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Duke Energy Employees Implicated in Massive Copper Theft ($25 Million)
WKRC ^ | 2/20/2012 | WKRC

Posted on 02/10/2012 4:57:40 AM PST by TSgt

It could be the biggest copper theft in U.S. history and it's apparently been going on here in the Tri-State for years. It involves a massive on-going federal investigation. In a story you'll see only on Local 12, reporter Rich Jaffe adds up the cost of a missing treasure chest of "red gold".

In February of last year, agents from the Internal Revenue Service and the FBI along with police from Cincinnati, Blue Ash and a couple of Northern Kentucky agencies executed federal search warrants at numerous locations around the Tri-State. Among other places they hit were Garden Street Metals, Blue Grass Recycling, Newport Recycling, and what was Right Now Recycling in Blue Ash. "I didn't understand but why they had to pull their guns when they know clearly who we are and what we are here and the kind of search warrant it was, wasn't called for having to draw their guns."

The owner of Garden Street Metals says investigators took almost 30 boxes of files, along with computer hard drives and disks, although to date no charges have been filed against his company. We now know the investigators were looking for information that could connect the scrap yards to a select group of Duke Energy employees who over a period of years allegedly stole as much as $25 million worth of copper from the company. "It was a small group of guys where you had 6 or seven that were on the take, a third of an entire department was stealing millions of dollars."

We agreed not to identify this Duke worker in order to protect his job. He and others told me there had been a lot of speculation in recent years, about how some of their co-workers could afford their lavish lifestyles. The workers involved were employed in the Underground Electric Department of Duke, and as you would expect had supervisors and managers above them. "There's no way that they would have not been aware of all this theft, it's impossible for them not to have known."

What the employees were allegedly stealing was reel after massive reel of copper wire, each one worth s much as $30,000 at a scrap yard. "They should have never been able to steal like they did. This is millions of dollars that went on for years."

Apparently staked out for Duke workers, in December of 2010, according to documents obtained by Local 12, Blue Ash police charged two men, Larry Ratliff and Harold Lee Daugherty with receiving stolen property after they allegedly sold $31,000 worth of Duke copper to Right Now recycling. Daugherty and Ratliff came from a Columbus union pool of electrical workers hired by Banta Electric to do a job for Duke. Local charges against the pair were dropped when the U.S. attorney took over the case. Banta was never charged.

In August of last year members of the same task force, including federal agents and local police descended on this building in rural Campbell County. It was allegedly a storage facility for much of the stolen copper. This was also reportedly the center of a stripping operation where two men were paid to clean the heavy insulation off the stolen wire. "We had no idea that this was all going on over there at all, we had, we were clueless when we found out about this. I didn't like the idea of living across the street from something like that at all."

While it's hard to imagine how something as big as a huge roll of coper could just disappear, people close to this investigation tell me it's as simple as adding and subtracting. The Duke employees would order in say three rolls of copper, but when they took possession of them only two would end up on the job site...and the other one would end up in a place like this. "There's no way you should be able to get by with ordering that much excessive material, a roll of wire is somewhere around $25,000 and we're talking smaller rolls. These guys were stealing roll after roll after roll and there's no way management wouldn't have known."

As Duke prepares for a merger with Progress Energy which will make it the largest utility in the country, officials are also bracing for indictments coming from the Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Kentucky Robert McBride seen here in a different story. What no one except McBride knows is just how far into the company those indictments will reach.

Initially no one at Duke was willing to talk with us on came, however, officials at the company recently changed their minds about that and on Thursday morning, asked their spokeswoman to talk to a limited degree about their side of the investigation. "We learned of criminal activity within our workforce and immediately took action to reach out for law enforcement for assistance. We knew this was something that we'd need their help with and our security department here at duke identified the problem and began that outreach. We 100 percent looked at this looked at what we could do to strengthen internal controls and that's absolutely been done."

Duke officials say as a result of their investigation, they have so far terminated four employees and are leaving the rest of the case and the investigation in the hands of the U.S. Attorney. While Duke has terminated some employees, no one at Duke Energy has been criminally charged. A Justice Department spokesman says no one from the U.S. Attorney's office can comment about an on-going investigation, and there's no word about when the indictments might be handed down. When that happens, we'll let you know.


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I guess the union types were just trying to make a living wage?
1 posted on 02/10/2012 4:57:45 AM PST by TSgt
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To: TSgt

I guess the same goes for the engineers that laid out the jobs and authorized materiel orders.


2 posted on 02/10/2012 5:12:51 AM PST by Roccus
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To: TSgt

Instead of lobbying for Obama’s Cap and Trade legislation on CNBC, perhaps Duke Energy’s CEO should have been watching how much copper was walking out the door of his company.


3 posted on 02/10/2012 5:13:53 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: TSgt

It’s not just Union types, it’s everywhere. Back home, my mom and dad’s telephone service has become irregular because of the damned copper thieves, who local law enforcement can’t seem to catch. It hasn’t dawned on the police that the scrap dealers are the key since they know what’s going on and who’s involved, and are essentially acting as fences for the stolen cable.


4 posted on 02/10/2012 5:17:48 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: TSgt; abb

They are exactly copying the example set by the Duke trustees and administration.


5 posted on 02/10/2012 5:22:28 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: TSgt
These guys were stealing roll after roll after roll and there's no way management wouldn't have known."
6 posted on 02/10/2012 5:27:22 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Here in NJ had crackheads unbolting sections of aluminium
guard rails and selling them.

Cops busted druggie dragging one down shoulder of I 80

Set up sting and started arresting scrap dealers for
receiving stolen property - that stopped it quick


7 posted on 02/10/2012 5:30:30 AM PST by njslim
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To: TSgt

Do you know if OH and KY levy taxes on Duke for every foot of cable reported to be placed as utilities in other states are? If so, I imagine Duke should have some rather large rebates coming.


8 posted on 02/10/2012 5:39:12 AM PST by Roccus
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To: njslim
Have a small rental house. While the County Highway Dept was rerouting the two roads surrounding it we were unable to get in. When we did get in, copper wire and pipes were stolen. They even tried to take the metal bath tub. Guess it was too heavy or obvious.
9 posted on 02/10/2012 5:42:46 AM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Years ago my line crew had to repeatedly rebuild a toll circuit, south of Kansas City, of 106 open wire, #6 copper. SWBT security and the county sheriff could not apprehend the thieves because my foreman was part of the operation. He knew when the entire length of the circuit was free and clear for the taking. Eventually the operation ended when the foreman and his associates began selling new rolls of telephone cable out of the cable yard. The foreman simply charged the cable off as being placed in the ground. I assume he never thought that sending splicers out to work on cable that wasn’t in the ground would trigger any red flags.


10 posted on 02/10/2012 5:50:07 AM PST by em2vn
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To: em2vn

When I read about these situations I wonder where personal integrity went as a cherished value. Many are deteriorating into a third world mentality where everything presents an opportunity...legal or illegal. This mentality undermines a civilized society. These ghouls are psychopathic.


11 posted on 02/10/2012 5:55:57 AM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: em2vn

Anyone who has spent any time in the business realizes that this goes much further up the food chain than just labor. My guess is that management in both the sub(s?) AND Duke are involved.


12 posted on 02/10/2012 5:59:45 AM PST by Roccus
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To: TSgt
Local charges against the pair were dropped when the U.S. attorney took over the case. Banta was never charged.

There's the stinking cherry atop this dog poop sundae.

13 posted on 02/10/2012 6:04:06 AM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: Roccus

I know they put every last capital penny spent into their rate case which is brought before PUCO where they request higher rates.

Thus $25M of CAPEX needs to be removed from recent rate cases and electrical rates reduced.


14 posted on 02/10/2012 6:08:08 AM PST by TSgt (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: TSgt
Heh-heh...that too.

IF, and that's a big if, this is thoroughly looked into, it's gonna open up a really big can of worms.

15 posted on 02/10/2012 6:11:30 AM PST by Roccus
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To: hal ogen; em2vn
[When I read about these situations I wonder where personal integrity went as a cherished value. Many are deteriorating into a third world mentality where everything presents an opportunity...legal or illegal. This mentality undermines a civilized society. These ghouls are psychopathic.]
 
Right On Target, Fire For Effect.
 
In 2004 I was on a jury with a professor of Physics from UC Irvine.  During the course of the trial we had lunch together and he articulated his utter frustration and disgust at the widespread acceptance of sophisticated cheating being perpetrated by his students.

He said they rationalized it as normal.  "Everybody does it" "That's what you have to do to survive".
 
It's the same amoral mentality we see at work in the systemic corruption that is observable within our imploding financial infrastructure - and it is symptomatic verification that Yuri Bezmenov was correct in his prediction, nearly 30 years ago:
 
"It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.

The first stage being "demoralization".

It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
--Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2095202/posts
 
"If you can't get laid at a pride parade, you just haven't lowered your standards enough"

Just the kind of attitude we want for someone whose job it is to verify compliance of software within the banking industry, isn't it?   Yet those are exactly the words, heard with my own ears, uttered by a drunken buffoon in his bank-sponsored tent - less than a year ago.

Buckle up.  It's gonna be a bumpy ride.

16 posted on 02/10/2012 6:59:54 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: TSgt

You would think that when a guy comes in with brand new reels of copper cable date coded in the last 12 months or so, the scrap yard might have some interest in how it was acquired?

It wasn’t like this was some stuff that they found cleaning out grandpa’s barn 60 yr old barn.


17 posted on 02/10/2012 7:08:07 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: GladesGuru

My Embrace Diversity v. 101.1 program won’t load this morning, so I will unload on the Liberalism which is at the core of this copper theft issue.

Duke Power, as a utility company, gets a guaranteed percentage of profit . Were Duke actually market driven, theft on this scale would not be possible. Just one more consequence of allowing government into daily life.


19 posted on 02/10/2012 7:54:22 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: TSgt

Fascinating. Thanks for the post—I’m down in the Blue Ridge Carolinas, and wondering what crookedness Duke is up to...merging with a company called “Progress”? **Shudder!!**


20 posted on 02/10/2012 8:07:26 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Noumenon

Yep. That’s the little buried gem in the entire article.


21 posted on 02/10/2012 8:12:57 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Noumenon

Yep. That’s the little buried gem in the entire article.


22 posted on 02/10/2012 8:16:03 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: LomanBill

Yea. Not to be negative, but...I think it’s going to be a really rocky ride. Where are my F-1 race car seat belts, nomex burn suit...and helmet?


23 posted on 02/10/2012 8:18:58 AM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: TSgt

We used to have a joke in the power plants.

If a construction worker could not double his wages by stealing copper, he was a poor construction worker.

It was something to see the construction workers come in carrying their lunch boxes, then stagger under the weight of the same lunch box at the end of the shift.

The theft of tools and metal is astounding in a power plant! It is also astounding to she how much good metal is thrown in the trash dumpsters.

Some of our people would stay over and go through the trash, pulling out enough metal to have a beer party at the end of the week. These were not scrap metal bins, these were trash going to a landfill.


24 posted on 02/10/2012 8:55:56 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Timber Rattler

***my mom and dad’s telephone service has become irregular because of the damned copper thieves,***

Several years back, some thief stole and cut up a large roll of copper wire. Then he found it was only copper coated steel, which had little value at that time.


25 posted on 02/10/2012 9:09:04 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Roccus

****My guess is that management in both the sub(s?) AND Duke are involved.****

Years ago, the Assistant Manager of the power plant under construction was livid when a pile of marine grade plywood disappeared from the site. He warned he would fire anyone stealing from the plant.

A few weeks later, someone went to his house for some reason, and the assistant manager opened his garage, for just a few seconds. There was a large pile of marine grade plywood stacked in there.

He was never fired but he was a real a$$ hole and quit years later.


26 posted on 02/10/2012 9:15:45 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: nascarnation

***You would think that when a guy comes in with brand new reels of copper cable date coded in the last 12 months or so,***

At our plant, when it was being built, the construction workers would have lunch in the underground manholes. We would watch as a roll of copper ground wire would slowly unroll about eight inches at a time. We knew someone was cutting it into sections to take out in their lunchboxes.

Once our assistant plant manager got into a clean up mode and sold some washers to the scrap company. Our electrical engineer was livid because those were special high dollar washers for the generator and he had to pay a premium to the scrap yard to buy them back.


27 posted on 02/10/2012 9:21:53 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: hal ogen; Ruy Dias de Bivar; TSgt; Noumenon; Lurker
>>nomex burn suit...and helmet?

In Mad Max's world, those items would be accessories for a flamethrower.

Our culture is only as corrupt as We the People allow it to be.



>>We would watch as a roll of copper ground wire would slowly unroll about eight inches at a time.


Watch and DO, what about it?

Thieves in manhole.   See, now in Mad Max's world that's a situation where the flamethrower would be handy.

>> when the U.S. attorney took over the case. Banta was never charged.

"It made me think of what you once told me - "in five years the Corleone family will be completely legitimate." That was seven years ago.
I know...I'm trying darling."
―Kay Adams and Michael Corleon

Fahgedaboudit?

 

 

28 posted on 02/11/2012 6:31:48 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
 
>>At our plant,
Homer Simpson in Nuclear Power Plant Control Room 
29 posted on 02/11/2012 6:41:50 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: em2vn

>>my foreman was part of the operation

 

How many of the following traits were observable in his behavior?

 

Profile of the Sociopath

This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.


  • Glibness and Superficial Charm

  • Manipulative and Conning
    They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

  • Grandiose Sense of Self
    Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

  • Pathological Lying
    Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

  • Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
    A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

  • Shallow Emotions
    When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

  • Incapacity for Love

  • Need for Stimulation
    Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

  • Callousness/Lack of Empathy
    Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

  • Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
    Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

  • Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
    Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

  • Irresponsibility/Unreliability
    Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

  • Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
    Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

  • Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
    Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

  • Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
    Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

Other Related Qualities:

  1. Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
  2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
  3. Authoritarian
  4. Secretive
  5. Paranoid
  6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
  7. Conventional appearance
  8. Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
  9. Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
  10. Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
  11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
  12. Incapable of real human attachment to another
  13. Unable to feel remorse or guilt
  14. Extreme narcissism and grandiose
  15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world


(The above traits are based on the psychopathy checklists of H. Cleckley and R. Hare.)

 

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Anybody else observe that items in the above list are becoming increasingly "normal" in their workplace/profession?

30 posted on 02/11/2012 7:04:54 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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