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Marine killed by O.C. sheriff’s deputy had 3 good-conduct medals
LA Times ^ | 9 Feb 2012 | Tony Perry

Posted on 02/09/2012 6:31:11 PM PST by smokingfrog

The Marine killed by an Orange County sheriff's deputy during a confrontation this week in San Clemente had received medals for his good conduct, the Marine Corps said.

The Marine Corps identified the victim as Sgt. Manuel Loggins Jr., 31, a native of Joliet, Ill. He was assigned to a battalion at Camp Pendleton.

Loggins was fatally shot by the deputy at about 4:30 a.m. Tuesday in a parking lot near San Clemente High School, officials said. The circumstances of the shooting have not yet been explained publicly by the Orange County Sheriff's Department.

Loggins enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1998 and had received three good-conduct medals, a Navy and Marine Corps achievement medal and a Korean defense service medal, the Marine Corps said.

"Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton offers its condolences to the family and mourns the loss of this Marine," a base spokesman said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; loggins; mannyloggins; manuelloggins; marine; ocsd; orangecounty; sgtloggins
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1 posted on 02/09/2012 6:31:17 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Good Conduct Medal = Alive and Breathing Medal


2 posted on 02/09/2012 6:42:53 PM PST by JaguarXKE
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To: smokingfrog

Do you think the deputy was trying to go JBT on the Marine and the Marine decided he wasn’t going to put up with that crap?


3 posted on 02/09/2012 6:49:38 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: JaguarXKE
Good Conduct Medal = Alive and Breathing Medal

Plus no Court Marshall or Captains Mast.

4 posted on 02/09/2012 6:52:27 PM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: sonofagun
or Captains Mast

I meant Office Hours.

It's been a long time!

5 posted on 02/09/2012 6:55:52 PM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: JaguarXKE
Good Conduct Medal = Alive and Breathing Medal

I always referred to mine as my "Didn't Get Caught" Medal.

6 posted on 02/09/2012 6:57:49 PM PST by Bob
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Details are sketchy.

Another report says the Marine had his two daughters in the car with him. He was being pulled over for a traffic violation when he drove into a school parking lot and then crashed through a gate. Weird to say the least.


7 posted on 02/09/2012 7:05:12 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: JaguarXKE
Good Conduct Medal = Alive and Breathing Medal

Good Conduct Medal = I Didn't Get Caught Medal

National Defense Service Medal could more accurately be described as the Firewatch/Alive and Breathing medal

8 posted on 02/09/2012 7:41:15 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: smokingfrog
The circumstances of the shooting have not yet been explained publicly by the Orange County Sheriff's Department.

That does makes the story hard to assess.

9 posted on 02/09/2012 7:43:21 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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10 posted on 02/09/2012 8:35:28 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: smokingfrog

This incident happened Tuesday and the police have released *no* details about it to the media?


11 posted on 02/09/2012 8:56:02 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: smokingfrog

14 years in and an E5?


12 posted on 02/09/2012 9:11:01 PM PST by Jumpmaster (Defund the Left!)
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To: Altariel

Agree, not a good sign. And this guy had two young kids in the back.

Did the marine have a gun, weapon? Where was he shot, in the back, front?

If no weapon, what provoked the shoot?

Generally if there is ample evidence to support a good shoot, the DA etc would be broadcasting it by now.


13 posted on 02/09/2012 9:50:46 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: smokingfrog

Funny no mention of a weapon???


14 posted on 02/09/2012 9:51:52 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: smokingfrog; JaguarXKE; Jack Hydrazine; Bob; TigersEye; RedMDer; Altariel; Jumpmaster
More info and details here:

The lack of detail from the OCSD is evidence that this was a bad shoot, and some of the comments on the Patch seem to believe that.

Ping to those on the list.

15 posted on 02/09/2012 9:58:23 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

Thanks for the ping. It doesn’t sound good that the OCSD has nothing at all to say.


16 posted on 02/09/2012 10:19:49 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: dragnet2

We don’t need a reason to shoot any civilian whenever we want, we are above the Law and can execute you on site for any reason we may determine after you are dead, merely questioning us or looking at a Police Officer funny is grounds to use Deadly Force. Don’t believe it, see Kelly Thomas and Doug Zirby, and many, many others.


17 posted on 02/10/2012 5:30:58 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: brityank

http://sanclemente.patch.com/articles/deputy-who-shot-marine-says-loggins-was-irrational-and-children-were-endangered

First the officer is “afraid for his life” now he was “afraid for the daughters”.

The story has changed.


18 posted on 02/10/2012 7:51:30 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel; smokingfrog; JaguarXKE; Jack Hydrazine; Bob; TigersEye; RedMDer; Jumpmaster
Thanks, Altariel.

Ping for a further update at #18

19 posted on 02/10/2012 8:41:01 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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The plot thickens..................................
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“Due to Loggins’ failure to follow the commands and his irrational behavior, including statements he made, the deputy had a deep concern for the safety of the children,” Amormino said. “In the deputy’s mind, it was unsafe for [Loggins] to drive away with the girls.”

Amormino said he couldn’t disclose what the “irrational” behaviors or statements entailed, but said Loggins didn’t appear to be intoxicated.

When Loggins got back into the Yukon and either started the engine or began trying to drive away, the deputy opened fire, shooting Loggins through the driver side window, which shattered.

Amormino acknowledged that this version of events differed from an earlier account released by the Sheriff’s Department, in which the deputy reportedly opened fire because he feared for his own life.

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Shooting at a car with children in it? WTF?


20 posted on 02/10/2012 8:54:53 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Altariel

Stranger and stranger.

So the deputy fired to ‘save the children’. Fired through the glass side window. Tinted glass at night precludes his seeing others in the vehicle with no back-light? Pulled in behind Loggins - Lights & siren? If not why not? Loggins returned to the vehicle and reached in before the deputy shot? The vehicle was moving when he shot?

Way too many inconsistencies in this cover-up!


21 posted on 02/10/2012 8:55:49 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank
Thanks for the ping.

The deputy who shot and killed an unarmed Marine sergeant after a predawn traffic stop said the Marine was acting so "irrationally" that it seemed dangerous to let him drive away with his two daughters, an official said Friday.

So when the Marine -- later identified as Sgt. Manny Loggins Jr. of Camp Pendleton -- climbed back into his GMC Yukon and turned the ignition, the deputy opened fire,...

Ah, so it was just a traffic stop!?! The OCSD story begins to degrade.

22 posted on 02/10/2012 8:58:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: smokingfrog
Amormino acknowledged that this version of events differed from an earlier account released by the Sheriff’s Department, in which the deputy reportedly opened fire because he feared for his own life.

What a surprise.

23 posted on 02/10/2012 10:44:43 PM PST by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: Altariel
First the officer is “afraid for his life” now he was “afraid for the daughters”. The story has changed.

The wheels are coming off here.

This entire event reeks.

24 posted on 02/11/2012 1:17:18 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Sprite518
Funny no mention of a weapon???

It's likely because the Marine had no weapon. Otherwise the local government would have eagerly revealed that to the world on day one.

25 posted on 02/11/2012 1:22:06 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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