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Is Peruvian Mummy a Giant Toddler?
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 2-10-2012 | Brian Thomas

Posted on 02/10/2012 8:41:05 AM PST by fishtank

Is Peruvian Mummy a Giant Toddler? by Brian Thomas, M.S. | Feb. 10, 2012

Some say that giant humans are too incredible to have been real and that the Bible's references to them are fiction.

However, many extra-biblical records corroborate the existence of giants, including sober accounts from early explorers like Magellan and ancient texts like the Babylonian Epic of Gilgamesh, the Hebrew Book of Enoch, and the Book of Giants.

Now, a mummy skeleton found in Peru looks like a giant toddler. If that is indeed what it is, then it adds more weight to the idea that giants were real.

Researchers found the mummy near Cuzco, Peru. It is currently housed at the Ritos Andinos Museum, which is located far southeast of Lima. A hole in the mummy's skull indicates that it had a fontanel, which is an area of connective tissue atop a baby's head that later fills in with bone. Like modern babies, the skull is larger than the rest of the body. But the strangest feature is that the skull is 20 inches long, which is larger than normal adult skulls.

Lima anthropologist Pablo Bayabar examined the mummy and told the Chinese news source New Tang Dynasty Television:

Children's heads are proportionally bigger than their bodies. Here we have two points. First, the fontanelle is open, which usually closes at 31 months. And it has molars that usually appears [sic] between approximately 13 and 19 months. So we are looking at a child under two years old with an enormous head.1

If the youngster had fully matured, he would have qualified as a giant. The skeleton has other unique features, including large eye sockets, a unique molar structure, and an unusual shelf on its chin. Ritos Andinos Museum Director Renato Davila said, "It's 20 inches tall, which doesn't coincide with the stereotypes of humans."1 Some anthropologists are reluctant to call it human.2

Evolution maintains that humans evolved from smaller, ape-like ancestors. But according to the Bible, humans were created in the image of God, and men since then have descended from Adam.3 The Bible also teaches that giants existed, further contrasting with the standard evolutionary stereotype of human history.

The book of Numbers says that a handful of Israelites under Moses' leadership reconnoitered the land of Canaan and reported their discoveries:

And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature. And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.4

Since the Bible refers to giants, it stands to reason that other historical records and artifacts would also testify to their existence.5 And a giant toddler mummy appears to be just such an artifact confirming that the history related in Scripture is trustworthy.

References

Giant Mummy Discovered in Peru. NTD Television. Posted on english.ntdtv.com November 19, 2011, accessed January 28, 2012. Milligan, P. Is this an alien skull? Mystery of giant-headed mummy found in Peru. Daily Mail Online. Posted on dailymail.co.uk November 24, 2011, accessed January 30, 2012. Genesis 5:3. Numbers 13:32-33. For example, the 2006 discovery of a pottery shard in Gath (Goliath's home town) and dated from the tenth century B.C. has two inscriptions that use Hebrew-like letters to spell Philistine words. Both are phonetically close to the name "Goliath." See New Finds: Gath Inscription Evidences Philistine Assimilation. 2006. Biblical Archaeology Review. 32: 02.

Image credit: Copyright © RPP Noticias / César Zapata. Adapted for use in accordance with federal copyright (fair use doctrine) law. Usage by ICR does not imply endorsement of copyright holders.

* Mr. Thomas is Science Writer at the Institute for Creation Research.

Article posted on February 10, 2012.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fiction; godsgravesglyphs; icr; ntsa; ohsomysteriouso; peru

1 posted on 02/10/2012 8:41:20 AM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank

I have to put on the tin hat I use when I listen to Ron Paul talk foreign policy for this one.

Looks like the kind of cranial deformity created by different “primitive” (politically incorrect) cultures the world over from the Huns to Meso-Americans.


2 posted on 02/10/2012 8:55:52 AM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: fishtank

Who says they are fiction?


3 posted on 02/10/2012 8:57:46 AM PST by Tigen (I shall raise you one .)
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To: Tigen

I didn’t.

They are real. Primitive people tie boards to the soft skulls of infants to deliberately deform them.

Some nutcase named von Deniken maintains they are from Outer Space.


4 posted on 02/10/2012 9:01:35 AM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: fishtank

Forbidden archaeology.
http://www.mcremo.com/
http://www.forbiddenarcheology.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oGqPc6poS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UhPMzsrZbw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeBfMDJUxSA&feature=related


5 posted on 02/10/2012 9:02:30 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: fishtank

Klinton has a “thing” for Peruvian mummies. I wonder how hot he thinks this one is?


6 posted on 02/10/2012 9:02:43 AM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: Tigen

The article upholds Scriptural truth.

It doesn’t deny that giants were real.


7 posted on 02/10/2012 9:03:21 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Birth defect?


8 posted on 02/10/2012 9:05:52 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: fishtank

12 foot tall skeletons and spears discovered in Utah cave in 1938; archaeologist led there by Indians who said the Spanish also saw them in the cave. Skeletons taken by truck to Berkeley, CA, now hidden from view for 70 years in the basement of the Univ. of California Berkeley Anthopology Building.
cf Oakland Trib article 1980`s.


9 posted on 02/10/2012 9:07:16 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (Giants in Utah? ??? Who knew?)
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To: Lockbar

He has a thing for anything with an aperature in it.


10 posted on 02/10/2012 9:08:19 AM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: fishtank

20 inches tall? Almost 2 years old?

A quick browse of the internet shows that the typical 2 year old is over 30 inches long.

Why is a 20 inch almost 2 year old a big deal?


11 posted on 02/10/2012 9:14:11 AM PST by Brookhaven (Mitt Romney has been consistent since he changed his mind.)
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To: ZULU
Giants either did or didn't exist... and if you have any belief in the Bible you have to at least entertain the idea that giants were a part of the terrestrial landscape (of extraterrestrial origin, i.e. Sons of God cohabiting/fornicating with human women). Or you must believe that the use of the word giants in scripture has other theological meanings. There's more mystery to the notion than fact, to be sure. My belief system includes the notion that fallen angels are more than just spiritual minions throwing darts of lust, lies and lasciviousness at us. To scoff at all that's not plainly visible, may become problematic when all becomes plainly visible...

"And there shall be signs in the sun and in the moon and in the stars, and upon the earth distress of nations with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; men’s hearts failng them for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. They see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. (St. Luke 21: 25-27)

12 posted on 02/10/2012 9:17:30 AM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: bunkerhill7

I’m skeptical of 12 foot humans, simply because we know humans that reach 8 foot have tremendous problems with their backs.

I’m just not sure that the way we’re designed (especially our spines) could support another 4 feet in length), given that we can barely support 8 feet in length.


13 posted on 02/10/2012 9:18:45 AM PST by Brookhaven (Mitt Romney has been consistent since he changed his mind.)
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To: Brookhaven
From the article "the skull is 20 inches long"

Not that I would know anything about large craniums...

14 posted on 02/10/2012 9:23:18 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Brookhaven

I think they were talking about the head alone, however it is measured, perhaps from the chin to the top of the head...


15 posted on 02/10/2012 9:23:51 AM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Brookhaven

But the strangest feature is that the skull is 20 inches long, which is larger than normal adult skulls.


16 posted on 02/10/2012 9:26:41 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (NOT VOTING gets 0bamao re-elected.)
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To: fishtank

Some genetics went wrong. It happens.


17 posted on 02/10/2012 9:33:18 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Not uncommon for some groups to deform skulls by the application of boards or wraps. As far as what they're calling a fontanelle, it could also be evidence of trepanning, which was practiced with some regularity by the Incas. This is just more typical BS from creationists posing as scientists...

18 posted on 02/10/2012 9:35:46 AM PST by stormer
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To: Brookhaven

I read this Trib article myself in 1980`s and went to the UC Berkeley Anthroplogy Bldg. basement to which everyone is barred and confirmed with Assoc. Prof. that indeed there are 12 ft skeletons there.
Other ref`s to this are in anthroplogy journals of that time..


19 posted on 02/10/2012 9:40:55 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (Giants in Utah? ??? Who knew?)
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To: bunkerhill7
Megatherium - fairly common in caves in the southwest, and to the ignorant, mistakable for a giant...


20 posted on 02/10/2012 9:41:21 AM PST by stormer
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To: ZULU

Ha, ha, true, but in this case look at the upper and lower jaw.


21 posted on 02/10/2012 9:58:53 AM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: Brookhaven

20 inches is a typical length for newborns so I certainly concur with your thought.


22 posted on 02/10/2012 10:07:04 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: dps.inspect

I thinkl that is a very difficult to understand part of scripture. I don’t know Hebrew. Part of the solution is find out exactly WHAT Hebrew word was used and find out what precise meanings it had.

There WERE “giants” in the earth. Cro-Magnon Man was 6’ tall and probably was mainly a meat-eater. Agriculturalists and pastoralists generally are smaller physically than hunter type people. Even more smaller are old society urban dwellers who oftne lived in squalid quarters, ate poor meals and had bad hygeine.

Read about the first Europeans impression of native American Indians. They often referred to them as “giants”.

On the other hand the word may have a deeper meaning than we can fathom.

The Sons of God and the Daughters of men passage is also very strange.

See:

http://www.gotquestions.org/sons-of-God.html


23 posted on 02/10/2012 10:26:15 AM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: fishtank

Credibility generally comes down to what we are calling giants. Ten feet, maybe even 12 feet or so doesn’t stretch my skepticism out of shape. It’s when people start talking about giants who were twenty or thirty feet tall that causes me to turn the channel or close the book. ...There have been a great many skulls shaped like that found in South America and elsewhere.


24 posted on 02/10/2012 10:38:45 AM PST by pallis
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To: fishtank

Shaquille O’Neal “Shaq” stands 7 ft 1 in (2.16 m) tall and weighs about 325 pounds (147 kg). If I was an explorer and saw him...I would say he was a giant of a man.
Robert Wadlow - He reached 8’ 11.1” (272 cm) in height and 490 pounds (222.26 kg) in weight. Thats big!
Bao Xishun, born in Inner Mongolia, measured at 2.36 meters (7 ft 8.95 in) tall
Leonid Stadnyk is said to be 2.54 m (8 ft 4 in) and weigh 200 kg

And then there is the poor kid Brenden Adams - was 7’ 4” at age 12. He was 4 1/2 feet tall as a 5 year old! http://slanchreport.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/75-middle-schooler-is-a-big-target-on-the-football-field/

So could there have been a bunch of people whose had a genetic tendancy for active pitutary glands or whatever and be called giants! Yes, no doubt about it.


25 posted on 02/10/2012 11:11:55 AM PST by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: An American!


poor kid...struggling to fit in...
Brendan Adams is only 14, and he’s already 7 foot 5 inches — making him the world’s tallest teen, according to Guinness World Records. He’s always towered over his classmates, and now he’s finally gotten medical clearance to join them on the football field. Brendan, who lives near Seattle, has a body full of tumors, had his spleen removed, teeth problems, bad arthritis, and a heart arrhythmia, so it’s been a struggle to get there.
26 posted on 02/10/2012 11:21:16 AM PST by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
File this one under "Oh So Mysteriouso", iow, please don't think I take this too seriously. :')

I didn't add the keyword, but don't mind it this once. The source is the ICR, which is a /joke alert on a good day.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


27 posted on 02/10/2012 3:34:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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Cyclops Myth Spurred by "One-Eyed" Fossils?
by Hillary Mayell
National Geographic News
February 5, 2003
The tusk, several teeth, and some bones of a Deinotherium giganteum, which, loosely translated means really huge terrible beast, have been found on the Greek island Crete. A distant relative to today's elephants, the giant mammal stood 15 feet (4.6 meters) tall at the shoulder, and had tusks that were 4.5 feet (1.3 meters) long. It was one of the largest mammals ever to walk the face of the Earth... To paleontologists today, the large hole in the center of the skull suggests a pronounced trunk. To the ancient Greeks, Deinotherium skulls could well be the foundation for their tales of the fearsome one-eyed Cyclops... A cousin to the elephant, deinotheres roamed Europe, Asia, and Africa during the Miocene (23 to 5 million years ago) and Pliocene (5 to 1.8 million years ago) eras before becoming extinct. Finding the remains on Crete suggests the mammal moved around larger areas of Europe than previously believed, Fassoulas said... He suggests that the animals reached Crete from Turkey, swimming and island hopping across the southern Aegean Sea during periods when sea levels were lower. Many herbivores, including the elephants of today, are exceptionally strong swimmers.
The Histories (Book II)
by Herodotus
tr by G Rawlinson
"I went once to a certain place in Arabia, almost exactly opposite the city of Buto, to make inquiries concerning the winged serpents. On my arrival I saw the back-bones and ribs of serpents in such numbers as it is impossible to describe: of the ribs there were a multitude of heaps, some great, some small, some middle-sized. The place where the bones lie is at the entrance of a narrow gorge between steep mountains, which there open upon a spacious plain communicating with the great plain of Egypt. The story goes that with the spring the winged snakes come flying from Arabia towards Egypt, but are met in this gorge by the birds called ibises, who forbid their entrance and destroy them all. The Arabians assert, and the Egyptians also admit, that it is on account of the service thus rendered that the Egyptians hold the ibis in so much reverence."
In the Selincourt translation, the note for this passage is that no one has any idea what Herodotus describes.

The First Fossil Hunters The First Fossil Hunters
by Adrienne Mayor
foreword by Peter Dodson


28 posted on 02/10/2012 3:51:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: fishtank

Excellent book on the subject, “Noah Primeval” by Godawa.
Fiction based on the limited truth/facts of the Bible.
Would make an great script movie.


29 posted on 02/10/2012 9:23:08 PM PST by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever!)
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To: fishtank

Even with overly tall people, the head is not that far out of proportion to the size of the body at a young age.

What about the body measurements?


30 posted on 02/11/2012 5:31:16 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: fishtank

According to some accounts, early settlers when building new villages sometimes accidentally dug up grave sites of “indians” who were extremely tall - 7-8 feet.

When he heard about these finds, James Smithson who was married to and Indian, began gathering these finds up and taking them back to D.C. There, he stored them in the basement of the museum which is now called the Smithsonian ... where thay remain unseen and uncatalogued.

Smithson had a reason for this action which I do not remember, but I believe had something to do with politics and Indian lore.

Very tall indians today are not that uncommon, I was told by an Indian I knew.


31 posted on 02/11/2012 5:43:32 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

From Buffalo Bill Cody’s autobiography:

“While we were in the sandhills, scouting the Niobrara country, the
Pawnee Indians brought into camp some very large bones, one of which
the surgeon of the expedition pronounced to be the thigh bone of a
human being. The Indians said the bones were those of a race of people
who long ago had lived in that country. They said these people were
three times the size of a man of the present day, that they were so
swift and strong that they could run by the side of a buffalo, and,
taking the animal in one arm, could tear off a leg and eat it as they
ran.

These giants, said the Indians, denied the existence of a Great Spirit.
When they heard the thunder or saw the lightning, they laughed and
declared that they were greater than either. This so displeased the
Great Spirit that he caused a deluge. The water rose higher and higher
till it drove these proud giants from the low grounds to the hills and
thence to the mountains. At last even the mountaintops were submerged
and the mammoth men were drowned.

After the flood subsided, the Great Spirit came to the conclusion that
he had made men too large and powerful. He therefore corrected his
mistake by creating a race of the size and strength of the men of the
present day. This is the reason, the Indians told us, that the man of
modern times is small and not like the giants of old. The story has
been handed down among the Pawnees for generations, but what is its
origin no man can say.”

http://www.fullbooks.com/An-Autobiography-of-Buffalo-Bill-Colonel-W-F3.html


32 posted on 02/11/2012 6:25:01 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: fishtank

When these giant babies were born to normal human women, it killed them at birth.


33 posted on 02/11/2012 6:58:40 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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bookmark to read later


34 posted on 02/11/2012 7:06:55 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: ZULU
"The Sons of God and the Daughters of men passage is also very strange."

Matthew 24:37 - "As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man."

35 posted on 02/11/2012 7:12:30 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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