Skip to comments.Marine killed by O.C. sheriff’s deputy had 3 good-conduct medals
Posted on 02/09/2012 6:31:11 PM PST by smokingfrog
The Marine killed by an Orange County sheriff's deputy during a confrontation this week in San Clemente had received medals for his good conduct, the Marine Corps said.
The Marine Corps identified the victim as Sgt. Manuel Loggins Jr., 31, a native of Joliet, Ill. He was assigned to a battalion at Camp Pendleton.
Loggins was fatally shot by the deputy at about 4:30 a.m. Tuesday in a parking lot near San Clemente High School, officials said. The circumstances of the shooting have not yet been explained publicly by the Orange County Sheriff's Department.
Loggins enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1998 and had received three good-conduct medals, a Navy and Marine Corps achievement medal and a Korean defense service medal, the Marine Corps said.
"Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton offers its condolences to the family and mourns the loss of this Marine," a base spokesman said.
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Good Conduct Medal = Alive and Breathing Medal
Do you think the deputy was trying to go JBT on the Marine and the Marine decided he wasn’t going to put up with that crap?
Plus no Court Marshall or Captains Mast.
I meant Office Hours.
It's been a long time!
I always referred to mine as my "Didn't Get Caught" Medal.
Details are sketchy.
Another report says the Marine had his two daughters in the car with him. He was being pulled over for a traffic violation when he drove into a school parking lot and then crashed through a gate. Weird to say the least.
Good Conduct Medal = I Didn't Get Caught Medal
National Defense Service Medal could more accurately be described as the Firewatch/Alive and Breathing medal
That does makes the story hard to assess.
This incident happened Tuesday and the police have released *no* details about it to the media?
14 years in and an E5?
Agree, not a good sign. And this guy had two young kids in the back.
Did the marine have a gun, weapon? Where was he shot, in the back, front?
If no weapon, what provoked the shoot?
Generally if there is ample evidence to support a good shoot, the DA etc would be broadcasting it by now.
Funny no mention of a weapon???
The lack of detail from the OCSD is evidence that this was a bad shoot, and some of the comments on the Patch seem to believe that.
Ping to those on the list.
Thanks for the ping. It doesn’t sound good that the OCSD has nothing at all to say.
We don’t need a reason to shoot any civilian whenever we want, we are above the Law and can execute you on site for any reason we may determine after you are dead, merely questioning us or looking at a Police Officer funny is grounds to use Deadly Force. Don’t believe it, see Kelly Thomas and Doug Zirby, and many, many others.
First the officer is “afraid for his life” now he was “afraid for the daughters”.
The story has changed.
Ping for a further update at #18
The plot thickens..................................
“Due to Loggins’ failure to follow the commands and his irrational behavior, including statements he made, the deputy had a deep concern for the safety of the children,” Amormino said. “In the deputy’s mind, it was unsafe for [Loggins] to drive away with the girls.”
Amormino said he couldn’t disclose what the “irrational” behaviors or statements entailed, but said Loggins didn’t appear to be intoxicated.
When Loggins got back into the Yukon and either started the engine or began trying to drive away, the deputy opened fire, shooting Loggins through the driver side window, which shattered.
Amormino acknowledged that this version of events differed from an earlier account released by the Sheriff’s Department, in which the deputy reportedly opened fire because he feared for his own life.
Shooting at a car with children in it? WTF?
Stranger and stranger.
So the deputy fired to ‘save the children’. Fired through the glass side window. Tinted glass at night precludes his seeing others in the vehicle with no back-light? Pulled in behind Loggins - Lights & siren? If not why not? Loggins returned to the vehicle and reached in before the deputy shot? The vehicle was moving when he shot?
Way too many inconsistencies in this cover-up!
The deputy who shot and killed an unarmed Marine sergeant after a predawn traffic stop said the Marine was acting so "irrationally" that it seemed dangerous to let him drive away with his two daughters, an official said Friday.
So when the Marine -- later identified as Sgt. Manny Loggins Jr. of Camp Pendleton -- climbed back into his GMC Yukon and turned the ignition, the deputy opened fire,...
Ah, so it was just a traffic stop!?! The OCSD story begins to degrade.
What a surprise.
The wheels are coming off here.
This entire event reeks.
It's likely because the Marine had no weapon. Otherwise the local government would have eagerly revealed that to the world on day one.
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