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J.C. Penney CEO on Ellen DeGeneres controversy
CBS ^ | February 9, 2012 8:47 AM

Posted on 02/09/2012 6:56:53 AM PST by narses

(CBS News) J.C. Penney is trying to rebuild its customer base with help from a new spokeswoman, Ellen DeGeneres. But a group called One Million Moms is accusing the company of "jumping on the pro-gay bandwagon."

DeGeneres responded to the group on her TV show Wednesday, saying, "I'm happy about (being the spokesperson) J.C. Penney is happy about it. But there's this group called One Million Moms that is not happy about it. And normally I try not to pay attention to my haters, but this time I'd like to talk about it because my haters are my motivators. This organization doesn't think I should be the spokesperson because I am gay. So for those of you tuning in for the first time, I'm gay. I hope you were sitting down. ... So they wanted to get me fired, and I'm proud and happy to say that J.C. Penney stuck by their decision to make me their spokesperson."

In a statement last week, J.C. Penney said it stands behind its partnership the talk show host.

On "CBS This Morning," Thursday, J.C. Penney chief executive officer Ron Johnson, said the company "shares the same values" as DeGeneres and that the decision to have her as a spokesperson was a "no-brainer."

"We don't look at it like a controversy. One of the great things about America is people can speak their mind. And you know, the organization that believes one thing has spoken and it was great to see Ellen share her views yesterday. And we stand squarely behind Ellen as our spokesperson and that's a great thing. Because she shares the same values that we do in our company. Our company was founded 110 years ago on the golden rule, which is about treating people fair and square, just like you would like to be treated yourself. And we think Ellen represents the values of our company and the values that we share."


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KEYWORDS: blunders; degeneres; homosexualagenda; jcpenney; retail
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To: Grunthor; al_c
This is a free country

:-) Color me pro-gay, too, I guess. JCP needed to have someone speak for them. No matter who they chose, there would be some FReeper who'd get their knickers in a twist over it.

I'm more concerned about their new pricing structure. With a little patience and attention, I often did extremely well on their sales (for instance I recently outfitted all of the beds in the house with new pillows for about 15c on the dollar)

Of course, they couldn't keep selling merch at a loss, so it was bound to come to an end, anyway.

51 posted on 02/09/2012 7:56:20 AM PST by wbill
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The lipstick lesbians will certainly be shopping more often at JCP.


52 posted on 02/09/2012 7:57:44 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: narses
"Because she shares the same values that we do in our company."

Oops...that line will come back to bite them in the ass...

53 posted on 02/09/2012 7:59:31 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Smellen Degenerate is what I call her.


54 posted on 02/09/2012 7:59:45 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: narses; wagglebee; P-Marlowe; wmfights
JC Penny pretends that they don't understand the symbol their promoting, but their own words belie them.

J.C. Penney chief executive officer Ron Johnson, said the company "shares the same values" as DeGeneres

Essentially, they say they believe in behavior that leads to early death, disease, mental illness, and distorted values. They believe in the unnatural.

And they believe they are exalted and no other.

55 posted on 02/09/2012 8:03:11 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

AMEN to that!!!

It and it’s “wife” look like dirty, smelly cretins.


56 posted on 02/09/2012 8:04:21 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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To: kcvl

Wonder when Penney’s will be introducing their ‘Jerry Sandusky’ line of men’s clothing?


57 posted on 02/09/2012 8:09:38 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: narses

But a group called One Million Moms is accusing the company of “jumping on the pro-gay bandwagon.”
............................................................

J.C. Penney just admitted that is exactly what they are doing.

On “CBS This Morning,” Thursday, J.C. Penney chief executive officer Ron Johnson, said the company “shares the same values” as DeGeneres and that the decision to have her as a spokesperson was a “no-brainer.”

Evidently they feel there are enough Dykes to keep them in business.


58 posted on 02/09/2012 8:12:56 AM PST by Venturer
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To: All
Genesis 1:28-30
New King James Version

28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Romans 1:26-27
New King James Version

26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which is due them.

Chapters 1 and 2 in the Book of Romans states the case why man is without excuse and under the wrath of God, but the hope and the remedy for the sinner (there is none righteous, no, not one. Romans 3:10) is in this ~

John 3:16 ~ For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him, should not perish but have everlasting life.

Psalm 119:89 ~ Forever, O Lord, thy word is firmly fixed in the heavens.

Amen ...

59 posted on 02/09/2012 8:16:02 AM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His word ...)
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To: narses

Doesn’t she wear the same outfit all the time?


60 posted on 02/09/2012 8:25:08 AM PST by fml
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To: South Hawthorne
I will say trying to “normalize” homosexualism is as evil as trying to deny autistic people help.

Agreed.

61 posted on 02/09/2012 8:26:32 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: narses
That was one of the stores I USED TO SHOP AT.

I've fired off my notice to them that caving to sex deivates just took them off my list of "places to shop".

62 posted on 02/09/2012 8:30:33 AM PST by traditional1 (Stay thirsty, my friends.)
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To: narses

Does this mean JCPenny will now have more comfortable shoes?


63 posted on 02/09/2012 8:33:02 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
There is a list somewhere of “gay” friendly companies.

Isn't Disney on that list as well, after the "Gay-Day debacle in Florida

64 posted on 02/09/2012 8:33:02 AM PST by verga (Protestant puppies have their eyes closed, Catholic ones have their eyes open.)
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To: Grunthor; narses; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; Lesforlife; ...
Well she’s in those make-up commercials and those don’t seem to be overtly pushing the gay agenda.

Well, well, this is very telling indeed Grunthor. You've spent the past three days pushing abortion and now you're pushing the homosexual agenda.

65 posted on 02/09/2012 8:33:40 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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66 posted on 02/09/2012 8:35:00 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Tallguy
Ellen is a very talented comedian & talkshow host. Yet putting her homosexuality up front has gotten her shows cancelled in the past. When she doesn’t push that aspect she does just fine with her audience.

I don't ever recall Ellen pushing her sexuality. She tried to keep it private and was outed. Being a very honest person she did not deny it. She tried to down play it, her exact quote being, "Yes I am Lebanese." She is not outspoken about it. The firestorms that have resulted in show cancellations have not been instigated by Ellen.

Ellen is an extremely kind, generous, honest and loving person, all very Christian values. However, to many Christians, she is GAY and nothing else. I wouldn't say that I am pro gay, but I do have a problem when people that I know lie, cheat, steal, philander, demonstrate hatred and bigotry, all sins, get very demonstrative about Ellen's sexuality being a sin, rather than learning from her strengths.

I will allow God to deal with her sensuality. Meanwhile, I will try to learn kindness, generosity, honesty and respect for my fellow beings from her. If I learn from Ellen's strengths, then I will be the better Christian for it.

67 posted on 02/09/2012 8:37:06 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: narses

Let JPC know how you feel:

https://shop5.jcpenney.com/jcp/frm_generalinquiries.aspx?VID=&Email=&Referer=http%3a%2f%2fwww.jcpenney.com%2fjcp%2fCustomerServiceSub.aspx%3fDeptID%3d12476%26CatID%3d25278%26CatTyp%3dCSR%26cmResetCat%3dTrue%26CmCatId%3dhomepage&Subject=General+Inquiries&Topic=&CmCatId=


68 posted on 02/09/2012 8:38:20 AM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: narses

Why on earth does business just stir up crap when trying to promote positive attention...especially Penney’s...a dying brand.

I do not do this in my business, it’s not the place for it....counter productive too

course airhead America could care less, they slopped at Oprah’s trough long enough

sad...

whatever happened to June Lockheart or Barbara Billingsley?


69 posted on 02/09/2012 8:38:52 AM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: EDINVA
I was trying to think of one woman comedienne who’s actually funny. Came up blank. Griffin is outright disgusting. DeGeneres has backed off her ‘in your face’ lesbianism of earlier times, and she is funny, did a good job for AmEx.

The ‘shared values’ statement could well have been left unsaid. Even CEO’s are entitled to be stupid from time to time.

I don't ever remember Ellen being "in your face", even when she was defending herself against attacks. She is one of the most kind, generous, respectful and loving celebrities of this day. If those are the values JCP is talking about, where is the problem?

70 posted on 02/09/2012 8:41:51 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: al_c

and we are free to reject the company for associating with such a person who opposes marriage.

Note how she is using the buzzword “equality”

Why not just say homoesexuals just “need room to grow” ala 1930’s


71 posted on 02/09/2012 8:42:03 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: CMAC51

My problem is I don’t care for Ellen. You may think all those positive things about her, but I don’t. Others don’t either. We are entitled to opinion as much as you are.

She also had the Mooochelle on the other day and was fawning over her.

There are so many other people that JC Penny could have picked, but they did something stupid and picked a person sure to cause notice. Maybe it will be popular with some liberals. However, it isn’t with me or my family. To be honest, we’d rather they lower prices or improve quality than spend money on a “spokesperson”.


72 posted on 02/09/2012 8:47:49 AM PST by 1scrappymom
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To: longtermmemmory
and we are free to reject the company for associating with such a person who opposes marriage.

Absolutely!

73 posted on 02/09/2012 8:50:10 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: al_c

Is there a funny pervert you wouldn’t hire? A spokespervert for your company as long as they make money. You got a real set of values there.


74 posted on 02/09/2012 8:51:02 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Mr. K

I was with Ellen on this one until she called people who disagree with her “haters”

Make no mistake about what E. Degenerate is hiding in her mind and soul. What is on the camera is usually edited, right?


75 posted on 02/09/2012 8:53:59 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: CMAC51
I don't ever recall Ellen pushing her sexuality.

Ellen's first sitcom "Ellen" was initially quite successful until the character she played "came out." She may have been "outed" before that, I don't recall. Anyway, the show quickly lost ratings and Ellen went on several talkshows, notably Oprah, in which she discussed her lifestyle and her show's demise. I would charactarize that as 'pushing' her lifestyle choices. Then there was the very publicized relationship with Portia De Rossi.

It was a little hard to ignore.

76 posted on 02/09/2012 8:54:40 AM PST by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: wardaddy
whatever happened to June Lockheart or Barbara Billingsley?

I must say I had the hots for June Lockhart when I was a kid watching her on Lost in Space. But if you knew anything about her personal life, you'd probably want to boycott her as well.

She was canned from serving as host of the Miss USA Pageant under a morals clause when it was revealed she was living in sin with a much younger man (life imitating art for Mrs. Robinson). She also very publicly protested against the Vietnam War.

As for Barbara Billingsley, while she was married three times she's no Newt--only one of her marriages ended because of divorce. So I guess she'd be a great spokesperson for JC Penney. Well, if it wasn't for her being dead.
77 posted on 02/09/2012 8:55:26 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: MrB

I think it’s the other way around.
The homos are being used as a weapon by the anti-Christian left.

The goal is to criminalize Christianity. And it will happen.””

The homos are the anti-Christian left.


78 posted on 02/09/2012 8:55:54 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: AppyPappy

Ellen got quiet about her sexuality after her relationship mishap(lesbian partner became straight).””

Looking long enough at Ms Degenerate would drive some people to cross species lines.


79 posted on 02/09/2012 8:57:37 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: al_c

She does commercials for makeup, I think Cover Girl, and there has been no controversy that I am aware of regarding that. I do find it strange that a lesbian would be chosen to do a makeup commercial, but she does it with great humor as is usually Ellen. I have no problem with Ellen being a spokesperson for a particular product as long as her lesbianism isn’t made part of the commercial.


80 posted on 02/09/2012 9:00:31 AM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: CMAC51

You also just described a Mr. Jerry Sandusky, former employee and same-sex rapist of little boys of PSU.


81 posted on 02/09/2012 9:04:39 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Tallguy

Her first sitcom was hysterical. I used to laugh until I cried it was so funny. But when she came out, the show suddenly changed fron a sitcom to a soap box for the lesbian lifestyle, and that’s when it lost ratings and I stopped watching.


82 posted on 02/09/2012 9:06:54 AM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: al_c

Sure, JC Penny’s is free to hire Ellen. Consumers are also free to object, organize boycotts and not visit their stores if they don’t want to feed the CEO’s limo liberal cause of radical social engineering.

Corporations used to know that it was not to their advantage to isolate or shrink their American consumer base by engaging in the radical Left’s social engineering and political activities. They knew what is popular with their elitist limo mob, is not necessiarly popular with mainstream America. The CEO would have been fired for causing a polarizing controversy that is not in the interest of the corporation’s public image for it’s consumer base.

Big headed globalism has made for a culture of radical aggression - elitism - in Corporations. They have been able to insult and rip off Americans because they don’t depend upon American workers and consumers and they are also legally free to do it. Ultimately, it will all backfire and lead to failure - like liberalism always does. There is no business sense in running polarizing radical politics out of Corporate offices.


83 posted on 02/09/2012 9:11:11 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: narses

I have worked at JCP for nearly three years now. It is the same as any other corporation, with mandatory classes that emphasize diversity and sensitivity to “others” and has a zero tolerance policy for anyone who does not comply with their idea of tolerance.

Ellen Degeneres was chosen for two reasons. She is the most popular daytime personality on TV, hands down and those are the moms the company wants shopping regularly. And she used to work for the company when she was a teen.

To Ron Johnson, that is the perfect match.

I am not a fan, though it seems that Ellen has done some generous things over the years that make people see her as a good person. I am not impressed, it’s easy to do these things when you are famous and have companies willing to pony up goods and services for the free publicity. Like most “stars”, using their fame to get others to donate, without giving of their own wealth.

Those of us who are just the peons in the trenches at penney’s are skeptical about all the changes. Time will tell. We were not asked our opinions on anything and if the company suffers so do we.

I am seriously considering a move, but in Vegas, there are not a lot of jobs up for grabs right now, especially for those who have no specialized training or a college degree.

I don’t blame anyone for choosing not to shop there because of Ellen, it’s their right, but I need this job and walking away because of Ellen is not an option, until and unless another one that pays as well, and has the flexibility of schedule comes along.


84 posted on 02/09/2012 9:11:39 AM PST by Jvette
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To: Neoliberalnot
Is there a funny pervert you wouldn’t hire? A spokespervert for your company as long as they make money. You got a real set of values there.

I'm not running JCP, am I? Don't be a jerk.

85 posted on 02/09/2012 9:12:38 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: narses

I never go there but I will make an effort ot let others know about their pro homo agenda.

As for Ellen, ARF, she uses her show to push her strap on agenda


86 posted on 02/09/2012 9:29:38 AM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: narses

Worse than any spokesperson, is JCP’s latest commercial with the screamers, so annoying. To think that some high priced ad people thought that is a good commercial.

Years ago JCP had a back to school ad, a respectable teenage girl getting ready to go to school. Mom shouts your not going to school like that! Many quick shots of available clothing. Teenage girl now wearing low cut jeans, tight top etc. Mom now happy.


87 posted on 02/09/2012 9:33:51 AM PST by FreedomGuru (Oil is as natural as daises and rainbows.)
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To: Tallguy
Ellen's first sitcom "Ellen" was initially quite successful until the character she played "came out." She may have been "outed" before that, I don't recall. Anyway, the show quickly lost ratings and Ellen went on several talkshows, notably Oprah, in which she discussed her lifestyle and her show's demise. I would charactarize that as 'pushing' her lifestyle choices. Then there was the very publicized relationship with Portia De Rossi. It was a little hard to ignore.

Ellen was outed, she was trying to keep it private. When it reached a certain point, being an honest person, she conceded, "Yes I am Lebanese." At that point it was the elephant in the room and she would speak about it; again, she is honest to a fault. She has not, to my knowledge, conducted herself in a manner that could be construed as a spokesperson or advocate. Hard to ignore or not, publicity has always been forced upon her, not vice versa. The charachters she played in her sitcoms were kind, generous, helpful, simple people who represented everything parents should be trying to teach their children. In both cases, external forces perverted the situation to highlight the gay issue.

I would like to see as much effort put forth by the media to publicize her generosity and kindness. That doesn't fit the template though, or serve anyones agenda.

88 posted on 02/09/2012 9:36:00 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: al_c

yea ,I mean there wasn’;t any other women about , I mean after all she is a talentless, liberal pro homosexual agenda woman, who uses her show to fool the sheep .

I’ve tried to watch her as the wife has and even the MIL has now stopped watching her.


89 posted on 02/09/2012 9:37:54 AM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: narses

The bottom line will tell the tale.


90 posted on 02/09/2012 9:47:07 AM PST by AliVeritas (Pray. God's will be done. Abortion leaves two victims, the mother and the child.)
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To: 1scrappymom
You may think all those positive things about her, but I don’t. Others don’t either. We are entitled to opinion as much as you are.

I know you don't, because she is gay. It doesn't matter that she is charitable to the less fortunate, that she never has an unkind word to say unless she's been attacked, that she is honest to a fault, that she cares for her family or any other of the litany of things that point to her as being a good person. She is gay so she is EVIL.

Yes you are entitled to your opiinion and when you express it, others are entitled to judge you by it. I would far prefer my children look past her sexuality and learn from all of Ellen's positives than learn from the bigoted opinions you express. Of course, that is just my opinion.

91 posted on 02/09/2012 9:48:34 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: Jvette

Thank you for giving the perspective of someone that works there. Good luck to you.


92 posted on 02/09/2012 9:51:35 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: CMAC51; 1scrappymom; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
I would far prefer my children look past her sexuality and learn from all of Ellen's positives than learn from the bigoted opinions you express.

So, people who don't want militant homosexuality pushed on their children are "bigots"?

93 posted on 02/09/2012 9:56:56 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: CMAC51

You sure do sound like some kinda liberal, pro-homosexual troll. Or are you just one of the godless anarchists masquerading as a “libertarian”?

We don’t need some lezbo apologist around here. I do not care how nice, generous, or kind Ellen is. That is not the issue. The issue is the social re-engineering underway. I do not want to feel harassed into accepting a sexual perverison, which is exactly how I feel these days.

As a Christian, I believe that homosexuality is a sin. A terrible, terrible sin. I have a right to religious freedom, and I don’t appreciate having my beliefs questioned or ridiculed by a department store.


94 posted on 02/09/2012 9:59:54 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: manc

I’ve seen pictures and video of her dancing with female guests, and it creeps me out.


95 posted on 02/09/2012 10:00:44 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: CMAC51

You’re full of it.


96 posted on 02/09/2012 10:03:10 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: CMAC51

Some people love their children, and don’t want them lured into a harmful lifestyle. Some people just want to be popular, and don’t want to tell their children anything that might disrupt that relationship. If you love your children, you’ll tell them the truth.


97 posted on 02/09/2012 10:06:38 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: CMAC51

Like you, I’m not going to base decisions about where I shop, what movies I see, etc. on someone’s sexual orientation. If Tony Randall was gay, should I have avoided his movies? Should I have kept my daughter from watching “Finding Nemo”?


98 posted on 02/09/2012 10:06:45 AM PST by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: trisham
my MIL saw her making disgusting comments to another woman guest and the sheep groupie crowd thought it was funny, however the MIL did not, She has never watched her since. I've heard off others how she has danced with other women, sat on the knee with another etc. How anyone can watch her anyway amazes me but for anyone to say they 're a conservative and then sit there watching a woman push her homosexual agenda and making those kind of comments is staggering . One thing about the fringe left and that is they know how to boycott, they know how to go after sponsors and they know how to get organized , us on our side seem to be unable to do that. Yes we'll have folks , say on here but then they still go ahead and watch her stupid show or they'll say no more homo depot but then go to homo depot the next week.
99 posted on 02/09/2012 10:07:28 AM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Jvette

Prayers for you.

We know that Satan often wraps his ugliness in pretty packaging, and makes things seem not as bad as they truly are. The secular humanist agenda that surrounds your workplace right now is evil. May St Michael, along with your own Holy Angel, protect you, and may Our Lady give you the strength & courage to be a good witness for her Son.


100 posted on 02/09/2012 10:07:28 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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