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Turnout Proves That Mitt Really Did Scorch the Earth (three states held votes and nobody came)
American Thinker ^ | 02/09/2012 | C. Edmund Wright

Posted on 02/09/2012 7:08:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The real story of the three results from Tuesday night is not that Rick Santorum picked up some wins -- though that is big. No, the real story is that three states held votes and nobody came. Almost nobody, that is. Consider that the total turnout for Missouri, Colorado, and Minnesota combined was barely over half of the turnout of South Carolina alone and -- worse yet -- barely over half the turnout for the same three states in 2008.

Thus, after South Carolina's record-setting primary turnout, the Republican Party has now seen a total of five events in a row where turnout was down compared to 2008. This includes the three events from this week along with Nevada and Florida.

Yes, something has made Republicans less excited about beating Barack Obama than they were about John McCain maybe replacing George W. Bush. Who knew that was even possible?

What gives?

The answer is fairly clear. The candidates have forgotten about Obama. What has turned folks off is Mitt Romney's scorched-earth campaign, which has managed to unfortunately suck all the rest of the candidates into a circular firing squad of a childish food-fight that is of zero interest to the Republican base voter.

Given that all have entered the negative arena, though, you might ask, Why blame Mitt?

Good question, but it has an easy answer. The Romney campaign and their PACs have the lion's share of the ad money and thus can dictate the ground rules. Also, for the record, they started it, along with Ron Paul in Iowa, in a panicked response to Newt's double-digit lead in the polls. In Florida it got so bad that 99% of Mitt's ads were negative towards Newt Gingrich, and only 1% were positive about Mitt.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: caucus; gop; primaries; romney

1 posted on 02/09/2012 7:08:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Non-binding primaries mean nothing.


2 posted on 02/09/2012 7:12:39 AM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Too many lawmakers, too many laws, too many lawyers.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The candidates have forgotten about Obama. What has turned folks off is Mitt Romney's scorched-earth campaign, which has managed to unfortunately suck all the rest of the candidates into a circular firing squad of a childish food-fight that is of zero interest to the Republican base voter

True dat....needs to be repeated....and ....

What happened that FR is so slow. It has made me not read and post as much. Anyone else experiencing this or do I need a new computer

3 posted on 02/09/2012 7:12:39 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda (Tagline for rent: Inquire within!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It was started before Iowa. Who do you think orchastrated the attacks on Perry and Bachmann here? And, when that was successful, they turned it on Cain. I can assure you it was NOT Newt or Santorum supporters.


4 posted on 02/09/2012 7:15:21 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: SeekAndFind; C. Edmund Wright
Excellent. FAUX puts on guys with chalkboard and whiteboard but neither comes close to C Edmund Wright for analysis.
5 posted on 02/09/2012 7:16:10 AM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They’ll turn out in November. But not necessarily to vote FOR the Republican candidate. They’ll be voting AGAINST Obama.

I hope.


6 posted on 02/09/2012 7:20:23 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

The electorate is simply uninterested in business-as-usual. Period.


7 posted on 02/09/2012 7:22:04 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: McGavin999
It was started before Iowa. Who do you think orchastrated the attacks on Perry and Bachmann here? And, when that was successful, they turned it on Cain. I can assure you it was NOT Newt or Santorum supporters.

It sure seemed to work with so called conservative voters. Look at the rabid attacks on them that were posted right here at FR. I made my 3 choices early and stood by them. I'm down to my last choice with Santorum and then I'm done.
8 posted on 02/09/2012 7:23:05 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Low turn-out might have something to do with the fact that Tuesday’s contests didn’t actually allocate delegates. Folks as voters may have taken the same attitude toward them that Gingrich as a candidate took toward the one in Missouri: not worth the bother.


9 posted on 02/09/2012 7:24:09 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

FR is painfully slow lately, and I’ve never experienced this before. Thought it was the computer for a while, or the browser, but only FR takes its time. I am usually busy elsewhere so it doesn’t matter much, but still, it does make me wander off while waiting so long for a page to appear. Worse than dialup.


10 posted on 02/09/2012 7:26:52 AM PST by Lady Lucky (Public education -- government cheese for the brain.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Great comment at source:
Aitch748

2 hours ago

Watching Romney's supporters online turning into Alan Grayson clones hasn't exactly helped get wavering voters excited about Romney, either. Neither has Romney's failure to sell himself at all -- nearly all of his efforts have been to drive his closest competitor out of the race (one intemperate Romney associate actually announced to the press that beating Gingrich wasn't enough, that the goal was to destroy Gingrich utterly).

William Jacobson at Legal Insurrection said that some guys in business deals couldn't "leave the last nickel on the table"; they insisted on humiliating the people on the other side of the table and leaving them with nothing to show for their attempts to make a deal. As Jacobson noted, this sounded like Romney. So maybe many of the people who were at least willing to give the CEO of Godfathers Pizza a hearing might not be so thrilled with supporting a Gordon Gekko.

In a nutshell: Romney and many of his more vocal supporters are just plain unlikeable. Naturally people are looking for an alternative.


11 posted on 02/09/2012 7:34:39 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Go Newt!)
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To: al_c

Incorrect. If the Establishment forces Mitt, Obama wins. For the same reason there was light Primary turnout, there will be light turnout for Mitt in the general. Merely voting against Obama will not be enough. So Ann Coulter and the rest of the Establishment had better figure out how to gin up love for their puppet, Mitt, because we ain’t voting for Mitt or against Obama... we ain’t votin’. We will however, vote down ticket.


12 posted on 02/09/2012 7:34:56 AM PST by Obadiah (Why do they put Braille dots on the keypad of the drive-up ATMs?)
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To: Obadiah
If the Establishment forces Mitt, Obama wins.

And I think the Estabs are fine with that. They went French on this election long ago.

13 posted on 02/09/2012 7:38:47 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

I thought it was just my computer, but obviously others are having the same problem.


14 posted on 02/09/2012 7:40:06 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: al_c
They’ll turn out in November

If and only if there's someone on the GOP side worth turning out for.

15 posted on 02/09/2012 7:41:06 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: McGavin999
That's the the Mitt "Mountain Meadows" Romney approach.

This is the Mormon version of jihad!

One can only begin to imagine how he will operate if he has the power of the presidency behind him.

16 posted on 02/09/2012 7:41:34 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Go Newt!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"No, the real story is that three states held votes and nobody came."

The GOP can expect the same non-turnout in November if Romney's on the ballot. I won't vote for him.

17 posted on 02/09/2012 7:42:20 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

check your ‘puter

it’s workign fin for me

Download “RegCleaner” software, Avast anti-virus software, and MalwareBytes

(you need all three, and they are free for home use)


18 posted on 02/09/2012 7:44:49 AM PST by Mr. K (Were the Soviet-Era propogandists as gleefully willing as our Lame-stream Media?)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

Very slow for me, too...no matter which computer I use.


19 posted on 02/09/2012 7:51:37 AM PST by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Oberon

ding ding ding... We have a winner...


20 posted on 02/09/2012 8:02:57 AM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: SeekAndFind
The candidates have forgotten about Obama. What has turned folks off is Mitt Romney's scorched-earth campaign

...Which is why neither Romney nor Gingrich have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the general election. Those two aren't Obama's potential opponents.. they're his entertainment.

IMO, the only (and very slim at best) hope is Santorum. None of the others will bring out the conservative base.

Also, the new Ras poll indicating more people than ever before blame Bush for the economy, reversing a trend toward recognition of the truth, tells me the American electorate is brain-dead anyway.

Dear God, please give me reason to hope...

21 posted on 02/09/2012 8:05:51 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: The_Reader_David

I agree that the fact that no delegates were actually allocated had to put a damper on enthusiasm. And I also blame low turnout on the caucus format. Why would I go and sit for a couple hours and listen to people blather on about why they support a certain candidate? One of the networks asked the voters at one of the caucus locations how many of them still had not made up their mind on whom they would vote for. About 2 people out of around 40 said they were still open to changing their minds. So, why do they sit around and give their speeches? It seems to me that after all this time and, and after 19 nationally televised debates, folks ought to, and did know whom they were supporting.


22 posted on 02/09/2012 8:06:34 AM PST by mtrott
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To: McGavin999

It started way before that. Who do you think was responsible for the attacks on Sarah Palin?


23 posted on 02/09/2012 8:07:51 AM PST by anoldafvet
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To: Lady Lucky
FR is painfully slow lately

Nothing can be as painfully slow as trying to load Castleville or Frontierville games on Facebook. It can take about ten to fifteen minutes, then crashes.

24 posted on 02/09/2012 8:13:46 AM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Mittens is and always has been a non-starter.
Why go vote if there is no one to vote for?
25 posted on 02/09/2012 8:14:49 AM PST by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: Obadiah

Then you lose your right to complain if Obama gets a second term.


26 posted on 02/09/2012 8:19:07 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Obadiah

So called republicans by name only, as not all are “Conservatives”, are going to be surprised if Romney gets nominated but will not be elected. Most “Conservatives” are smart enough to realize that Romney is nothing more than the Kenyan warmed over and the most recent voter turn out appears to prove it. If he is nominated I believe many people will refrain from voting altogether which will assure the re-election of the same curse this country is suffering from. In order for a good portion of Americans to wake up this country will have to hit bottom real hard and the present leader of this show will see to it that it will happen as there is no cure for ignorance and stupidity


27 posted on 02/09/2012 8:22:54 AM PST by saintgermaine
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To: SeekAndFind

The other thing that just could be an issue is... conservatives have no clear conservative candidate to vote for. Some people do not want to just vote against someone, they want to actually vote for someone they truly support. Sadly as much as I agree with that, we will have Obama again and future Obamas because of that, if the GOP doesn’t wake up.


28 posted on 02/09/2012 8:24:53 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: al_c
Then you lose your right to complain if Obama gets a second term.

Well, I certainly don't hold that to be true, but I would consider it a greater evil to vote for Mitt who is nothing more than a trojan horse Obama.

29 posted on 02/09/2012 8:30:37 AM PST by Obadiah (Why do they put Braille dots on the keypad of the drive-up ATMs?)
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To: Lady Lucky

I’ve experienced a hugh slowdown. Seems like it coincides with the current Freepathon?


30 posted on 02/09/2012 8:39:38 AM PST by matthew fuller (Obama has definitely earned a second term- 99 years in Leavenworth USP.)
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To: matthew fuller

That sounds series!!


31 posted on 02/09/2012 8:40:55 AM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I totally disagree with the premise of this article.

The light needs to shine on Mitt’s Progressive Liberal record very brightly until he is just a nightmare of a memory.

This focusing on Obama crap is what Romney’s handlers want everyone to do because then they can pump up the volume on their Mr. Inevitable crap and then Romney can go to his standard practice of just saying whatever he thinks the current set of voters wants to hear.

I say keep telling the truth about Romney until he is no longer a threat to Conservatives, the GOP, or this great country, then, and only then, we can nominate someone who can actually beat Obama.


32 posted on 02/09/2012 8:52:49 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: al_c
They’ll turn out in November. But not necessarily to vote FOR the Republican candidate. They’ll be voting AGAINST Obama.

I Hope.


If Mitt Romney is the nominee, your Hope will be a false one.

The base will not turn out for a candidate with the Progressive Liberal record that Mitt Romney has.

And as more and more people get educated about Mitt Romney's past, he is more and more unlikely to get nominated, and if by some fluke he was nominated, it becomes more and more likely he would be slaughtered by Obama in the general election.
33 posted on 02/09/2012 8:56:42 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SeekAndFind; C. Edmund Wright
Perhaps my grapes were a bit sour. That doesn't change the fact that the analysis and prediction were right on the money. Mitt's scorched earth has indeed come back to haunt not only him, but the entire party. Even Santorum can claim wins only with tiny voter populations that have been carpet-bombed with negativity. He has shown zero ability to promote enthusiasm or turnout either.

In a cycle when primary turnout should be at an all-time high, the hatred the candidates have for each other is trumping their love for the country and turning voters away in droves. There is no way this is a winning strategy in 2012. If one of these candidates does not re-apprehend what the voters are demanding, we will all be losers.

Your analysis and prediction were right on the money! There will be a debate on February 22 before the AZ and Michigan primaries on the 28th.

If Mitt remains scorched earth and the others simply ignore him I will be okay with either Newt or Santorum but will plan to vote for Newt barring extremely low poll numbers. (Same for their ads.)

I am hoping that Newt can rise above his ego and realize that Mitt has exposed Mitt's destructive, dishonest self and people DO NOT LIKE HIM for it!!!

IOW this time Newt doesn't have to respond in kind except maybe to say some variation of "there you go again" maybe adding "with your turnout depressing destructive and false accusations, here's what's important...". Then address the audience at home, remark to US "Please don't let this depress your positive enthusiasm and then give one of his award winning answers.

34 posted on 02/09/2012 8:58:10 AM PST by Sal (Soros owns ALL the 'Rats and the GO PEE (self appointed Establishment Elite)
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To: al_c

hardly...we get the right to complain that we will not vote for yet another not very conservative GOP nominee

what have we had ..1 conservative...since 1964?

give me a break

I’m 54, first time I’m not gonna play along


35 posted on 02/09/2012 8:59:13 AM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: al_c; Obadiah
Then you lose your right to complain if Obama gets a second term.

Why?

Why does it become our fault if:

1. The GOP Elite (GOP-E).
2. Moderates
3. Open-Primary Democrats/So-Called Independents
4. Cowardly conservatives who sacrifice their values and principles for the false mantra of either Electability or Inevitability.
5. Mormon Conservatives practicing a Tribal Religious loyalty.

Give us a nominee who has such a Progress Liberal record as Mitt Romney?

How does that become our fault if we choose to value our principles and values and say either write-in, leave blank or vote Third Party for an actual conservative for POTUS?

Your logic is completely faulty.
36 posted on 02/09/2012 9:01:07 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: wardaddy
I’m 54, first time I’m not gonna play along.

Dam skippy!

37 posted on 02/09/2012 9:31:31 AM PST by Obadiah (Why do they put Braille dots on the keypad of the drive-up ATMs?)
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To: SoConPubbie

Why? Because it will eventually come down to a contest between two people ... one that leans left, and the other that has proven himself to be a socialist hellbent on taking down this country. Personally, between the two ... I’d rather have the former.


38 posted on 02/09/2012 9:34:57 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: SoConPubbie

Don’t
Doubt
Me


39 posted on 02/09/2012 9:36:03 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: al_c; SoCal Pubbie; All

“Why? Because it will eventually come down to a contest between two people ... one that leans left, and the other that has proven himself to be a socialist hellbent on taking down this country. Personally, between the two ... I’d rather have the former.”

Wrong.

Two business as usual politicians, whose records, while in power, are practically mirror images.

Pay attention to ‘the establishment’ voices, and how often they slip and reveal that it is all for show.

They are trying to convince us that he has changed his beliefs, and he just needs to learns to say the right things to win over the base.

There are a lot of us out here who will not vote for an evil man, even if he has an R by his name.

I will not vote for Romney.


40 posted on 02/09/2012 10:24:40 AM PST by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: redinIllinois; al_c
There are a lot of us out here who will not vote for an evil man, even if he has an R by his name.

I will not vote for Romney.


Al_c,

Do you consider yourself a Christian?

If so, how can you support, even with just your vote, a man who has been proven to be a serial liar, and a supporter of the most evil aspects of our culture today, Abortion and the Gay Agenda?

I agree with redinIllinois: I cannot vote for an evil man.

It won't be my fault if compromisers, those who don't care, and those too lazy to inform themselves vote this creep as the Nominee, I cannot vote for someone whose character is totally lacking in any substance.
41 posted on 02/09/2012 10:29:41 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: al_c

Imho, you could not be more wrong.


42 posted on 02/09/2012 10:32:59 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Do you consider yourself a Christian?

Yep!

If so, how can you support, even with just your vote, a man who has been proven to be a serial liar, and a supporter of the most evil aspects of our culture today, Abortion and the Gay Agenda?

And how can you support one with that same description and worse by abstaining from voting for the opposition candidate?

I agree with redinIllinois: I cannot vote for an evil man.

Fine. Then get out there and make sure Mittens doesn't get the nomination. But if he does, then vote against an even more evil man.

43 posted on 02/09/2012 11:19:50 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: al_c
And how can you support one with that same description and worse by abstaining from voting for the opposition candidate?

That's a dishonest statement on your part.

There are not just two choices and you know that.

And my voting for an actual conservative will be an honest vote.

Once again, try the blame game with someone else.

Why don't you start with the following:

1. The GOP Elite (GOP-E).
2. Moderates
3. Open-Primary Democrats/So-Called Independents
4. Cowardly conservatives who sacrifice their values and principles for the false mantra of either Electability or Inevitability.
5. Mormon Conservatives practicing a Tribal Religious loyalty.
44 posted on 02/09/2012 11:52:23 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
Nice that you ignored the other part of my post. Do something to keep Mittens from being the GOP candidate. Why don't you start with that?
45 posted on 02/09/2012 12:04:50 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: al_c
Nice that you ignored the other part of my post. Do something to keep Mittens from being the GOP candidate. Why don't you start with that?

No side-step intended.

I'm doing my best to convince as many voters as possible not to vote for Mitt Romney in either the Primaries or General?

You seem to be stuck on supporting him in the General, which is right where the GOP wants you to be, accepting of the liberal candidate they are trying to manipulate into the nomination.

While they have voters like you stating they'll support the eventual candidate, no matter how flawed he may be, the GOP-E has won the battle over the Tea-Party.

Congratulations!
46 posted on 02/09/2012 12:19:05 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Um ... nope. I’ve been against Mittens since day one. My only point during this little conversation of ours is that if ... and I mean “if” ... he gets the GOP nomination, I will reluctantly check the box next to his name in order to VOTE AGAINST OBAMA. Period. No other reason. I hope there is still some voting to do if/when the primaries finally come to Texas. That way I CAN have my say.

May I ask .... who do you support? What candidate fits the tea party mould, in your opinion?


47 posted on 02/09/2012 12:23:15 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: al_c
May I ask .... who do you support? What candidate fits the tea party mould, in your opinion?

Sure.

1. Newt
2. Santorum


If Romney is the nominee, anyone who is actually a conservative, third-party or not.
48 posted on 02/09/2012 12:41:29 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Reverse those and you got my top 2. Seems we agree to an extent. Now let’s get out there and make sure one of these is the GOP winner, shall we?


49 posted on 02/09/2012 12:46:14 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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