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Abandon ship: At least five Senate Democrats now oppose Obama’s new contraception rule
Hotair ^ | 02/09/2012 | Allahpundit

Posted on 02/09/2012 2:01:05 PM PST by SeekAndFind

ABC says Lieberman, Manchin, Casey, and both Nelsons (Bill and Ben) have headed for the lifeboats, but I think that count’s already outdated. According to Fox News’s Chad Pergram, John Kerry also thinks the new rule “needs to be compromised, adjusted.” If all six vote with the GOP caucus to either repeal the rule or expand the conscience exemption, then McConnell starts with 53 votes, but since Scott Brown’s been desperate lately to show he’s as good a Democrat as Elizabeth Warren, in reality it’s probably only 52. Even with pressure mounting on swing-staters like Tester and McCaskill, it’s hard to believe they’ll get to 60. Which means unless The One reverses himself on this, nothing’s likely to happen.

Any reason to believe he might? Yup: According to ABC, some of the most influential members of his cabinet think the rule is a very bad idea.

“What are we doing here?” asked Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, stepping outside his wheelhouse to ask about a rising storm involving the Obama administration and the Catholic Church. “What’s the point?”…

The debate within the White House on this issue was, sources say, heated, and President Obama was legitimately torn. Panetta wasn’t alone in his concerns. For months, Vice President Joe Biden and then-White House chief of staff Bill Daley argued internally against the rule, sources tell ABC News. Biden and Daley didn’t think the rule was right on either the policy or the politics, sources said. Joshua Dubois, head of the Office of Faith Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, also expressed concern…

In the fall, [Planned Parenthood's Cecile] Richards brought in polling indicating that the American people overwhelmingly supported the birth control benefit in health insurance. She also highlighted statistics showing the overwhelming use of birth control.

The Vice President and others argued that this wouldn’t be seen as an issue of contraception – it would be seen as an issue of religious liberty. They questioned the polling of the rule advocates, arguing that it didn’t explain the issue in full, it ignored the question of what religious groups should have to pay for. And they argued that women voters for whom this was an important issue weren’t likely to vote for Mitt Romney, who has drawn a strong anti-abortion line as a presidential candidate, saying he would end federal funding to Planned Parenthood and supporting a “personhood” amendment that defines life as beginning at the moment of fertilization.

We’re in deep, deep trouble when Joe Biden is the voice of reason within the inner circle. Follow the link and see who he was up against on the other side: Planned Parenthood, Sebelius, Barbara Boxer — and David Plouffe, who no doubt was eyeing turnout among young O-bots and women in swing states. Why either of those groups would stay home over a slightly expanded religious-conscience exemption to contraception coverage under ObamaCare, I have no idea. Leftist groups will be too busy this summer painting Romney or Santorum as the new Hitler to agitate against Obama for expanding the exemption; besides, as we know from their changing opinions on Gitmo and drone strikes, they’re willing to cut O a lot of slack when it comes to betraying the cause. In fact, it’s the GOP’s base that desperately needs rallying, not the Democrats’. A PPP poll taken two weeks ago found that there are more Dems who are “very excited” to vote this fall than Republicans, no doubt a byproduct of despair over Romney on the right. If O had quietly granted a robust exemption on contraception to religiously-affiliated groups, he’d probably have had to weather a few weeks of grumbling from the left before the issue faded. Instead he handed the GOP a juicy culture-war issue to energize conservatives and left a flaming bag of shinola on the porch of all the religious liberals who went to bat for O-Care on the assumption that he wouldn’t force contraception coverage down their throats. Oops.

Here’s Marco Rubio on Fox this morning alongside Joe Manchin, whom I forgot in yesterday’s roll call of swing-state Democrats who are nervous about the new rule. He and Rubio are co-sponsoring legislation to repeal it. Like I say, I doubt they’ll have the votes, but the politics of a centrist Democrat joining up with a tea-party senator to challenge them is pure poison for the White House among undecideds.

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: contraception; democrats; senate

1 posted on 02/09/2012 2:01:20 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“We’re in deep, deep trouble when Joe Biden is the voice of reason within the inner circle. “

Hillary could’ve been Obama’s VP and she’d be for the rule.


2 posted on 02/09/2012 2:06:12 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: SeekAndFind

Jon Cary probably wants more “nuance”.


3 posted on 02/09/2012 2:08:40 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: ari-freedom
Oppose ALL of Obamacare!!

You're saying only this little part is wrong and Obama is loving it. You've been conned!!

4 posted on 02/09/2012 2:09:56 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

“What are we doing here?” asked Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, stepping outside his wheelhouse to ask about a rising storm involving the Obama administration and the Catholic Church. “What’s the point?”…

S’matter, Leo, don’t know who your boy is? Idiot.


5 posted on 02/09/2012 2:10:01 PM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: ari-freedom

During the primary, Hillary was endorsed by ‘Emily’s List’...meaning they felt she was even more pro-abort than Hussein.

That would be, until he got Kathleen on his team.


6 posted on 02/09/2012 2:10:49 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The media totally fails to get the point. This is not even about abortion, although that is a side benefit for obama. What it is about is undermining the Faith as a competing source of moral authority against the State. For Obama's dream to come true the Church must be discredited if not destroyed.
7 posted on 02/09/2012 2:10:49 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind

If you need a “conscience” clause, something is wrong. Ya think??


8 posted on 02/09/2012 2:11:37 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind
This will never get out of committee and dirty harry controls what gets to the floor, and they will never get 60 votes to break a filibuster.

So while it will make good talking points, obummer will never have to pull out the veto pen.

If the SCOTUS declares obamacare unconstitutional, this whole issue is moot.

9 posted on 02/09/2012 2:12:46 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: Sacajaweau

“You’re saying only this little part is wrong and Obama is loving it. You’ve been conned!! “

Obamacare screws everyone equally but just one rule makes it Obama against Catholics.


10 posted on 02/09/2012 2:16:50 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: SeekAndFind

Of the five, four of them voted for the health care law. And Manchin would have voted for it too had he been in the senate at the time.

They’re fooling nobody.


11 posted on 02/09/2012 2:18:13 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: SeekAndFind

LMAO. Later these Senators willbe like the Italian ship captain who said he didnt get in the lifeboat , he fell in.


12 posted on 02/09/2012 2:18:17 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Sacajaweau

That’s the whole point as to why the pro-aborts are so vehement about forcing this on everyone.

If there is ANY HINT that abortion has a moral component,
that leads inexorably to the truth that it is murder,
and those that have participated in it have committed murder.

And liberals are “good people”, donchaknow, so they can’t think of themselves as murderers.


13 posted on 02/09/2012 2:19:10 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind
Casey Jr. is only opposed because he is up for reelection this year and there are a huge number of Catholic voters in Pennsylvania.

Otherwise, he would be more than happy to throw his Catholic faith under the bus in order to rubberstamp his bum chum ObaMao.

14 posted on 02/09/2012 2:19:30 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind

It seems to me the President of the United States essentially assumed power greater than the Pope; he unilaterally changed the law of the Church.

It is a breathtaking power grab. Has this been done since Henry VIII? No, Hussein has not kicked out Catholics and seized their property, but he has as a matter of fact, vetoed laws of the Church.

Hussein once again shows he is willing to exercise tyrannical powers.


15 posted on 02/09/2012 2:24:26 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is all about setting a very high bar! Everyone knows that once an entitlement is established, it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to remove without political peril!

Look, the way that Obamacare was written, every President gets to go through and make changes to the insurance requirements and standards from one year to the next.

If Obama says this is covered, the next President says NO, we are removing this, then the people will now feel like they are having “a right removed” by those evil Republicans!

That is why he decided to shoot for the moon! He is hoping to set the bar so high that once established, no one will ever be able to remove it without stumbling politically! PERIOD!


16 posted on 02/09/2012 2:28:16 PM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Sacajaweau
This is one tool to use against Obamacare.

It is too complicated to take on all of Obamacare, in any political strategy.

We have to bring up each part we don't like, separately.

Also, this is a GREAT issue in teaching the Catholic Bishops how naive they were, to give government this much power.

17 posted on 02/09/2012 2:30:51 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: SeekAndFind

They all voted for Obamacare, now they don’t want to be blamed for the results - hypocrites all.


18 posted on 02/09/2012 2:42:40 PM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: SeekAndFind

LOL!~
Manchin is another Webb- ALWAYS votes with the left when it counts, sometimes votes against them when it doesn’t matter.

‘Allahpundit’ is a sniveling fool.

Heck, Manchin probably asked Obama to have Sibelius do this so he could use his fake ‘opposition’ to drum up moderate support.

‘Allahpundit’ is a sniveling fool.


19 posted on 02/09/2012 2:52:09 PM PST by mrsmith (So... how's the Tea Party nominee for your House seat doing?)
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To: hinckley buzzard

‘zackly.


20 posted on 02/09/2012 2:56:15 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: mrsmith

You have to ask, if Obama was torn and so many others
were against it, who was for it. Valery?


21 posted on 02/09/2012 3:00:22 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Casey and McCaskill are two reasons we are stuck with the scourge of obama.


22 posted on 02/09/2012 3:03:30 PM PST by jersey117 (Perry 2012)
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To: tet68

Well, the Dems do this to get the big national-level bucks from the ‘emily list’ types.

Thanks to the media they also get to run a dog and pony show for local candidates ‘opposing’ it (who’ll benefit from that national money BTW). It’s a ‘two-fer’ thanks to the media.

I hate our disgusting media.


23 posted on 02/09/2012 3:12:49 PM PST by mrsmith (So... how's the Tea Party nominee for your House seat doing?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe Obama just listens to women who use contraceptives. It should have occurred to him to ask a Bishop what the Catholic Church reaction would be. Georgetown U. is not the Church. But you do have to wonder what the relationship is between colleges, hospitals and the Bishops as to what is permitted.


24 posted on 02/09/2012 3:16:32 PM PST by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: SeekAndFind

Eugenics.,is a basic tenet of socialism which includes the whole range of the “isms”. The new religions created by Marx, Lennin, and Fascists that mandates its followers practice population control, through abortion or sterilization and of course “mercy killing”


25 posted on 02/09/2012 3:45:11 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a country is let it be run by professors Fredrick the Great)
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To: cotton1706

Yes, probably just posturing on their part. If the House passes a law that overturns Obama’s mandate, Harry Reid won’t allow it to come up for a vote in the Senate. Even if in some unlikely scenario it passed both houses, Obama would veto the law.


26 posted on 02/09/2012 6:04:23 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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