dishonest.


234 posted on 02/09/2012 4:41:33 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: CMAC51
Hey, that's cool!

Hitler did kill a few Jews, started a world war, and had his political enemies tortured to death, but heck, he built the autobahn and the Volkswagen! The Beetle! The Bug. It's so cute, the Volkswagen. Plus, he really, really loved his dog!

And the Germans loved him. He put them back to work! In the Great Depression. They loved him so much they even made up a name for him, Der Fuerher, means Leader.

Only bigots hate....

235 posted on 02/09/2012 4:41:49 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: manc

One thing I’ve learned over the years is that the only place to see good looking lesbians is in porno movies. And they’re just doing it for the money...

In real life, they all look like Ellen or Janet Napolitano.


236 posted on 02/09/2012 4:47:15 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: LonelyCon

The people running these companies aren’t stupid. They do their homework, and they know what consumers will and won’t tolerate.


Americans are not angry at the corporations for nothing. They used to respect successful business leaders and now they do not. Something has gone wrong and it is the CEO’s playing international elitist, self-centered, radical and immoral with their companies’ reputations and resources.

Psychopaths have risen to the top in the void left by liberalism’s cultural cleansing. They will end up bringing it all down without a care and lie without a problem at all. They get whatever marketing “research” the psychopath at the top wants. Corporate culture is way of touch with people outside the limo and up scale bath house.


237 posted on 02/09/2012 5:18:07 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: surroundedbyblue

Thank you. I don’t know how John Cash Penney would be reacting to this. It makes me think of Disney and what happened there after Walt Srs death.

I have shopped there all my life and love the store, but I am really saddened by the Ellen thing because no one considered how people like me feel about such things unless in derision for our view point.

Thanks for your prayers.


238 posted on 02/09/2012 6:08:08 PM PST by Jvette
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To: All

I just bought two bedspreads and matching curtains from them a few weeks ago, before this announcement. I will never buy another thing there and hope millions more don’t buy, either.


239 posted on 02/09/2012 6:24:50 PM PST by Marcella (Newt will smash Hussein in debates. Newt needs money.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Guess you didn’t bother to read Post #6 which I was replying to.......


240 posted on 02/09/2012 6:59:21 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: trisham

“”You’ve been here since 2002 and you’ve never read Jim Robinson’s statement on the home page of this site?””

Let me know when Jim says homosexuals shouldn’t be allowed to make a living....Selling makeup or any other product isn’t promoting a person’s sexual preference. When do you and the others here want to start hanging them?


241 posted on 02/09/2012 7:12:35 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush
There's a great deal of stupidity on this thread. If you wish to claim sarcasm you should make it clear that it is such.

Sarcasm sign "/s"

242 posted on 02/09/2012 7:20:47 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: All

Thanks for the link to JCP. Sent them an email saying I spent close to $400 a few weeks ago at JCP before “Ellen” and since her values are their values and they are not mine, I will no longer buy there.


243 posted on 02/09/2012 8:38:16 PM PST by Marcella (`)
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To: narses

I personally don’t think this is a big controversy at all. If One Million Moms hadn’t brought this up, I wouldn’t even know who the JCP brand amabassador is. Does anyone know who was their brand ambassador before this? To me Ellen is a comedian who happens to be a homosexual.


244 posted on 02/09/2012 8:43:09 PM PST by gingerales
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To: gingerales

Probably you would see Degenerate’s photo on ads and so on. If she wasn’t going to be used publicly, they wouldn’t hire her. She may “happen” to be homosexual, but it’s a big shtick with her and she makes sure everyone knows about it. And that is why JCPenny hired her. Not because of the comedian part.


245 posted on 02/09/2012 9:00:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Thank You Rush; trisham; DJ MacWoW

So not wanting homosexual agenda stuff shoved into the public is tantamount to “hanging them”? A little hyperbole, wouldn’t you say?


246 posted on 02/09/2012 9:02:14 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Thank You Rush; DJ MacWoW

Ahem - the author of the comment you are referring to is now zotted, just sayin....

He stepped over the line in supporting abortion and the homosexual agenda.


247 posted on 02/09/2012 9:05:17 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Thank You Rush; trisham; little jeremiah

If you know what their “sexual preference” is then they’re pushing and promoting their deviancy.


248 posted on 02/09/2012 9:12:07 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

That’s is exactly.


249 posted on 02/09/2012 9:34:11 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Portia looks like a man hater to me. Probably was molested as a child.


250 posted on 02/09/2012 11:50:08 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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